What's the CPU performance difference between a 15W and 25W? That Stealth is somewhat enticing.
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What's the CPU performance difference between a 15W and 25W? That Stealth is somewhat enticing.
Is that not quite a weedy chip for such a high end laptop (15W, 2 cores, Intel HD iGPU)? With the gfx it's understandable that they want you to pair it with the Core eGPU, but for processing, why do Apple have such higher standards?
The Blade Stealth is their Ultrabook. The Razer Blade is their gaming laptop.
The Razerblade laptops got updated (for preorder), the alienware laptops were unveiled (at PAX), as well as the ASUS laptops, and the XPS laptops will be updated soon as well. Apple will come through next week or October... right...?
since the kaby lake is not such an improvement over skylake i hope Apple with an event in October for 1 hour at least, to announce the 13/15 Macbook pros, a maybe redesigned lighter and tinier mac mini, the iMac with ddr4/dGPu,2xTb3+2 usb-c gen 2 (or maybe all 4 tb3 since they have room for 2 alpine bridge inside the iMac) with only fusion drive and ssd and the long also waited mac pro upgrade...i really don't think Apple redesigned the Mac Pro just for 1 generation and hopely a new Thunderbolt display with AMD dGPU that can surpass the lower igpu for the upcoming macbook air+macbook+13"MBP+15"MBP(model without dGPU)
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OK, thanks. And welcome "Srb001" - it's too much to hope you're Serban right?
All the news about Kaby Lake so far suggests it will be an improvement for 4K video, but not much else. Since we're closing in on 900 pages and I need to do my part, if we were to get top-of-the-line skylake 15" MBPs with a dGPU, how much better would 4K performance be in a similarly equipped MBP with Kaby Lake
They did have a 15w Skylake SKU with Iris graphics, so I'd be surprised if they didn't release a Kaby Lake variant as well. Nothing announced yet though, so it wouldn't happen this fall that's for sure.
Well the 15 is gonna have a dGPU right? And those are probably locked in for a while, so I'd guess it wouldn't matter.
But for the 13" word is that Kaby Lake doesn't really do 4K better than Skylake, so much as it does it more efficiently. So less CPU utilization and thus less battery consumption. Otherwise, Kaby Lake is looking to be mostly just a spec bump (but a pretty good one) over Skylake, with no real IPC gains, but with up to 12% higher clock frequencies. Though I do wonder if the clock rate gains won't be as high for the chips already near 4GHz. So far we've only seen stuff in 2s to mid 3s GHz range.
Yes, and I had 4.0 in English; my professor suggested I major in it. She would've thrown some red ink on your usage of greedy in this context. Likewise with your incorrect usage of regards in place of regard, if you want to get pedantic.
The point is, Apple does what it does for a variety of reasons. You say greed, but a more accurate guess would be something like margins, supply chain, thermal profile, fail rates, user profiling, marketing, engineering, R&D... etc. A product is not greedy. A for-profit company is designed to make money for its owners; they are not a charity. TFT panels and 5400rpm drives will eventually go away as technology marches on. You don't have to buy those things if you don't want to, nobody is holding a gun to your head, especially Apple.
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False prophet.
Man, I don't even care anymore. This thread is fun to read. I'm just going to wait it out, buy a high-end 15" MBP whenever they update them. Apple has me by the nuts...er...stuck in their ecosystem anyway.
Kaby Lake again features like 30-40% GPU improvement, 12% CPU performance. In addition it does 4k in Hardware and native TB3. Not substantial? In my little world thats pretty big.
Apart from 4K, how significant updates are Skylake and Kaby Lake from the video editor's point of view? Or someone who works with VR productions? I googled this, but most articles only had a side note about this. And I think you guys know better and some will even love the opportunity to explain. What I'm trying to understand is how important of an update is this for creative professionals working with video, and if a lower spec Skylake / Kaby Lake MBP will even be better than a higher tier machine they sell right now.
Just bought and installed Raspbian OS on my raspberry pi 3 and it will help me to be able to hold off a little bit longer to wait for skylake.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-First-Kaby-Lake-Benchmarks-leaked.171693.0.html
HD Graphics 620, 7500U vs HD Graphics 520, 6500U
OpenGL 64Bit
20% improvement
1280x720 Cloud Gate Standard Graphics
11% improvement
1280x720 Cloud Gate Standard Score
29% improvement
1280x720 Ice Storm Standard Graphics
47% improvement
3DMark 11 - 1280x720 Performance GPU
30% improvement
"If you believe these benchmarks, the integrated GPU Intel HD Graphics of the upcoming CPU generation "Kaby Lake" could see a performance improvement of up to 50 % and more depending on the benchmark compared to the current HD Graphics 520."
I couldn't control my need to buy something, so I bought an Intel nuc (i7-6770) with 32gb ram and two 500gb Ssd drives. I'm installing Linux atm. 1000€ for the whole setup.
10% - 50% increase CPU/gpu performance is heaps good. I don't know why people claim Intel is stagnating or how kaby isn't a upgrade
The problem is always the same.
Kaby Lake will be an upgrade for consumes and GPU performance, but
appropriated Kaby Lake CPUs for the MacBook Pro won't came up until at least mid 2017 (heck, some quadcore are not even listed!)
Bad luck is, Kaby Lake MacBook Pro will use iGPU 680.
Kaby Lake will be an upgrade for consumes and GPU performance, but
appropriated Kaby Lake CPUs for the MacBook Pro won't came up until at least mid 2017 (heck, some quadcore are not even listed!)
Bad luck is, Kaby Lake MacBook Pro will use iGPU 680.
If i was to get a 30-40% raise each year i would call that pretty good.
Thats what Intel has been increasing the integrated GPU since Sandy Or Ivy Bridge.
Thats what Intel has been increasing the integrated GPU since Sandy Or Ivy Bridge.
Keyboarding - I think this was discussed hundreds of pages back, but last I checked, rumors pointed toward the next Macbook Pro using the "butterfly mechanism" keyboard as seen with the current Macbook. Has anyone here developed an opinion on that keyboard from sustained use of a Macbook? I have not used it for more than a couple of seconds, but people I trust say it is a disaster for "Pro" typists (esp., writers of longform text.) If the Whatever-Lake Macbook Pro uses that "reimagined" keyboard, it might be a deal-breaker. It's that important to me.
My valiant early-2011 15" MBP will be sent to a loving family on a beautiful farm in the country soon. I definitely need a post-2011 Pro device for certain key tasks, but maybe I'll be perfectly happy with an "old" keyboard on a high end edition of the current model with a presumed post-Skylake discount?
Anyway, my real question is, for writers, how bad is the most innovative keyboard ever?
My valiant early-2011 15" MBP will be sent to a loving family on a beautiful farm in the country soon. I definitely need a post-2011 Pro device for certain key tasks, but maybe I'll be perfectly happy with an "old" keyboard on a high end edition of the current model with a presumed post-Skylake discount?
Anyway, my real question is, for writers, how bad is the most innovative keyboard ever?
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