Are there going to be notebook variants that soon? I was under the impression that this tech was going enterprise first and then trickle down to consumers. Could be wrong though.
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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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I think the majority of the complaints are going to be the angry people who just missed the return window and wanting others to justify their premature purchase, and others who purchased within the return window asking if they can still return/swap for the new one.
Yes, so much this especially if the new ones are mind bogglingly nice. Some will definitely say they were 'lured' by Apple with Beats and that the update will be marginal but we'll see I guess. Waiting is tough that's why were all in this sh*t together.
32 GB of RAM and USB-C come on apple that's all I need. Gimme my fix.
I probably would've had the same reaction. I haven't bought an rMB, but I have been using a 4K iMac recently (I bought it off my friend) and it's decent, but I've noticed it's a little sluggish and not "zippy" at all. And I think a lot of that has to do with the integrated graphics (it does have SSD). Especially when I use my Windows desktop afterward, it feels 50x faster.
So I don't know, I really hope that the combination of good processor, SSD, and a decent dGPU allows the new MBP (15") to be quite fast and powerful. OS X is such a good OS. It deserves a powerful machine.
Does it have that absurd i5-5250U in it? An SSD can only do so much when you have processor built for ultrabooks in a desktop. (and it would have Intel HD6000 instead of Iris Pro HD6200 in the i5-5575R). The base iMac, even with an SSD upgrade, is a pretty terrible machine.
That... ummm... is actually pretty much the definition of wanting something crazy!
It's a broader issue than just 'will they more or less bring it up to date', but yeah if that makes you happy then great.
But as I said, if they come out with a Skylake notebook in Q3 it would actually be a good thing in that you've finally a good chance of getting a stable driver setup. I don't believe Apple were psychic (i.e. I highly doubt they anticipated the Skylake issues and held their machines back) but it's played nicely into their hands IMO.
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Thats a good point. Some hypothesize that Since Apple skipped Broadwell they were hoping to get Skylake parts in by Late 2015 or early 2016, update the rMBP in its current chassis, then introduce a redesign later this year again with the same skylake chips but maybe some new polaris GPU and USB-C/TB3.
So wait, if you've been waiting since mid 2015 (many of us have), we probably would've jumped at the first skylake MBP even if it wasn't a complete redesign. I can't help but wonder, if Apple held out to line up the redesign and procs. I wouldn't want to miss out on (what Ming Calls) the best MBP update ever by a few months, but a skylake MBP would've been irresistible.
Keep in mind this is using the knowledge of the leaked 13" 2016 Chassis so that we know the redesign option exists and is in production (thanks, factory worker!). Before that, there was talk of "radical redesign" but nothing concrete. Certainly no talk of an all USB-C design.
Something changed radically, somewhere. Doubtful that we'll see new Macs before October (meaning they'd release with macOS Sierra), so why the hell were skylake kext included in 10.11 since March?!?!??? Certainly not to appease the hackintosh community (though they were grateful). I guess the new Macbook could be why, but would they include the entire stack for just one iGPU?
I would like the native resolution of the 15" (2880x1800) on the 13.3" and 256GB base SSD. Starting at 128GB is quite pathetic and the £200 hit to go from 128GB to 256GB on the current Retina has prevented me from upgrading from a classic Macbook Pro to Retina.
16GB base RAM in the 13.3" would be nice too but I doubt it will happen.
If the new model doesn't inspire me I will probably upgrade my 2012 Macbook Pro with an SSD.
16GB base RAM in the 13.3" would be nice too but I doubt it will happen.
If the new model doesn't inspire me I will probably upgrade my 2012 Macbook Pro with an SSD.
If Apple dropped a 17" rMBP I'd instantly buy one as soon as humanly possible.(Still haven't finished recovering my cash stash from buying my SP4
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The New MacBook Pro will be so stunning, you won't need that
They might move to IGZO / Oxide TFT (used in the latest iMacs), but OLED and uLED (this one specially) are out of the question, for now. Maybe in 2020 with the next redesign.
Intel told others to work around it, which is basically what happened. As for Apple, they used skylake in the retina macbook. They have not completely avoided it.
If our Apple overlords are gracious enough to:
- Not solder the storage drive to the motherboard
- Not make the storage drive some proprietary BS specification (they've done this before) and stick with m.2
I think they might bring an OLED screen in this redesign. Possibly in the 2nd or 3rd iteration...otherwise they wouldn't remove the glowing logo. OLED would be a hardware change like Force Touch, and therefore wouldn't affect the design, other than not having a backlight...which Apple has already future proofed with the steel logo.
What Skylake processor issues are you referring to that 'Apple is bidding their time with'? I've seen the errata list and the only 'big' issue was the prime number deadlock which was fixed using a BIOS update (and a stepping revision). Pretty minor stuff really. Every processor has bugs no matter who designs the chips.
There were driver issues with power management on the Surface (MS based I think) and an Intel driver issue with the GPU but driver issues are entirely differently than processor issues.
If you have a list I would like to see them.
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The 2013 air is the best laptop Apple has ever made (by that I mean when it first came out). Its dated now obviously, as is even the current air but even the old 2013 is hard to live up to (I know I have one I am typing this one and I am dying to upgrade it but there is no upgrade available that is worth the cost in my opinion!)
Does Intel really share a cumulative comprehensive errata list?
http://danluu.com/cpu-bugs/
The post seemed to indicate Intel had its hands full with Skylake in all likelihood.
Driver issues were what I was referring to, though of course they could be related directly to CPU issues. It seemed to take the early adopters a long time to sort them out. Display issues with the IGP in particular were just rife.
Now every mac, except the nMB are with "Don't Buy" status
Wow, that illustrates the problem so very well. What the hell is happening at Apple? Why can they not get ANYTHING out the door? Almost nothing new, even updates to old products are YEARS behind expected release dates? This leaves Apple very, very open to being gazumped by smaller, faster moving companies that are new to the game. Think Uber, AirBnB, Tesla or Xiaomi.
Xiaomi has just started opening their Mi Stores in China, they are just like Apple stores but with dozens of cutting edge, well designed products at prices about 1/5th what you would expect Apple products to be priced at. Just wait until they turn their attention from China to the rest of the world. How can a new manufacturer get DOZENS of new products out the door when Apple with all of their billions cannot even keep the MacPro updated when they are charging tens of thousands of dollars for each one?
Absolutely not. While Apple generates a brainwashed cult following among some, 'regular' people who buy Apple aren't really going to go to anything else as long as they don't make any major missteps - OK maybe Surface now, but generally speaking among regular consumers who're in the practice of buying Apple they're very 'sticky': It's the whole image, customer service and peer-group brand enchilada - which is very difficult to duplicate, especially on a 1st-world global basis.
A missed processor update isn't going to do their sales any harm - and they know that. I think the question you should be asking is, as a technology enthusiast should you be still with Apple?
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