What about Cannonlake then? It will surely be much better! Stop playing the waiting game and get stuff when you need it, unless there's an imminent superior product releasing the day after.
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What about Cannonlake then? It will surely be much better! Stop playing the waiting game and get stuff when you need it, unless there's an imminent superior product releasing the day after.
I know these comments are jokes but they are crap. Of course there's always going to be something faster or better. But that doesn't mean it's never worth the wait. Like now, Skylake is worth the wait for me because there is a possible redesign, new colors,... It's a different kind of refresh than Haswell vs Broadwell was.
Yeah, but as she/he is blabbering about Kaby Lake in a thread about Skylake (which haven't seen a full roll out yet) I find it funny to start thinking about waiting for Kaby Lake. This person obviously don't have a real need to get a new laptop at this moment and can surely hold off until he or she needs a laptop.
Nobody knows if there will be a redesign (it is all speculation so far) and yes it is a new architecture... but like everyone is screaming to have a USB type C, while i do not see the point, we still have very few peripherals with that connector, and it will take 2-3 years before it is mainstream anyway, and you'll likely change laptop far sooner (if you use it for work) as it 'll repay itself.
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Looking at the Thunderbolt port of my MBA‘12, I have to admit you are probably right.
Also they will not do a redesign just to include a USB-C port. There has to be more to gain for them, like new enclosure material or a new display technology etc.
On the other hand, a new Macbook Pro with USB-C together with a new retina (5K?) monitor with an integrated GPU would be kind of cool and very "Pro" worthy. Could an updated MB with skylake drive a retina monitor if it had its own GPU?
Lol are you guys serious? I asked the question because certain refreshes DO have a bigger emphasis on graphics and Kaby Lake is rumored to be an entirely new generation of graphics technology instead of higher clock speeds and cores like previous improvements. Get over yourselves.
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Just like Skylake was / is supposed to be a giant leap because of DDR4.
It is all marketing to sell my friend,once is the faster CPU clock speed, the other is the support for a connector, the other is a memory improvement, and another will be graphics, then again we start with power managment. and on and on and on.
At the end of the day gains have always (well at least in the last decade) been very small, a core duo 2 with good amount of ram and a decent ssd can still smoke!!
Imagine if intel was like if their real marketing was telling the truth.
"We got a wopping 5% increased performance, and since nobody will update for 5% we also immplement a new super duper 8% battery life improvement it is 30 % faster than a 2005 cpu and consume 30% less, and you can still open Microsoft word!!"
There will always be something next, and it will always concentrate on something valuable, otherwise they would not sell.
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If I'm only buying a computer once every 5 years I want to make sure it has optimal graphics performance. Sorry, but those who didn't wait a year and bought the MacBooks with HD 4000 GPU's as opposed to Iris graphics that released a year later got ripped and now they are stuck with GPU architecture that was old the day they bought it. Those who bought Iris 5100 computers vs those who bought the 6100 got nowhere near as screwed over.
When next gen comes out you'll be saying the same thing about 5100 and 6100
I do not consider myself "screwed" if a new generation comes out, when I buy a computer it does what i buy it for, and it keeps doing it when i get the new one, sure the new one is faster, but then back to point one!
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No you won't because if a new generation of graphics comes out with Kaby Lake that means those with the 5100 got the best bang for their buck thus proving my point. Those that care about graphics should always buy when a new graphics architecture is introduced because it'll be a big leap (as we saw going from HD4000 to Iris) vs a small step (Iris 5100 to 6100).When next gen comes out you'll be saying the same thing about 5100 and 6100
I do not consider myself "screwed" if a new generation comes out, when I buy a computer it does what i buy it for.... and it keeps doing it when i get the new one...sure the new one is faster...but then ....repeat!
Quoting https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/9400m-vs-hd-4000-vs-hd-5100.1655126/
The HD 4000 is a huge improvement being multiple times faster than a 9400M.
The 5100 is a bit of an odd one. It can be quite a lot faster but it can also be only just as fast as a HD 4600. Which doesn't put it too much ahead of the HD 4000. The problem is the HD 5100 only shows up in in 28W ULV chips and as soon as there is a significant CPU demand the GPU side has not that big of a power budget to work with and is also somewhat limited by the memory bandwidth in many situations. It is good for 28W but compared to 35/45W chips it isn't as good as the name might imply.
In some benchmarks it can pull ahead if they put load almost entirely on the gpu. In games it barely is any better than a HD 4000 (from the higher TDP chips).
See in 2013 (ALMOST 3 years ago) the performance difference was not considered that big.
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By your logic anyone who has a 6100 iris today will be screwed when the new that ever Kaby Lake video card will have.
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When the next chip comes out (probably 2 years since Broadwell and Skylake are still rolling out) i will have enjoyed a computer for 2 years and made enought money to buy a new one.... while you'll have waited without a computer for 2 years...
As someone said... if you need a computer buy when you need, if you are waqiting for the next gen. fine do so but people who bought are not screwed, they enjoyed their computer all along!!
Also i hope you have something amazing to do requiring all that power!
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Oh god, you know your argument is falling apart when you have to quote another MacRumors member for an analogy that involves NVIDIA graphics. It's pretty clear what's going on here, you're trying to justify a purchase you haven't even made yet.
Wrong again, I do not have to justify nothing to anybody, i am not 12 and I just purchased a refurb 2015 13 inchers, and loving it, seems the one without argument is yourself, enjoy the wait!
When you care to read more than the NVIDIA part you might understand a little bit more.
You should read along, since you have lot of time in your hands waiting for the next gen
More than hello09381... goodbye09381
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Lol, I read the rest of it and it all falls flat on the face of actual benchmarks and performance. Don't bother responding any more because I don't need to read any more 'arguments' from a man that can't even form a proper sentence without adding "...".Wrong again, just purchased a refurb 2015 13 inchers, and loving it...seems the one without argument is yourself, enjoy the wait!
When you care to read more than the NVIDIA part you might understand a little bit more......read read along...you have time in your hands waiting for the next gen
Oh so your real agenda is exposed, you're trying to write off future improvements because you just dunked down cash on a current gen model. Got it.
Also your name is fitting, one out of date processor and another out of date selling service.
Well about the ... we can agree, but that is the only point and I tried to fix it, hopefully making it more right than wrong
I am not writing off anything, but at the same time I am not making obsolete everything we have now.
My name made a lot more sense when I registered, since I was selling Macs online back then, it might be obsolete tecnology now, but I keep it for nostalgia, is that a bad thing too?
I am not writing off anything, but at the same time I am not making obsolete everything we have now.
My name made a lot more sense when I registered, since I was selling Macs online back then, it might be obsolete tecnology now, but I keep it for nostalgia, is that a bad thing too?
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Pulled the trigger and got 13" MBP. Actually I don`t even care about Skylake, I just would have liked to have USB-C/TB3, but as others pointed out, it will be another two years, until USB-C really kicks off. And by that time, I will buy a new one.
I mean, who could say no, to a Baseline 13 rMBP, including a JBL Flip 3 for 1180€? (For reference, in Germany the MBP is 1450€ and the JBL 130€)
I mean, who could say no, to a Baseline 13 rMBP, including a JBL Flip 3 for 1180€? (For reference, in Germany the MBP is 1450€ and the JBL 130€)
Congratulations, nice deal.
Nice to see someone get off the fence. There's always something new just around the corner, you can't wait forever.
The USB-TB3 thing is tricky, as you say it could be years before it really kicks off. In the meantime adaptors to be able to use it with existing kit will probably be expensive, at least to begin with.
i'm starting to get tempted by the Dell XPS15 2016. Apple should have got rid of that space-wasting display bezel a while ago - I just doesn't make sense. I still trust apple more to make a well designed laptop that really lasts though.
If you two keep winking at each other anymore you'll give each other epileptic fits.Well about the ... we can agree, but that is the only point and I tried to fix it, hopefully making it more right than wrong
I am not writing off anything, but at the same time I am not making obsolete everything we have now.
My name made a lot more sense when I registered, since I was selling Macs online back then, it might be obsolete tecnology now, but I keep it for nostalgia, is that a bad thing too?
So just wait for Skylake.
Since we still have no clues about it for the rMBP, I don't see the point for waiting and wondering about a new yet-to-be-announced CPU.
Of course is going to be better than Skylake, but you're going to wait forever.
I'm tempted to buy it as well.
Apple could've easily went with non-IRIS pro and release this month or the next, but it's not happening.
Couldn't care less about redesign... it's the thought that a space gray could come out that irks me lol.
Kaby Lake is coming out in 2016. Far from forever. Also it's not a matter of just being better, it's about how much better and if they are introducing a new graphics architecture it'll be more than usual.
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