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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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sickens said:
Had zero interest in purchasing a 2016 MBP until my 2015 13" rMBP was stolen last week (SO MUCH FUN!)

So here I am. In need of a new machine. Joining in on this waiting game.

I could possibly wait until September, but the struggle is real to not just pull the trigger on a well-spec'd refurb 15" rMBP model right now. I definitely want to go 15" for the additional power this time. This is a work machine. They're paying for it. I don't really have the option to buy now / flip when the new model comes out so I buy now, and I'm stuck with it for a while.

So I wait.

Or do I?

Arg.
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Same boat as you. I have a personal 2012 rMBP that I'm using for work, but my company is offering a new machine. Taking a gamble as I'm hearing that later this year we may be losing our option to choose our machine. So either get the MBP now or take a chance for the new model. I'm taking the gambling route.
 
My company is actually thinking of switching completely to Windows laptops after so many years of Apple laptops since it just doesn't justify the price and release cycle
 
I just went for a top of the line refurb 15" (if the MacOtokara June rumors are right, and the new one actually debuts next week, I'm still in the return window if I prefer the new one).

My reasoning was:
Skylake itself doesn't actually matter - the 2.8 gHz Haswell (which is the CTO upgrade) will beat all but the CTO processor upgrade Skylake model (the actual CPU performance is that close).

Polaris might very well be a real upgrade, but I don't game, and Adobe is often slow or buggy on GPU support.

The three upgrades I'd really care about (screen, RAM or SSD size) are rarely mentioned - the new machine might have none, one, two or all three of them.

In exchange for these upgrades, I'd almost certainly be asked to accept a couple of drawbacks:

No useful ports (for plugging anything except dongles into).
No SD Reader (use it all the time)
The MacBook keyboard is a real possibility.
 
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ssong said:
Kinda hoping for a Microsoft branded laptop, like a Microsoft XPS
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If Microsoft would make a normal line of laptops based off the SB and SP4 they'd have a winner, since I find build quality identical to Macs despite the numerous software issues(Although, they seem to have ironed everything out based on my experience with my SP4).
 
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After a while with the new 2015 model I'm pretty happy I went with it. I use the USB A ports on a daily basis to connect my audio interface, and my monitor is just a 21" HDTV, so the hdmi port is very useful. Of course the new processors will be nice, but it seems like the 13" won't get too much of a benefit as it won't include Polaris and I have no USB-C devices, so I would need dongles on all the ports
 
Maybe you have heard about this, but Kaby Lake GPU will receive HDR features. So if Apple will offer external display with HDR this is what they might consider instead of Skylake CPUs in MBPs.
 
TechZeke said:
If Microsoft would make a normal line of laptops based off the SB and SP4 they'd have a winner, since I find build quality identical to Macs despite the numerous software issues(Although, they seem to have ironed everything out based on my experience with my SP4).
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As a previous owner of a SB the build quality is much better than most Windows laptops (and you pay for it) but it is not identical to MacBooks. There is almost a 100% of getting some degree of light bleed on either a SP4 or SB -- and its usually a decent bit. The hinge on SB had some crinkly plastic sound on a good number of units. Ribbons have been known to be sticking out of the edge of the glass in some SP4s. I mean just a number of poor quality control examples.

Actually ended up being the reason I returned it. It was my first "expensive" laptop that I planned on having for a while and I just couldn't let myself keep it with light bleed , noisy hinge, and at the time buggy software.

I'm hopeful SB2 will be much better but I doubt it. While Microsoft has fixed/ improved/innovated a number of things with their surface line up, their quality control doesn't seem to have be any better.
 
Sugarbear33 said:
As a previous owner of a SB the build quality is much better than most Windows laptops (and you pay for it) but it is not identical to MacBooks. There is almost a 100% of getting some degree of light bleed on either a SP4 or SB -- and its usually a decent bit. The hinge on SB had some crinkly plastic sound on a good number of units. Ribbons have been known to be sticking out of the edge of the glass in some SP4s. I mean just a number of poor quality control examples.

Actually ended up being the reason I returned it. It was my first "expensive" laptop that I planned on having for a while and I just couldn't let myself keep it with light bleed , noisy hinge, and at the time buggy software.

I'm hopeful SB2 will be much better but I doubt it. While Microsoft has fixed/ improved/innovated a number of things with their surface line up, their quality control doesn't seem to have be any better.
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My SP4 has been perfect so far.(Haven't checked for blacklight bleed, but haven't noticed any so far) Plus, I've had more issues with both my old 2012 15" cMBP(Loud creaking and popping sound; eventually had to replace the whole top case/hinge under AppleCare) and current Late 2013 15" rMBP(small creak sound from hinge, the hinge itself was too tight out of box, and the rMBP creaks in some areas in-general).
 
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here is an apple thunderbolt-display working with the xps 15 9550 windows 10 using the Startech Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt Adapter
 
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ConnorMcJeebus said:
Why would Intel favor Apple over PC manufacturers (e.g. Dell, HP, etc.) when the PC manufacturers sell many more units than Apple? Intel doesn't care about the Apple premium or prestige or profit. They care about number of units sold. The only exception would be if Apple pays them a ludicrous amount of money for early access...which will probably be seen as anti-competitive or a bribe.
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Wasn't it said Apple sells the most computers out of any brand?
 
padaxax said:
Wouldn't it be possible to plug an eGPU System to an old Macbook with Thunderbolt 1 or 2 with this adapter? Shouldn't it atleast work in Win 10?
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No. This is a TB2(f) to TB3(m) adapter. There is no evidence that its possible to connect a TB3 device to TB2 or TB1 in any way. Nor are there any TB3(f) to TB2/1(m) adapters available.

this doesn't negate the existing crop of tb2 eGPU, but newer solutions riding tb3 simply won't work on older hardware, a big reason why I'm holding out.
 
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danwells said:
The three upgrades I'd really care about (screen, RAM or SSD size) are rarely mentioned
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RAM will be DDR4. SSD's we don't know nothing. Will probably be NVMe on same sizes. Screen might be same res, P3 panel. This is the rumours I've seen, have no idea how the screen will actually be, but I hope it is a same res with p3 like the iMac.
 
it amazes me that they blew the macbook's 10th anniversary.

also, they had engineering samples of the proper skylake (hq?) chip since around mid 2015, possibly earlier.
 
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bfreek said:
it amazes me that they blew the macbook's 10th anniversary.

also, they had engineering samples of the proper skylake (hq?) chip since around mid 2015, possibly earlier.
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Doesn't matter if they had those processors a decade ago if they're not available in large enough quantities for US to buy them.
 
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BenTrovato said:
It's not about "better" because better is different for everyone. It's about paying a hefty premium for an Apple product that uses old - no, ancient technologies; and in a few months the current model is going to be completely revamped in every way. How do you tell a friend to spend thousands on that type of product?
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Older tech that out performs its competition - and with better battery life.
 
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Not sure if this has been mentioned: alienware is shipping a laptop with a 2560 x 1440 OLED panel.

I find these rumors about the oled function strip to be a sick joke. Apple must make this thing with a full OLED display...
 
This is my first post. I was mostly content to read those who can keep a pulse on this better than I. Does anyone know if the new MBP skylake or not will support more than 16GB of RAM? I'm not seeing how performance improvement for those who are memory intensive is accomplished in a meaningful way compared to the latest 2015 version. please educate me before I go buy a 2015 model at the stupid prices they charge. I think i will get the biggest improvement to an ssd and 16GB config, but not sure I can hold out any more. I should have pulled the trigger back in December. Its like I've been holding my breath for a year now, and only planned on being underwater for 6 months max. The air bubbles ran out.....
 
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