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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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Dydegu said:
Get this back and forth bickering and negativity out of here.
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I'm posting all of these positively!
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If you nitpick someone's post via every single sentence, you're going to have a bad time.
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Second year waiting for new rMBP. Are we not in hell yet?
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If you're not bringing dank memes,
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I can't leave you without work. :(
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offering Kaby Lake speculation,
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They've opened a dedicated thread about it! Them bastards!
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or fueling @WRONG's alcoholism,
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My bad.
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we have no place for you.
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Care to elaborate? :p
[doublepost=1471549928][/doublepost]@Dydegu, overall... you see. 1000 pages won't write themselves. :)
 
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Ok, I'm totally confused by the last page of posts...

1) I'm under the impression there's only one iGPU called 580. Is that not true? Is there a separate Iris Pro P580 or IGP580 or whatever?

2) While we're at it, is it true the i7 6700 is the same as the i7 6770, but one has a 580 integrated graphics card and one without? If so, doesn't an i7 6700 count as basically the processor we're waiting for IF the laptop also includes a discrete GPU? I mean, it won't be as efficient but BASICALLY the same.
 
Exile714 said:
Ok, I'm totally confused by the last page of posts...

1) I'm under the impression there's only one iGPU called 580. Is that not true? Is there a separate Iris Pro P580 or IGP580 or whatever?

2) While we're at it, is it true the i7 6700 is the same as the i7 6770, but one has a 580 integrated graphics card and one without? If so, doesn't an i7 6700 count as basically the processor we're waiting for IF the laptop also includes a discrete GPU? I mean, it won't be as efficient but BASICALLY the same.
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1. Core i7-6770HQ, i7-6870HQ and i7-6970HQ include Iris Pro 580; Xeon E3-1515M, E3-1545M and E3-1575M (yes, these are mobile Xeons - direct counterparts of i7s mentioned earlier) include Iris Pro P580. So far no difference between Iris Pro 580 and Iris Pro P580 has been found. Their specs, capabilities, frequencies are quite the same. Core i7-6770HQ has only been seen in non-laptop so far - Intel Skull Canyon NUC. All the Xeons have been seen in laptops of major laptop manufacturers that have bigger market share than Apple - Dell, HP, Lenovo.

2. Previously Apple still used Iris Pro CPUs in top rMBP 15" with dGPU because the better iGPU is the more time you could go without spending battery power on a more hungry dGPU. There is nothing that says Apple will not do it again.
 
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It is wrong processor, it wont work for macbook, as been said on this site for last 500 pages.
 
Voley said:
It is wrong processor, it wont work for macbook, as been said on this site for last 500 pages.
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Technically it could and will work, but Apple is reluctant to use the 15W U-series processors that the Dell XPS uses for the 13" (Assuming we are talking about the 13" model) XPS.
 
Voley said:
It is wrong processor, it wont work for macbook, as been said on this site for last 500 pages.
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I know. They'd need to put a new processor through months of testing when it's already the longest the mainstream Apple notebook series has ever stagnated. Wasn't my point though, I don't mind the Pro being Skylake, but it's now become a race between two new laptops and which will come first!
 
killawat said:
Its gonna be neat to see everyone be friends again when the Macbook is announced in September


2017.
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Time for this gif again:

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porkchop9000 said:
I work with my computer. I spend money on a current premium computer so I can compete with other people in my industry.

The biggest issue is the Intel Graphics.

15" Macbook Pro available today.
Iris Pro Graphics 5200 -- 832 GFLOPS

Modern Intel Products.
Iris Pro Graphics 580 -- 1152 GLOPS.

Again, I fully understand and respect that you are fine with a computer just being a fashion statement, but I need to get some work done.
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The Skylake-H/Iris Pro 580 chips *just* came out. They'll be in a MBP shortly. Calm down.

If you're tethered to GPU performance, why do you not have a dGPU?

Sent from my 2011 MBP which I work on (in graphics mind you) every day.
 
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j1104638 said:
Nope, you referred both. Yeah, right. Xeons are much more expensive. :p https://i.imgur.com/B1L6QWg.png 55 $ for ECC RAM support and +100 MHz. And it has nothing to do with Apple's greed. Care to elaborate? That has no confirmation whatsoever and all other manufacturers going for Xeons will make Apple look weak. This has been already thoroughly discussed earlier in the thread. If only you participated. So stop whining please, discuss things calmly. All the manufacturers bigger than Apple ship them and for quite long. Obligatory de-stress your breasts.
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No, i didn't refer to both, i referred to one specific iGPU. You are wrong, if you would care to check out your facts, you would realize the laptops with IPGP580 are way more expensive. I couldn't find a 15" Lenovo offering IPGP580. But the Dell Precision does.

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If you take the base configuration of this laptop, and configure it to the lowest end IPGP580 and switch the ram to ECC the laptop goes from 2000 to 2400, and if I subtract the price difference between the 6820hq and 6770hq you would still end up with a profit margin of 350$. Now I cant say it won't happen, but i don't think it will happen. And if Apple were to introduce Xeon MBP this year, it wouldn't be the only alternative, so they would STILL be restricted by Intel not shipping the i7 GT4e chips yet. If you're replying pls be more informative.
"Care to elaborate?" -yeah, firt one i found, (google is a nice tool) http://christiandaily.com/article/macbook-pro-2016-rumors-new-pro-cheapest-apple-laptop/52004.htm
 
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Meldalinn said:
No, i was specifically referring to the IPG580 and that does not include IPGP580, nor any other iGPUs. And I don't believe Apple will start shipping Xeons, I have no reason to think so as it would make the Mac much more expensive. And as several reports have implied a price drop on the 2016MBP, I would call it an educated guess.
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Apple will use these, and I cant find any shipping laptop with these. That's why I'm sick off all the people whining and jumping ship because Apple don't care about computers. If no others ship these processors, don't expect Apple to. Calm your f*cking tits.
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^ THIS.

(I didn't bother posting this same thing again as I was basically called a liar because we don't *know* for sure Apple won't ship 6 month old Xeon processors, even though we pretty much know they won't).
 
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Meldalinn said:
No, i didn't refer to both, i referred to one specific iGPU. You are wrong, if you would care to check out your facts, you would realize the laptops with IPGP580 are way more expensive. I couldn't find a 15" Lenovo offering IPGP580. But the Dell Precision does.

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If you take the base configuration of this laptop, and configure it to the lowest end IPGP580 and switch the ram to ECC the laptop goes from 2000 to 2400, and if I subtract the price difference between the 6820hq and 6770hq you would still end up with a profit margin of 350$. Now I cant say it won't happen, but i don't think it will happen. And if Apple were to introduce Xeon MBP this year, it wouldn't be the only alternative, so they would STILL be restricted by Intel not shipping the i7 GT4e chips yet. If you're replying pls be more informative.
"Care to elaborate?" -yeah, firt one i found, (google is a nice tool) http://christiandaily.com/article/macbook-pro-2016-rumors-new-pro-cheapest-apple-laptop/52004.htm
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I don't like the link. It says the MacBook Pro is going to come in all pink as opposed to the previous colors of "gray, silver and gold". (Paraphrased). Anyway I felt like I was reading the tech Onion
 
Does anyone think there may be a dual core entry level 15" model, with a quad core higher end one?

I quite like the lineup proposed by a writer over at 9to5mac some months ago here:

The full range, then, would look like this:

  • Entry-level 12-inch MacBook
  • Exec-spec 12-inch MacBook
  • ‘Good’ 14-inch MacBook Pro
  • ‘Better’ 14-inch MacBook Pro (same spec as 16-inch model)
  • ‘Good’ 16-inch MacBook Pro
  • ‘Better’ 16-inch MacBook Pro
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Does anyone think there may be a dual core entry level 15" model, with a quad core higher end one?

I quite like the lineup proposed by a writer over at 9to5mac some months ago here:
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Possible but I doubt it. Clearly it seems they want the 15 inch to solely have quad core (I7) chips and the 13 inch as the dual core (I5) option.

If anything, I can see them dropping the discrete video card option on the 15 inch if they find that the intel graphics option good enough....if they stick with intel.
 
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Possible but I doubt it. Clearly it seems they want the 15 inch to solely have quad core (I7) chips and the 13 inch as the dual core (I5) option.

If anything, I can see them dropping the discrete video card option on the 15 inch if they find that the intel graphics option good enough....if they stick with intel.
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That's not how the i5 and i7 naming works, there are i7 dual cores (larger caches) and quad core i5's (no hyper-threading, larger thermal envelope than the dual-core models).
 
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If anything, I can see them dropping the discrete video card option on the 15 inch if they find that the intel graphics option good enough....if they stick with intel.
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That won't happen. They need The Juice™ to run 5k externals.

Now if they come out with eGPU TBD or separate eGPU entirely....no no that'll never happen.
 
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