Oh I agree usb -c is awesome. I'm saying 4 is excessive though. You even point that out with your statement. 1 usb-c to dock to everything you have. You won't be needing 4 usb-c ports for quite some time.
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I think we were supposed to get MacBook Pros at WWDC, but then they realized that OLED touchbar was a disaster...and so pulled back and instead gave us 30 minutes of emojis.
Yes you are right. And because of that, Apple could just replace the two Thunderbolt 2 ports in the current machine with Thunderbolt 3 / USB C ports and keep all of the other ports including magsafe.
If they kept 'old' ports, no one would be forced to use USB-c. Everybody would continue using the old ports and USB-C would probably die pretty soon, again ...
It's really that simple. I don't get why most people on here don't get that.
It's really that simple. I don't get why most people on here don't get that.
What if... I mean... what if Apple makes 2 ports Thunderbolt 3 / USB-C, and two other ports... dum-dum-dum... Thunderbolt 2! For compatibility!
After all, USB-C - USB-A adapters are pretty cheap (since they're passive). Not the case for Thunderbolt 3 - Thunderbolt 2. This would be the first time Apple actually cared about their long loyal clients. (sarcasm)
After all, USB-C - USB-A adapters are pretty cheap (since they're passive). Not the case for Thunderbolt 3 - Thunderbolt 2. This would be the first time Apple actually cared about their long loyal clients. (sarcasm)
So when exactly are the new macbooks supposed to come out? I need more power right now, but I don't wanna buy a loaded 2015 MacBook pro if the new one is within reach.
This has been talked about on this thread many times. I believe a few people on this thread purchased one, and good for them it's a great laptop/ultrabook. It's a closer competitor to rMB or rMBA if that was a thing. Though I think most people would prefer the new rMBP for official and stable MacOS support, apple trackpads, faster internal gpu . (Iris 550 is slightly over 2x faster I think) and 15" Polaris even faster still of course.
I thought about buying one for a long time, but the razer core wasn't shipping for half a year, and now it's finally shipping!
I don't mind the having to buy dongles, I already have some. But I do hate the idea of having to carry them around. Makes the system way less portable. And it's flat out embarrassing to me having to use a dongle. For something that most other people have. I guess apple likes that we hate dongles so that it will force people to adapt.
That's quite a depressing story man
I would also love if hdmi was left in the rMBP. I use hdmi on mine all the time!
I think it's a possibility for 16gb Ram. Not for i7 though, and they shouldn't !
You're right. I am still wishing 1 USB-A port will remain.
Xps 13 has usb c ports ? How have I not noticed this?! Lol my bad.
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I could be wrong but something doesn't seem right here90% - September-November.
30% - this summer.
30% - next spring.
10% - never.
Where?
But I really think it's like
10% July-august
80% September
10% October- November
I am guessing they want to ship it with Sierra.
I'm surprised some are still holding out hope for a special event in July/August. Look, I'm a forever optimist 99% of the time but Apple's quarterly fiscal review has been announced already for late July (27th if I remember right). They won't announce an event before then, which means it would be 1 week at a minimum before announcing an event then two weeks from announcement to event. That's mid-August, and too close to a September event to justify.
I'd say odds of release are:
20% September
40% October
30% November
10% Early 2017
I'd say odds of release are:
20% September
40% October
30% November
10% Early 2017
Yeah right. People who thought they would release new MBP at WWDC were ignoring clear signs on the road and hoping for a miracle.
Same argument. There are so many USB-C devices out TODAY that none of us can leverage because Apple is delaying
No one is saying that USB-C will work for the average joe today. But most of us are looking forward to going to it so we can have single cable monitor/dock solutions. If it's not for you then why are you here? Leaks already showed that's the way they're going. Same comments were made on FireWire/Ethernet/cd-drive. Things change, and on average, every ~5 years (4 years ago we lost Ethernet, cd drives, FireWire, Kensington security slot, battery indicator, and IR port). It's that time again, live with it.
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Sometimes you have to drag people kicking and screaming into the future.
I was saying there won't be a separate Mac event between now and September. My predictions include a September announcement with September release, September announcement with October release, October announcement with October release, October announcement with November release, and early 2017 announcement with release soon thereafter. I don't expect an event in November, nor a launch after Black Friday.
Previously I doubted a September announcement because "iPhone is King" and September is traditionally reserved for marketing the big money maker. But that was before rumors started to suggest the 2016 iPhone won't be a redesign at all, but rather another 6-model (I don't think Apple will call an upgraded 6-model the iPhone). Now I think Apple could be saving the new MBP for a September announcement to take attention away from how boring the iPhone 6X is. Still, my money is on October if I were to bet on it.
90% - September-November.
30% - this summer.
30% - next spring.
10% - never.
Doesn't add up to 100%. So it must be right
Apple had better do something soon. And I don't think they can rely on Intel. The whole industry is in denial, but Intel has hit the wall. No improvement in CPU speeds. Every generation is behind schedule. Skylake isn't living up to even the modest promises. Nothing supports Thunderbolt 3, Intel's own standard, but basically because the processors aren't up to the promises Thunderbolt 3 comes with. Nobody wants to say it because there is no alternative…
The noises out of the US don't sound much different, except lower prices seem to cushioning the fall at bit more.
And the Apple echo chamber is all about - well, no new design this year for iPhone, BECAUSE next year is the tenth anniversary, etc.
Whatever happened to Tim Cook's 'we'll innovate our way out of the downturn'? Apple needs a new iPhone design THIS year AND a brilliant NEWER design next year for the tenth anniversary. THAT is how you get customers interested in your product in a downturn - really cool new stuff, and to sweeten the deal, how about prices go down to reward loyal customers! Sacrifice average profit to make it up in volume! Most especially if you can't deliver increased performance!!
Nobody's THAT excited about Sky-late MacBook Pro, because if recent years are any guide, there won't be any improvement in performance and the prospect of them being able to drive an Apple Retina external monitor (so far overdue, it's an industry joke) just went up in smoke.
And forget about a Mac Pro. In a non-upgradeable product, Apple needs to be upgrading processors and most particularly GPUs at LEAST yearly if they want anyone to wake out of their stupor over Mac Pro.
Yes Intel's on the rocks.
No ARM won't replace a mobile much less desktop processor.
Apple saw how iPad sales fell when they didn't upgrade the iPad Air 2, and yet they refuse to double-down on innovation, not only in notebooks and desktops, but iPhone, the goose with the golden egg!!
Apple is in a pit of its own making and customers locked-in to the ecosystem (don't anybody mention Apple Music, please) are feeling like they're being taken for a ride!
Hey look, shiny new notebook, slower than last year… but emoji are triple the size…
The pit gets deeper, the future gets darker and Siri's smartarse attitude as it falls on its face over the simplest of tasks is the audible sound of the world's largest company falling completely out of touch.
An underperforming Skylake MBP in October after the most exciting thing about this year's iPhone in September will be a darker shade of (brown?) for 'space grey' - will really cap a disastrous year for Apple-lock-ins!!
I visited an Apple Store today (mall store), half the shop including the Genius Bar was repairs. NOBODY looking at ANY Macs, Watches or iPhones, and just 2 adults and 2 children playing with Pencils on iPad Pros. This is unheard of for this Apple Store. It's as busy as any of them. Admittedly this is Australia, where iPhones are $1500 and the MacBook went up $400 in the 6 months after I bought it. Add high prices outside the US, from where the majority of Apple's sales come, to a worldwide downturn in all consumer electronics and you can see why demand is low.
The noises out of the US don't sound much different, except lower prices seem to cushioning the fall at bit more.
And the Apple echo chamber is all about - well, no new design this year for iPhone, BECAUSE next year is the tenth anniversary, etc.
Whatever happened to Tim Cook's 'we'll innovate our way out of the downturn'? Apple needs a new iPhone design THIS year AND a brilliant NEWER design next year for the tenth anniversary. THAT is how you get customers interested in your product in a downturn - really cool new stuff, and to sweeten the deal, how about prices go down to reward loyal customers! Sacrifice average profit to make it up in volume! Most especially if you can't deliver increased performance!!
Nobody's THAT excited about Sky-late MacBook Pro, because if recent years are any guide, there won't be any improvement in performance and the prospect of them being able to drive an Apple Retina external monitor (so far overdue, it's an industry joke) just went up in smoke.
And forget about a Mac Pro. In a non-upgradeable product, Apple needs to be upgrading processors and most particularly GPUs at LEAST yearly if they want anyone to wake out of their stupor over Mac Pro.
Yes Intel's on the rocks.
No ARM won't replace a mobile much less desktop processor.
Apple saw how iPad sales fell when they didn't upgrade the iPad Air 2, and yet they refuse to double-down on innovation, not only in notebooks and desktops, but iPhone, the goose with the golden egg!!
Apple is in a pit of its own making and customers locked-in to the ecosystem (don't anybody mention Apple Music, please) are feeling like they're being taken for a ride!
Hey look, shiny new notebook, slower than last year… but emoji are triple the size…
Any wonder that even among developers, that was more popular than Clipboard Continuity, or we're-going-to-do-to-your-documents-what-we've-done-for-Music-and-Photos, delete them from your hard drive and hide them in the cloud for you, good-luck-with-getting-them-back-when-you-need-them.
The pit gets deeper, the future gets darker and Siri's smartarse attitude as it falls on its face over the simplest of tasks is the audible sound of the world's largest company falling completely out of touch.
An underperforming Skylake MBP in October after the most exciting thing about this year's iPhone in September will be a darker shade of (brown?) for 'space grey' - will really cap a disastrous year for Apple-lock-ins!!
It's not the same argument, as we're talking about two different I/Os that are not similarly situated in the marketplace. You're making a straw man argument.
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