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Brad9893 said:
He was opposed to styluses being used a primary input method (as stated during the original iPhone intro at Macworld 2007), but I don't think he was opposed to styluses in general because they have their uses, especially for designers.
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Actually Steve Jobs hated the stylus full stop and claimed any device that uses a stylus has failed:

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koyoot said:
Polaris 11 GPU has 16 CU's(1024 GCN cores, and more than 2 TFLOPs of compute power). The core clocks are remaining to be confirmed.
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Eh? That's a third of the power the next Xbox Scorpio games console will have, hardly cutting edge design is it?
 
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apolloa said:
Eh? That's a third of the power the next Xbox Scorpio games console will have, hardly cutting edge design is it?
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Which will come in the end of 2017 but game requiements surely will go higher after ps4neo and xbox scorpio debut
 
apolloa said:
Eh? That's a third of the power the next Xbox Scorpio games console will have, hardly cutting edge design is it?
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I was talking about that 35W GPU that is mentioned higher than your post.

P.S. Steve meant that if you need a stylus for your device to be usable - you already failed.
 
WRONG said:
Looks like this new is going unnoticed, but it's really interesting.
For those expert: any chance we could see Optane in the next MBP?
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« "This will be great for notebook products," Intel Senior Vice President Rob Cooke said during a presentation at the conference. »

Source: http://www.computerworld.com/articl...p-for-optane-ssds-with-1000x-performance.html

WRONG said:
If the next MBP will sport Polaris, TB3, Skylake HQ, terraced batteries, a better display and Octane technology...
well, that's going to be really a monster!
Please Apple, make it happen.
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Agreed! It seems they are getting the right window of opportunity in order to integrate all the new cutting edge new tech going out in the wild soon. The question of cost remains open however...3DXP memory is going to cost a small fortune!
 
snc said:
Which will come in the end of 2017 but game requiements surely will go higher after ps4neo and xbox scorpio debut
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Not really as these games consoles are using AMD integrated CPU and GPU SOCs so a laptop costing four times the price and using the latest generation hardware should really be more powerful IMO. But I guess with Apple at least it'll be thin?

koyoot said:
Radeon M480 based on Polaris 11 has 35W TDP, and offers performance in 4000 its range in 3dMark FireStrike.

I was talking about that 35W GPU that is mentioned higher than your post.
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It should offer more IMO, hopefully the overall system will manage to beat a games console teraflop performance level.
 
man02195 said:
Due to be released later this month (June 2016)

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-polaris-10-polaris-11-specs-performance/

AMD Radeon RX 480M Performance Benchmarks Revealed – Polaris 11 With 35W TDP
AMD also showed us a glimpse of their Radeon RX 480M laptop GPU in the presentation. According to the slide shown by AMD, the Radeon RX 480M is a very efficient laptop chip with a rated TDP of just 35W. Benchmarks posted by Tweakers show that the Polaris 11 chip scores 4070 points in 3DMark Firestrike against 3500 points of the Radeon R9 M280 (82W). In 3DMark 11, the RX 480M scores 7200 points against 5700 points on the R9 280M.
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Even better than the FirePro M6100 that I'm using right now, and at 35W instead of my 75W. Nice. Hopefully they put this chip new 15 mbp.
 
apolloa said:
Not really as these games consoles are using AMD integrated CPU and GPU SOCs so a laptop costing four times the price and using the latest generation hardware should really be more powerful IMO. But I guess with Apple at least it'll be thin?
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Not in macbook pro tdp limit and "thicknes". If xbox scorpio is on 14nm will consume maybe even over 200W as x480 wich is 5.5tflops consume around 150w as leaks says.
 
snc said:
Not in macbook pro tdp limit and "thicknes". If xbox scorpio is on 14nm will consume maybe even over 200W as x480 wich is 5.5tflops consume around 150w as leaks says.
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I would agree, but Razer manage to fit powerful GPUs in their laptops that are as thin as a MacBook Pro, but I know Apple won't do that.
The CPU in a laptop should be more powerful too. I believe the 6 teraflop is the entire Scorpio system performance level, and Apple never releases those for its systems but I would expect the new laptop range to beat it.
Mind you with what they showed at WWDC I'll be surprised if they don't ditch their laptops, seems the iPad is getting more and more laptop programmes and attention.
 
apolloa said:
I would agree, but Razer manage to fit powerful GPUs in their laptops that are as thin as a MacBook Pro, but I know Apple won't do that.
The CPU in a laptop should be more powerful too. I believe the 6 teraflop is the entire Scorpio system performance level, and Apple never releases those for its systems but I would expect the new laptop range to beat it.
Mind you with what they showed at WWDC I'll be surprised if they don't ditch their laptops, seems the iPad is getting more and more laptop programmes and attention.
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First of all, Xbox will have mostly 150W of power supply that will feed only the system of the console. MBP has 85W power supply. And two separate pieces that consume the most power: CPU and GPU. Apple uses Intel CPUs, that are only Quad core, and 8 core only in 140W Xeon CPU and High-end Desktop i7.

Secondly Razer laptops also have 150W power supply. And 3 hours of battery life.

That Xbox is more powerful than some desktops today. And you want a laptop, with limited thermal envelope to be as powerful as a stationary console.
 
apolloa said:
I would agree, but Razer manage to fit powerful GPUs in their laptops that are as thin as a MacBook Pro, but I know Apple won't do that.
The CPU in a laptop should be more powerful too. I believe the 6 teraflop is the entire Scorpio system performance level, and Apple never releases those for its systems but I would expect the new laptop range to beat it.
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CPUs peak fp32 performance is around 0.2tflops so don't even bother to count :) And old 2014 macbook pro 15 has more powerfull cpu than xbox one and ps4 has but gpu is another story ;) But ofcourse if apple prirority was game performance then they would increase tdp limit to level of xps 15 but they don't care about this.
 
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snc said:
CPUs peak fp32 performance is around 0.2tflops so don't even bother to count :) And old 2014 macbook pro 15 has more powerfull cpu than xbox one and ps4 has but gpu is another story ;) But ofcourse if apple prirority was game performance then they will increase tdp limit to level of xps 15 but they don't care about this.
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And yet the Xbone and PS4 will have better graphics in some games then a 2014 MacBook Pro.
 
tooslickz said:
There is also a lot of references to led in Sierra from that Felix Schwarz twitter thread.

http://www.macg.co/os-x/2016/06/macos-sierra-donne-des-indices-sur-les-macbook-pro-ruban-led-94544
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Seems like some kind of LED bar confirmed. I was looking at when past operating systems have been released in the past, and they range from July to late October. The quicker, the better.

Maybe an announcement in late July/early August, and then Sierra release/nMBP late August?
 
Uni Grad said:
If Apple follows OS X El Capitan's release schedule for macOS Sierra, then we're sure to see MacBook Pros unveiled at the iPhone event (or now known as the hardware event) and will be avaliable by the end of September. That seems right.
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I think having an iPhone update AND a Mac Hardware update isn't typical for Apple. I think we're going to see Mac hardware a month before the iPhone event. The iPhone event is always big enough for just itself. Maybe small iPad updates and updated watch there too?
 
heeloliver said:
I think having an iPhone update AND a Mac Hardware update isn't typical for Apple. I think we're going to see Mac hardware a month before the iPhone event. The iPhone event is always big enough for just itself. Maybe small iPad updates and updated watch there too?
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Based on the AMD graphics cards being available the end of June, I think that's probably the most likely outcome. I don't see Octane being in this release (duh), and I don't see them waiting until February / March 2017 to come out with Intel 6th generation / AMD graphics / TB3 revisions to rMBP
 
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