I doubt we'll get the new Mbps in sept. Otherwise the current models would be selling out by now.
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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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Perhaps Apple is keeping inventory of the older models because they're expecting controversy over the redesign.
sorry I meant announce in Sept '16 - assuming apple do announce the rMBP with the iPhone 7 and watchOS and Sierra (I'm still convinced apple watch 2 gen will be 2017)
will the costs be similar for say a rMBP 13"?
It seems with the iPhone the prices are similar but we get better spec.
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New design definitely means higher price, but hopefully they don't get too crazy.
Let's say $1500 for the new 13" MBP and $2200 for the 15". It would be super awesome if they can offer them cheaper than that. If the prices do go up, hopefully the cost to make upgrades comes down so it kind of evens out.
To offset a price hike, they could drop the price of the current 13" to $1100, maybe even $1000 to replace the then discontinued classic MBP. So people can still get a great machine at an awesome price if they don't care about the new tech and design.
You then have offerings at $1000 (old 13" rMBP) / $1300 (MB) / $1500 (13" MBP) and $2200 (15" MBP). Then they'd be free to finally nix the MBA and drive anyone who is looking for a sub-$1000 machine to the iPads. It'd also satisfy the crazy people who want less options and want simplifications of product lines.
Let's say $1500 for the new 13" MBP and $2200 for the 15". It would be super awesome if they can offer them cheaper than that. If the prices do go up, hopefully the cost to make upgrades comes down so it kind of evens out.
To offset a price hike, they could drop the price of the current 13" to $1100, maybe even $1000 to replace the then discontinued classic MBP. So people can still get a great machine at an awesome price if they don't care about the new tech and design.
You then have offerings at $1000 (old 13" rMBP) / $1300 (MB) / $1500 (13" MBP) and $2200 (15" MBP). Then they'd be free to finally nix the MBA and drive anyone who is looking for a sub-$1000 machine to the iPads. It'd also satisfy the crazy people who want less options and want simplifications of product lines.
The honest truth is Apple doesn't really care. They opted to sell college students outdated hardware at premium prices instead.
Probably is because I'm not interested at all in iMessage and iOS stuff, but I really remember the presentation as something weird.
Maybe it depends also the way which news are presented.
Apple really needed 40 minutes of demonstration about the news on iMessage?!
Or ten minutes of trying to convince the audience rapping all together?
It was about 10 minutes, not 40. They largely overhauled iMessage. They definitely needed time to demonstrate all it was capable of now. It has its own app store dedicated to it now, which is a big deal. They showed off payments via iMessage, collaborative food orders, new media sharing features, rich link previews, etc. It was quite a bit. iMessage is also, apparently, the most used app in iOS so it makes sense that they'd take some time to show off everything.
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Thank you for taking the time and trouble to write your helpful post. You have given me much food for thought.
Yes, 100% agree. You can't completely torpedo sales of your current gen for two months of your Holiday quarter.
I think you already know this.. Osborne, now called the Osborne Effect, people cancelled orders for Osborne 1 when the Osborne Executive was demoed
Is Skylake a game changer? - I thought it was just Intel's new processor compatable for Macs
Folks appear to give the impression that its a revelation......surely not?.....surely a tad faster but fan still kicks in when CPU is under pressure (which both surprises me and irks me- the fan that is)
I would get it if it said WaitingforSkylakeMBP primarily since the iMac and Macbook already have their variants lol.
I'm horrible with names. What's the company which makes those great macbook pros which haven't been updated for years...?
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When for Kaby Lake, that will be really a revelation.
looks like this thread needs renaming -
apple will skip 'Skylake' and install 'Kaby Lake' in the next rMbP
I always knew Tim had something very special under his sleeve. thanks @WRONG
From Variety...
"In fact, services revenue surpassed the amount of money Apple makes with selling Macs and Macbooks for the first time earlier this year. Some of this revenue includes subscription fees for Apple Music, and Apple’s increased focus on content and services has also led to increased investments into original content."
http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/tim-cook-interview-coming-out-iphone-content-1201837428/
Laptops and desktops are not bad business, but not profitable enough to deserve the attention they had five years ago. The App Store for Macs have been a failure so far, mostly due to the fact that developers don't need to pay 30% of sales by publishing their software outside of the Apple ecosystem.
"In fact, services revenue surpassed the amount of money Apple makes with selling Macs and Macbooks for the first time earlier this year. Some of this revenue includes subscription fees for Apple Music, and Apple’s increased focus on content and services has also led to increased investments into original content."
http://variety.com/2016/digital/news/tim-cook-interview-coming-out-iphone-content-1201837428/
Laptops and desktops are not bad business, but not profitable enough to deserve the attention they had five years ago. The App Store for Macs have been a failure so far, mostly due to the fact that developers don't need to pay 30% of sales by publishing their software outside of the Apple ecosystem.
I think the app store is 80 to 90%+ why folk stick with and upgrade their iPhones
Looking at the % pie chart iPhone is by far apples biggest revenue maker - therefore apps store is key
Steve knew this when he sunk $100,000,000 within 12 months of June 2007 in the "app store".
I have to respectfully disagree. Apples lineup hierarchy will not be: mbP -> mb -> mbP -> mbP. They will not have a "pro" branded machine on both ends of the spectrum. It reduces the effect that the pro branding has on the highest model. Think about it, if the entry level is pro too, why would anyone associate pro with a better computer. I think it kills the branding.
Edit: just realized that's what we have now, except a redesign sets them apart instead of just name. If the new mbp looks too much like the old rmbp they won't do what you described
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