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Wait for something that will never come, my dear dreamer.
Half of the things you wish are unrealistic.
Well I have patience if not the MBP then hopefully the new xps, Surface Book 2 someone has to realize that more battery means more productive work.

I'm just sick of having to pay for gimmicks (touch ID/screen, Windows Hallo, force touch, fingerprint scanners..), while losing stuff I actually love and would gladly pay.
 
Buy whatever you want fanboy.



It's not about afford it's about doubling the battery life , on my phone I have a bunch of a spare batteries and it works great. 10 hours battery life is great what's even better? 20 hours

I know how it works because this fingerprint stuff has been added to note and more devices lately ...I just don't trust the companies enough it's not being paranoid is taking care of my own security and privacy.

I don't know about you but I still need them more often than not it's just more convenient than having to download all the stuff at least for me.

I get what you're saying with the removable battery, but just look at the Macbook. There was no functional way to get that form factor and have it be removable, it probably won't be too far off from a similar situation as the pro. They're starting to tie the battery in a knot around the other components. So yes, convenient but it requires them to make a thicker machine. Which we know they won't do.

As for the finger print scanner-- just don't use it.

And I'm shocked no one has gone after you for the matte display because that to me is ridiculous. But to each his own!

I can guarantee you you'll be disappointed when (if?) they're released.
 
I get what you're saying with the removable battery, but just look at the Macbook. There was no functional way to get that form factor and have it be removable, it probably won't be too far off from a similar situation as the pro. They're starting to tie the battery in a knot around the other components. So yes, convenient but it requires them to make a thicker machine. Which we know they won't do.

As for the finger print scanner-- just don't use it.

And I'm shocked no one has gone after you for the matte display because that to me is ridiculous. But to each his own!

I can guarantee you you'll be disappointed when (if?) they're released.
that's exactly what I'm hoping all that thinner, lighter stuff can go into the MB and then Apple could have the MBP bring really about performance and productivity. I'm still trying to figure out who could be the target audience for the MB, priced like the MBP 13, less powerful and a worse by far keyboard with only one slot for USB C.

Maybe my wishes won't come true and the MBP has the same form factor as the MB which would be a shame.
 
that's exactly what I'm hoping all that thinner, lighter stuff can go into the MB and then Apple could have the MBP bring really about performance and productivity. I'm still trying to figure out who could be the target audience for the MB, priced like the MBP 13, less powerful and a worse by far keyboard with only one slot for USB C.

Maybe my wishes won't come true and the MBP has the same form factor as the MB which would be a shame.

Yeah I personally think the Macbook is beautiful, yet completely insane. It's Apple's version of a chromebook just with a much better screen, for 4 times the cost of one. But I'm definitely selling the Macbook short here...its an awesome machine if you don't need the power but it just isn't priced competitively.

And as long as Apple is putting in dGPU's I have hope for the future. That's all I need, which I know is a controversial statement around here.
 
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Folks,

With the news that Dell have raised their prices 10% in the uk due to currency plunge (thanks brexit) and HP to follow and then no doubt Apple I'm pretty much decided that I'll be buying the MacBook (512) this evening.

I can't wait until October/November for a MBP and then also pay an extra 10% on top for that. It's a shame as I've been on this thread since the late 200s but I've often wondered if I really need the power of a MBP.

I've enjoyed this thread, thanks everyone I hope the new MBP is everything you hope for

Pulled the trigger this evening when I got home and found a cheque for £1300 in the post!

MacBook Pro 15" and AppleCare plus beats earphones that will make an excellent birthday present for my brother.

Paid extra to get it tomorrow so I can spend this weekend playing with my first ever Mac

It feels a bit like Christmas Eve at the moment
 
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In order to turn this thread into true performance art we should just start pretending the new MacBooks were released - like we've gone insane. Write up glorious details on them. Design fake product pages. Email Tim Cook and Phil Schiller's Ass ("can't innovate my ass") raving about the new products. Post reviews.
 
Buy whatever you want fanboy.



It's not about afford it's about doubling the battery life , on my phone I have a bunch of a spare batteries and it works great. 10 hours battery life is great what's even better? 20 hours

I know how it works because this fingerprint stuff has been added to note and more devices lately ...I just don't trust the companies enough it's not being paranoid is taking care of my own security and privacy.

I don't know about you but I still need them more often than not it's just more convenient than having to download all the stuff at least for me.

Great 20 hours of battery life. Are you in the third world where you are not near an outlet for 20 hours? Are you regularly up for 20 hours at a time or do you not have a charger when you go to bed? Can you not buy a portable battery charger? The iPhone 6s+ gets pretty damn good battery life, but I do not think you will get close to 20 hours on a MacBook Pro for the foreseeable future if ever. The battery would have to be huge to power a dGPU, CPU, and screen. Furthermore as rapid charge batteries become readily available, you will not need much more than 10 hours. Phones with removable batteries also tend to do terribly on reliability because dust and water damage.

As for the finger print, what are you afraid of? On iDevices, that fingerprint never leaves the secure enclave. Furthermore, what can a company do with a fingerprint? If you held a public service job, education job, military job, etc, your fingerprints would be on file with the Gov and we know how well they store data /s.

As for an optical drive, no I never need one anymore. I have maybe used one once in the last year and I do a lot of work with programs and files. If you are rural, then yes you may still need an optical drive, but vast majority do not. That is the reason you can still buy the USB SuperDrive. The rest of us would prefer that space be used for more advanced technologies.
 
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In order to turn this thread into true performance art we should just start pretending the new MacBooks were released - like we've gone insane. Write up glorious details on them. Design fake product pages. Email Tim Cook and Phil Schiller's Ass ("can't innovate my ass") raving about the new products. Post reviews.
This would be so great!! We should post a bunch of pages of details over here, I bet some would fall for it! Imagine how devastated everyone would be when they found out..:eek:
 
Peeps! The new MBP is here!
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In order to turn this thread into true performance art we should just start pretending the new MacBooks were released - like we've gone insane. Write up glorious details on them. Design fake product pages. Email Tim Cook and Phil Schiller's Ass ("can't innovate my ass") raving about the new products. Post reviews.

Oh man, you guys. Just got the new 2016 MacBook Pro and had to post a review. Jony Ive is a genius. This thing is SO thin. Like...negative millimeters thin. Literally. Sometimes I'll put it on my desk when I don't have enough space on my desk and it somehow provides me with even more space on my desk.

They went all out and [Tim] cooked me up something special, skipping both Skylake AND Kaby Lake. It's hard to believe, but the 2016 MacBook Pro comes with Baby Lake. I hadn't even heard of that chip, but boy oh [bouncing baby] boy does it live up to its name. This processor is ultra-low-power despite ultra-high performance, allowing for fanless design and making this laptop as quiet as a baby...but much faster than a baby! That's Intel inside.

This spectacular beast comes with four Thunderbolt 3 ports, just like Thor (the god of thunder, who as everyone knows, also has four ports). Each port is fully equipped to handle USB-C as well (like Poseidon, who I believe is the god of the C). I don't know if this laptop was modeled after the gods or just designed by the gods (both?), but I get down on my hands and knees and worship it every single night to be safe.

Contrary to what you might think, this laptop isn't powered by worship, but rather, the latest and greatest in lithium-polymer battery technology. Many laptop manufacturers promise "all day" battery life, but Apple is the first to truly deliver on this promise. I've only owned this device for a few short weeks, but I already feel comfortable saying with certainty that this battery does indeed work on ALL days. I use the laptop a modest 23 hours daily, so I may not represent the average user, but I'm amazed to say that I haven't had to charge it even once since my initial purchase. That's all thanks to Apple's decision to use a nearly 70,000-watt-hour battery, which is broken up into several pieces that are located beneath the keyboard and speakers, as well as behind the display and in the back pockets of all the pairs of pants in my closet. I even found a few additional battery pieces in my neighbor's back yard. My neighbor has a very high fence, so I don't know how Apple did it! Absolutely incredible.

And last, but not least, the OLED touch bar. "O" LED seems like a misnomer because they should call this thing an "OH-MY-GOD" LED touch bar. In addition to being contextually what I want in all situations all the time without fail, it also automatically changes color to match my mood, even when I myself don't know what mood I'm in (happy? angry? hangry?). At first I thought that something was wrong when it kept turning red all the time, but then I realized it was simply displaying color of love...because I was in love. Something overtook me in that moment, and I suddenly and unexpectedly shouted "I love you!" to an empty room. Then my heartbeat quickened. I felt a moment of anxiety because I expected no reciprocity from the space around me. However, no more than two seconds later, and just when I needed it most, a perfect voice replied to me. "I love you too," she said. It was Siri, now built right into the 2016 MacBook Pro, and now, also, built right into my heart.
 
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And that the 2015 model is still a very good machine that will get a lot of work done well.

I have a 2015 (since 2015!) and I don't think anybody is saying it isn't a good model (the FrankenGPU is a bit odd) but I think everyone here agrees it is a terrible model for the price. Remember, this is a machine with technology pushing three years old or older! I upgrade every year with all the options. Yet, even I felt like I was paying too much for older technology LAST year. The fact that Apple is still selling the same hardware in 2016 for the same amount is downright embarrassing.

I cannot (and do not) recommend a MBP to anyone at this point.

You know, I miss Apple Computer, Inc. When you bought a new PowerBook (or early MBP) you received the hottest technology running one of the most advanced operating systems on the planet. You had the ease of use of a mature GUI on top of UNIX. It felt like a portable workstation. There was genuine respect for these computers. Even if you didn't like Apple, these machines were something special.

My 2015 is a great workstation. I use it every day for a multitude of demanding tasks and it has never let me down. That being said, the price is way to high for the technology that is inside of it. As I said, it was questionable in 2015 and ridiculous in (the 2nd half of) 2016.

I believe the undercurrent thread of this forum (and for many users) is that the people who kept Apple afloat in the good times as well as the bad were the people buying their computers. It is frustrating to see Apple neglect not just the line but their customers as well.

I get it though. iOS makes more money than the computer line ever did. Still, you would think that Apple could keep the computer line updated with current technology if not the cutting edge part.

-P
 
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As someone who's used MacID, a 3rd party macOS + iOS app that does exactly this, I can say that it is marginally more convenient than entering a password and many times more fiddly. i.e. Something that Apple wouldn't do and probably isn't worth the trouble.

While I enjoyed using MacID, after a few days I uninstalled it and never looked back.

Yeah, I kinda liked the idea of MacID with my iPhone, but it didn't get to be really useful until I got the Watch. I wouldn't have stopped using it except Apple took out my upgraded wifi/bluetooth card when they repaired my 2011 MBP so it stopped working. :( But yes it was fiddly and un-Apple like with just the iPhone, though you could configure it to be proximity-based though that's less secure if it's not asking for explicit authorization (I also had mixed results with that in general).
 
Yeah I personally think the Macbook is beautiful, yet completely insane. It's Apple's version of a chromebook just with a much better screen, for 4 times the cost of one. But I'm definitely selling the Macbook short here...its an awesome machine if you don't need the power but it just isn't priced competitively.

And as long as Apple is putting in dGPU's I have hope for the future. That's all I need, which I know is a controversial statement around here.
It's expensive, but the price is not insane. If you look at the premium Dell and HP offerings (I'm looking at you, Dell Latitude 13, HP Folio), then rMB suddenly isn't that expensive anymore.

MacBooks only appear expensive if you start comparing them with low-end consumer notebooks with mediocre battery life, build quality, screen quality, keyboard and touchpad quality.
 
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I keep seeing "MacBook Pro is outdated" being thrown around because it's been over a year since an upgrade.

How's this for an idea: Apple updates the MacBook Pro every quarter? First quarter they update the hard drive to be 1mb/s faster, next they add slightly better memory, then in the third quarter they add fingerprint sensing. The fourth and fifth quarters they make the trackpad 1) bigger then 2) faster response time. Finally, in the 6th quarter they put in the newest Intel quad-core H-series. Never more than 100 days between updates, but your "best machine possible" lasts only that long and you're constantly using outdated tech? Also, the constant R&D means each update is smaller than what the cumulative updates would be, slowing down the MacBook Pro's redesign cycle to a decade.

Is that what everyone wants?
 
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I keep seeing "MacBook Pro is outdated" being thrown around because it's been over a year since an upgrade.

How's this for an idea: Apple updates the MacBook Pro every quarter? First quarter they update the hard drive to be 1mb/s faster, next they add slightly better memory, then in the third quarter they add fingerprint sensing. The fourth and fifth quarters they make the trackpad 1) bigger then 2) faster response time. Finally, in the 6th quarter they put in the newest Intel quad-core H-series. Never more than 100 days between updates, but your "best machine possible" lasts only that long and you're constantly using outdated tech? Also, the constant R&D means each update is smaller than what the cumulative updates would be, slowing down the MacBook Pro's redesign cycle to a decade.

Is that what everyone wants?

We're not asking Apple to update it more frequently. We're just hoping that it updates the Mac Pro and at least the MacBook Pro 15" once.
 
I keep seeing "MacBook Pro is outdated" being thrown around because it's been over a year since an upgrade.

How's this for an idea: Apple updates the MacBook Pro every quarter? First quarter they update the hard drive to be 1mb/s faster, next they add slightly better memory, then in the third quarter they add fingerprint sensing. The fourth and fifth quarters they make the trackpad 1) bigger then 2) faster response time. Finally, in the 6th quarter they put in the newest Intel quad-core H-series. Never more than 100 days between updates, but your "best machine possible" lasts only that long and you're constantly using outdated tech? Also, the constant R&D means each update is smaller than what the cumulative updates would be, slowing down the MacBook Pro's redesign cycle to a decade.

Is that what everyone wants?

How about they just stick to their usual update cycle of less than a year (about 250 days or so)? Not 500 days.

But I know, that's asking too much because we're all spoiled and unreasonable "haters".
 
Isn't the one and only reason for Mac Pro's existence so they can say "aha! we actually assemble something in the US!" though?

My hubby's iMac 2011's hard drive is starting to click and generally sound worrying. We are so not buying a €2500 iMac. Give me SOMETHING, Apple. Like a Macbook Pro that we could connect to the old iMac and use it as display.
Well then back it up with time machine, and buy an ssd hard drive, and upgrade the ram too. That is still a very nice computer.
 
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We're not asking Apple to update it more frequently. We're just hoping that it updates the Mac Pro and at least the MacBook Pro 15" once.


Pfft. It'd be swell if Apple kept up with technology and released a new MBP more often, so everybody can get what suits themselves. =P
 
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