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I'll add more reliability data:

I have 3 MBPs, all with discrete GPUs, and they all still work. The oldest is from 2008, the newest is from 2013. Between the three of them, they have only needed one repair in 7 years. Granted, the repair was for a manufacturing defect (mysterious battery problem).

I have purchased at least 5 hard drives from Apple (inside computers) and none of them have failed yet, knock on wood. That is far better than my overall track record with hard drives.

Using data from myself, my immediate family, and my very close friends, Apple computers are among the most reliable. Lenovo laptops from the golden years are also top-notch and popular with this cohort of people. Dell is awful, so many broken Dells. I also owned one Toshiba and one Sony laptop, neither broke.
 
bollweevil said:
I'll add more reliability data:

I have 3 MBPs, all with discrete GPUs, and they all still work. The oldest is from 2008, the newest is from 2013. Between the three of them, they have only needed one repair in 7 years. Granted, the repair was for a manufacturing defect (mysterious battery problem).

I have purchased at least 5 hard drives from Apple (inside computers) and none of them have failed yet, knock on wood. That is far better than my overall track record with hard drives.

Using data from myself, my immediate family, and my very close friends, Apple computers are among the most reliable. Lenovo laptops from the golden years are also top-notch and popular with this cohort of people. Dell is awful, so many broken Dells. I also owned one Toshiba and one Sony laptop, neither broke.
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You are my twin! 3 mbp's, ranging late 2008 - late 2013. All 3 still running (some passed off to family). The first two had swollen batteries around the 3 year mark, both of which Apple replaced for free (2011 machine was even just out of warrantee)

Overall I'm pleased and tend to update every 3 years as I do a lot of cpu intensive work and I like to keep relatively up to date processor wise. Looking forwards to what 2016 brings, although my current machine has yet to feel at all dated next to current offerings.
 
stevemiller said:
You are my twin! 3 mbp's, ranging late 2008 - late 2013. All 3 still running (some passed off to family). The first two had swollen batteries around the 3 year mark, both of which Apple replaced for free (2011 machine was even just out of warrantee)

Overall I'm pleased and tend to update every 3 years as I do a lot of cpu intensive work and I like to keep relatively up to date processor wise. Looking forwards to what 2016 brings, although my current machine has yet to feel at all dated next to current offerings.
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Well call it luck in your case or badluck in mine but my 2011 15" 6750M is on it's fourth logicboard at the moment. I for one can't wait for the moment that Intel releases the Sky Lake series with a more powerfull IGP than the current Iris Pro series.
 
bollweevil said:
I'll add more reliability data:

I have 3 MBPs, all with discrete GPUs, and they all still work. The oldest is from 2008, the newest is from 2013. Between the three of them, they have only needed one repair in 7 years. Granted, the repair was for a manufacturing defect (mysterious battery problem).

I have purchased at least 5 hard drives from Apple (inside computers) and none of them have failed yet, knock on wood. That is far better than my overall track record with hard drives.

Using data from myself, my immediate family, and my very close friends, Apple computers are among the most reliable. Lenovo laptops from the golden years are also top-notch and popular with this cohort of people. Dell is awful, so many broken Dells. I also owned one Toshiba and one Sony laptop, neither broke.
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What kind of stress did you put them through? (Gaming, 3d-rendering, video conversion?)
And at what kind of ambient temperatures?

I have 1 MBP with dGPU, failed after 1.5 years of use. I partly (though not entirely) blame Apple for it: fans run too slow. Machine died during summer time, ambient temperatures around 30 degrees (most people in the UK don't have aircon) whilst I was doing a lot of video and graphics work. And I partly blame myself for it for not installing smcfancontrol.
 
Patrick-Photo said:
Well call it luck in your case or badluck in mine but my 2011 15" 6750M is on it's fourth logicboard at the moment. I for one can't wait for the moment that Intel releases the Sky Lake series with a more powerfull IGP than the current Iris Pro series.
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I do consider my 2011 to be living on borrowed time :p
 
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Kaby Lake was just leaked for 2017, with Cannonlake considered for 2H/2017 or 2018. And Skylake-S with Iris Pro 580 (SKL S 4+4e) is leaked for Q4/2015... Let's hope this is no indicator for the Skylake-H with Iris Pro release.
Looks like we're going to have a long Skylake period, just like the long Haswell-era...
See: http://wccftech.com/intels-10nm-can...ies-q3-2016-kaby-lakes-desktop-chips-1h-2017/
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Well if we're seeing the first Kaby Lake in Q3 2016 (not H of course), then we're definitely seeing Skylake H in Q1 2016.
 
Just popping by this thread to say hi to my fellow Skylake waiters... Hi!

I've got the money set aside. I'm just waiting for Apple to take my money! I am going to get 1TB of flash this time, and I REALLY hope they let us go up to 32GB of RAM, but if not, I'll settle for 16GB again. My current rMBP is over 3 years old, and it still has 16GB on it - would be nice to move up.

And I know the chance of these machines using mobile Xeon parts is low, but MAN that would be slick... Can't wait to replace my 15" rMBP!
 
Beliblis said:
What kind of stress did you put them through? (Gaming, 3d-rendering, video conversion?)
And at what kind of ambient temperatures?

I have 1 MBP with dGPU, failed after 1.5 years of use. I partly (though not entirely) blame Apple for it: fans run too slow. Machine died during summer time, ambient temperatures around 30 degrees (most people in the UK don't have aircon) whilst I was doing a lot of video and graphics work. And I partly blame myself for it for not installing smcfancontrol.
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I don't really care too much about Intel's tick-tock lifecycle for my laptop. I find the difference between a tick and a tock (or two or three for that matter) is almost unnoticeable. I work in HPC (I care about what tick and what tock is on my cluster...) and I wouldn't do much CPU-intensive stuff on a laptop anyway. But it is nice to have a very long runway to land on when you're doing a big compile or multitasking several compiles when you're under pressure. This is very rare for me...

What I would be interested to see from Intel is:
- lower power consumption (like ~20% so I can get 10 or 12 hours of mild dev work done on a single charge!)
- integrated graphics (unified CPU/GPU that simplifies software development and helps power consumption too...)

If I want a bleeding edge overclocked CPU with all the tech-geek stuff wrapped in a carbon fibre platinum box (or whatever), I'll join an overclockers forum, buy a tower and spend $1000s on a water cooler system. A great way to waste all your productive time and miss out on opportunities.
 
spaceballl said:
Just popping by this thread to say hi to my fellow Skylake waiters... Hi!
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Hi Spaceball. You'll be happy with the Skylake rMBP for sure. So long as they keep MagSafe I'm sure it'll be great. Although dumping it from the MacBook is a bit of a worrying sign! A new Space Grey colour should be good as well. The current silver is getting a bit passé.

I'm a bit pissed that I'll miss out as I just bought the current gen. But here's what happened: I had an Early 2013 rMBP but it got an SSD issue and refused to boot or reinstall. Fortunately I managed to recover my data. So I took it in to get fixed and that took a week, then when I got it back I'd almost finished setting it up and reinstalling everything only to discover the HDMI didn't work. So back it went for another logic board replacement and another week of servicing!

I depend on my laptop for work and this was a huge problem. I lost confidence in that laptop and decided to sell it. In the end I didn't get that much despite it being a high end 15" model with 768 Gb SSD because it didn't have AppleCare (was 2.5 years old) and had some cosmetic damage.

So I had to spend big on buying the current maxed out retina, but I managed to talk the Apple shop down a bit on price (they knocked a couple of hundred off) because my employer is a business customer of theirs and I use it at work. Plus I got it before a currency correction here in Australia so I paid a lot less than it costs now; about AU $700 less than the new retai! (AU $4919).

Adding to that I plan to get the tax back (10% or $420) by taking a short flight to NZ or somewhere within 60 days of purchase. So all up I'll pay about $2,400 or so to upgrade, but I do get a bigger and much faster SSD among a few other things. It's still a big chunk of money and I wouldn't have done so now if I could wait but after the issues and pain I had with my old laptop I'm happy I've got something working reliably.

Next time I want to choose the timing of an upgrade to Skylake!
 
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shareef777 said:
Still waiting. Getting more difficult as my 2012 rMBP's battery only lasts about 3 hours now.What a coincidence, immediately after my extended AppleCare warranty ended my battery takes a dive :-/

http://ccbonline.coconut-flavour.com/index.php?bid=fb68ccf8c07c59ee3190a4515d43d38d
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I see you have 645 cycles (as of that chart). The MacBook batteries are supposed to last 1000 cycles. In that chart you can see the general trend of declining capacity but no major drop until about 1040 cycles. It looks as though the batteries become a bit variable after 600-650 cycles up to about 1000 so you might be experiencing a first blip or bit of variability in your capacity.

If it bothers you and you want to get back to the original starting capacity I guess you have to buy one from Apple.

Note that from experience Apple will tell you that the battery passes its tests and is fine until it's well and truly dead i.e. near or passed the 1000 cycle point, not charging or holding any meaningful capacity, or exhibiting random shutdowns. You'd have to request a replacement anyway and they may even refuse at first. If you're persistent and are willing to pay they probably will, though replacing early does increase your environmental footprint so I can understand them discouraging it.

They certainly won't replace a battery early free of charge unless it's got severe problems which yours doesn't appear to have based on those charts.
 
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Can you guys please explain to me why we are "Waiting" for Skylake, a.k.a. 6th Generation? I just looked on the Dell site, and they are selling the XPS-15 with the 6th Gen processor.

So, what's up?
 
marc55 said:
Can you guys please explain to me why we are "Waiting" for Skylake, a.k.a. 6th Generation? I just looked on the Dell site, and they are selling the XPS-15 with the 6th Gen processor.

So, what's up?
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Apple usually have two models, one with dGPU and one with only iGPU. The processor dell uses has a Intel® HD Graphics 530, it is the small iGPU, apple usually uses the best iGPU's which is not out yet.
 
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Apple usually have two models, one with dGPU and one with only iGPU. The processor dell uses has a Intel® HD Graphics 530, it is the small iGPU, apple usually uses the best iGPU's which is not out yet.
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Got it; thanks!
 
Still unsure why they don't drop-in the appropriate Broadwell processors that are available at the same price-point.
 
simonmet said:
I see you have 645 cycles (as of that chart). The MacBook batteries are supposed to last 1000 cycles. In that chart you can see the general trend of declining capacity but no major drop until about 1040 cycles. It looks as though the batteries become a bit variable after 600-650 cycles up to about 1000 so you might be experiencing a first blip or bit of variability in your capacity.

If it bothers you and you want to get back to the original starting capacity I guess you have to buy one from Apple.

Note that from experience Apple will tell you that the battery passes its tests and is fine until it's well and truly dead i.e. near or passed the 1000 cycle point, not charging or holding any meaningful capacity, or exhibiting random shutdowns. You'd have to request a replacement anyway and they may even refuse at first. If you're persistent and are willing to pay they probably will, though replacing early does increase your environmental footprint so I can understand them discouraging it.

They certainly won't replace a battery early free of charge unless it's got severe problems which yours doesn't appear to have based on those charts.
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To be honest, I've already made up my mind to live with it till Skylake ones are out. I'm not going to spend $200 on my current machine, when I can put that money towards the new laptop.
 
Hello, I've been looking at this forum for what feels like eternity, so i just thought i'd add my experience. I've need an upgrade from my 2007 macbook for about 4 years haha but it only really became a big issue in the last year when i started to need to do more work out of the office, and since the summer have been waiting for the updated MBP. After initially being very disappointed with the May upgrade for the 15" my mind was made up to wait for skylake, however with my need increasing and nothing on the horizon i got a base 2015 15" MBP on the refurb store. I have to say i'm blown away, these things are incredible (upgrading from a 8 year old macbook im sure that was always going to be the case). Might i suffer a twinge of regret next year when skylake is launched ? possibly but the extra 6 months of waiting would just have been too much.
 
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Hello, I've been looking at this forum for what feels like eternity, so i just thought i'd add my experience. I've need an upgrade from my 2007 macbook for about 4 years haha but it only really became a big issue in the last year when i started to need to do more work out of the office, and since the summer have been waiting for the updated MBP. After initially being very disappointed with the May upgrade for the 15" my mind was made up to wait for skylake, however with my need increasing and nothing on the horizon i got a base 2015 15" MBP on the refurb store. I have to say i'm blown away, these things are incredible (upgrading from a 8 year old macbook im sure that was always going to be the case). Might i suffer a twinge of regret next year when skylake is launched ? possibly but the extra 6 months of waiting would just have been too much.
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I'm glad you're happy with your purchase! That's all that matters.
 
Decided to buy the 2015 rMBP too. The prices in Australia were shooting up so I had the chance to buy one at the old price plus another 10% discount. Overall, I saved around ~$600. I really wanted the Surface Book but I couldn't justify the $900 more for roughly the same specs and a touchscreen/tablet.

Even if the Skylake Macs are much better, I'll be able to sell this one for decent price and maybe even make a small profit!
 
marc55 said:
Got it; thanks!
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My Surface Book with Skylake and Discreet Graphics and Skylake should ship tomorrow or Thursday. Been getting used to Windows 10 (Parallels) on my maxed out early 2015 rMBP. If all goes as planned MB will be on Ebay after I take it in for new screen / Lid under warranty replacement (it has the same spotting my 2013 had) That will sadly end that chapter in my life...
 
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