Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

[KirekkusuPT]

Add to that:

Android - *crickets*

Comparing Android to iOS in terms of updates is ridiculous.

Android runs on tons of devices with tons of extra software added. The only fair comparison would be to compare a stock Android experience like the Nexus device, vs the stock iOS experience that is the iPhone/iPad (there's no other experience anyways).

In that regard there are yearly updates and the phones are supported for 4/5 years vs arround 3 on the Nexus side. iOS still wins, but not by the same margins you are trying to show.

 

[cmChimera]

Comparing Android to iOS in terms of updates is ridiculous.

Android runs on tons of devices with tons of extra software added. The only fair comparison would be to compare a stock Android experience like the Nexus device, vs the stock iOS experience that is the iPhone/iPad (there's no other experience anyways).

In that regard there are yearly updates and the phones are supported for 4/5 years vs arround 3 on the Nexus side. iOS still wins, but not by the same margins you are trying to show.

Windows runs on a ton of different devices too, but the update situation is handled far better.

 

[ThisBougieLife]

Indeed. My friend has an LG G4 and I remember his device getting the Marshmallow update several months after it first started showing up in other devices.

Furthermore, KirekkusuPT, that post of mine was mostly meant to be humorous, considering that the whole point of the quoted post was to compare the OSs and their update systems. No need to get any particular clothing items in a wad.

 

[Mattsasa]

yes, chips for the 13" are out already, both the 15w with hd540 and the 28w with hd550, we still can't say for sure what apple will use, but i strongly lean for the lower power version (giving credit to all rumors saying the new mpb will be the legendary so called retina-air!).

personally, after years (6) with the 15", my use of the laptop changed and now i'd like to go back to something lighter and more portable. the sweet spot would be a 14" with the same footprint and hardware as the current air. when i borrowed my sis's -air for some months i was amazed how quiet and cool it runs! the 45w cpu in my 15" feels like from generations behind.

i would approve a lineup like this one:
12" macbook starting 1099
14" macbook starting 1499
16" macbook PRO with 4core xeon and all the very best, starting.. ah they won't ever have it for less than 2499!
but as a no-compromise machine, i imagine people buying it with no second thoughts.

that 16" one is not a no compromise machine, it compromises portability, and Gaming GPU

So what are you guys now realistically expecting in the new MBP? My list is:

Expected:

• quad core Skylake processor
• slightly thinner design with similar battery life
• Polaris dGPU
• 2 x USB-C ports
• butterfly keyboard, less travel than current MBP but more than MB

Seems likely, but also perhaps not:

• eGPU support, perhaps through new TBD
• OLED function key display

those last 2 are almost definitely going to happen

What about a larger variant for the retina MacBook? Why hasn't Apple released one of those yet? I would assume that would be released before the new MacBook Pros?

I am also wondering about this

Unlikely. Most people buy a computer when they need one. They don't wait for the next best thing. If you are doing work and your Mac craps out on you, you really don't care if the current model has Skylake or an OLED bar.

right

 

[ThisBougieLife]

I still don't expect a larger MacBook. Hasn't the MacBook always been one size?

If they do release a larger, it will probably be 14", which seems strange to have the size in between the two presumed sizes of the Pros. And if it's 13", then it's only different by one inch, which is not Apple's usual sizing pattern.

 

[volcomvenom]

Just got a pair of beats studio 2.0 wired for cheap at the swap meet ($45), the right ear didn't work and I took them into the apple store and they replaced them for a brand new pair of Beats Studio Matte Black wireless ($379.95) no questions asked (besides where is the receipt and I told them I didn't have one and they made a one time thing where I didn't have to have the receipt). So long story short I bought a $45 pair of defective headphones and traded them for a $379.95 (in the apple store pair of wireless headphones. This is what I do while waiting for skylake.

 

[SwiftBunny]

I assume that's why Apple just had a terrible quarter for the Mac that coincided with a very stale looking Mac lineup. Lots of people do buy a laptop as and when they need one, but there are also many–evidenced by this forum–who are willing to wait.

My Mac is 6 years old and it works, so I'm in the position of wanting a new and fast machine, but I don't need one. There are many people in the same position who are prepared to wait.

I believe that most people not buying a mac right now are not waiting, they are more likely not willing to pay for a 4 years old computer.

 

[Exile714]

I believe that most people not buying a mac right now are not waiting, they are more likely not willing to pay for a 4 years old computer.

Just a point of clarification: the 4-year old computer is not the current MacBook Pro. Apple released a MacBook Pro in 2015. It was using a processor from the 2014 generation, but included a faster hard drive and the new touchpad.

The 2015 might not have been all it could be, and maybe Apple's a few months too late for 2016 since they didn't announce in June, but that "four-year old" MacBook line isn't really relevant.

 

[rentalanimal]

Apple'S FQ4 2016 will likely be record-breaking for Mac sales.

Apple calls holiday Q1. Just FYI

 

[geachy92]

I believe that most people not buying a mac right now are not waiting, they are more likely not willing to pay for a 4 years old computer.

If they still go on to buy an updated Pro when it gets released, then they waited. They may have done so reluctantly, but you can't call it anything else.

 

[YBS]

The only way developers can develop iOS apps is using Macs, right?
So, apple's multi-billion iPhone business is dependent on Macs, because if Macs die there'll be no more iOS apps. At least currently.
Am I right?

 

[Schranke]

Just got a pair of beats studio 2.0 wired for cheap at the swap meet ($45), the right ear didn't work and I took them into the apple store and they replaced them for a brand new pair of Beats Studio Matte Black wireless ($379.95) no questions asked (besides where is the receipt and I told them I didn't have one and they made a one time thing where I didn't have to have the receipt). So long story short I bought a $45 pair of defective headphones and traded them for a $379.95 (in the apple store pair of wireless headphones. This is what I do while waiting for skylake.

You seams proud of committing fraud...

 

[Loveandterror]

You seams proud of committing fraud...

Maybe he is. But isn't it also fraud to charge $379.95 for a pair of beats?

 

[Nubcake]

Maybe he is. But isn't it also fraud to charge $379.95 for a pair of beats?

Yeah, for $45, he still over payed.

 

[Schranke]

But isn't it also fraud to charge $379.95 for a pair of beats?

I have never been one for the beats headphones, so one could easily ague that, but it does not change anything.
You can get plenty of other headsets which does not cost as much if you need a headset.

 

[Ma2k5]

http://www.ultrabookreview.com/10839-asus-zenbook-3/

Looks like the Zenbook 3 is now going to sport the kabylake processors, due to debut soon. What could this mean for MacBooks?

 

[brammahh]

Guys, did you see the article on the front page? This explains a lot!

We were asking ourselves where are they putting all their resources into? It wasn't only new Watch bands, but a whole new Watch! Great.

 

[PKBeam]

Yeah, it's almost as if Apple are investing especially in their newer product lines to bring them up to speed with the rest of their lineup.

http://www.ultrabookreview.com/10839-asus-zenbook-3/

Looks like the Zenbook 3 is now going to sport the kabylake processors, due to debut soon. What could this mean for MacBooks?

It means that Apple will either wait until 2017 for Kaby Lake GT4 or release in late 2016 with Skylake.

 

[navaira]

Looks like the Zenbook 3 is now going to sport the kabylake processors, due to debut soon. What could this mean for MacBooks?

Even less sales.

 

[x-evil-x]

You seams proud of committing fraud...

why is it fraud if apple willingly takes back headphones without a receipt. Wheres the fraud in that? its not technically "stealing" its their return policy. Usually apple asks for receipts for everything nowadays not sure how they just did a special case with him but it was done and was done "legally".

 

[Exile714]

why is it fraud if apple willingly takes back headphones without a receipt. Wheres the fraud in that? its not technically "stealing" its their return policy. Usually apple asks for receipts for everything nowadays not sure how they just did a special case with him but it was done and was done "legally".

Apple's return policy applies only to a certain timeframe, and only applies if the person originally bought from Apple. The warranty does transfer if you sell it, but the poster had no way of knowing where the original owner got theirs, nor when.

Just because Apple has a policy of being trusting for returns does not make fraud "legal" in the same way a Nigerian scammer's fraud isn't legal because some grandma is too trusting.

 

[x-evil-x]

Apple's return policy applies only to a certain timeframe, and only applies if the person originally bought from Apple. The warranty does transfer if you sell it, but the poster had no way of knowing where the original owner got theirs, nor when.

Just because Apple has a policy of being trusting for returns does not make fraud "legal" in the same way a Nigerian scammer's fraud isn't legal because some grandma is too trusting.

But they could of turned down the return is all I'm saying. Could he of been stopped and arrested for what he did? no. The worst that could of happened is they would say no

 

[navaira]

Just because Apple has a policy of being trusting for returns does not make fraud "legal" in the same way a Nigerian scammer's fraud isn't legal because some grandma is too trusting.

So you think Apple is the trusting grandma of home computing fashionable headphones?

 

[j1104638]

So you think Apple is the trusting grandma of home computing fashionable headphones?

Do they happen to have knit watchbands?

 

[purfledspruce]

[doublepost=1470573430][/doublepost]I think you mean vice versa.

You are correct. While I am an engineer, I do not spend a lot of time with IT related work any more...normally I double check my processor references because of that, but my 3-year old was being particularly difficult this weekend...Thanks for the correction.