The 15 was updated first for the retina update. Of course the 13 was updated first for the force touch.
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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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Even after Mark Gurman reported that 2016 MBPs are narrower and a tiny bit smaller than what we currently have now, meaning smaller bezel, not screen size increase. If they were to increase it they would have kept the dimensions of the chasis the same. Mark still calls them 13" and 15". No reputable source has suggested 14 and 16", not a SINGLE one. The rumor started here and it still won't f****** die. Can't wait to see that rumor crash and burn on October. Definitely looking forward to it.
They didn't skip it. The Skylake chips they'll use are likely ones that have barely seen the light of day and aren't in any shipping laptops yet (just the Intel NUC). If they pull a quad core Kaby Lake MBP out of a hat this fall, I will eat my 2011MBP.
They could stuff a 12" screen in an 11" chasis just because of the disgustingly large bezel that thing has. That's the pretty little detail everyone conveniently leaves out. Current rMBPs don't have the same amount of bezel, and with the chasis being narrower this year, the chance a 14" and 16" option is null.
That is a fair point but I suspect the relative sales have shifted since mid-2012 and that the focus of a redesign would be on the most popular model. But I hope all this discussion is moot and they are both updated together.
You're probably right. I've been using a 13" 2012 cMBP so the bezel here is large. I forget that they shrunk it with retina. Wow, the fragmentation in their product line will get even more confusing. Curious to see how they sort it out.
Don't worry. Apple is all about margin these days. They'll sell you what others are selling for 4 month now, just with an OLED bar.
I'll be watching NVIDIA based Laptops closely.
Consider thar whatever is released in October will (again) not see any updates for the next three years.
You underestimate our power.
Just posting this to get us close to 1000 pages !!!!
j/k
I just though of something, what about:::
Apple Event mid Oct
New Kaby lake (yes i know i don't think they will be kaby lake but go with it, its a three day holiday over here. grab a beer and ponder this.) ANNOUNCED
It ships "late" Nov.
Which really means mid Dec.
Which is "only" 2 weeks away from Jan, when Kaby lake could ship to an Intel preferred partner like APPLE.
So therefore i.e. your honor i present.....
KABY LAKE MACBOOK PROS ANNOUNCED MID OCT
ok.
I just woke up now. forgive my dreaming.
j/k
I just though of something, what about:::
Apple Event mid Oct
New Kaby lake (yes i know i don't think they will be kaby lake but go with it, its a three day holiday over here. grab a beer and ponder this.) ANNOUNCED
It ships "late" Nov.
Which really means mid Dec.
Which is "only" 2 weeks away from Jan, when Kaby lake could ship to an Intel preferred partner like APPLE.
So therefore i.e. your honor i present.....
KABY LAKE MACBOOK PROS ANNOUNCED MID OCT
ok.
I just woke up now. forgive my dreaming.
I had the exact same dream man! But in mine they introduced the new MacBook Pros with CannonLake CPU's and Tim apologised for the 3 neglected years of upgrades with a CPU that officially releases in 2 Years!
Ok j/k I just wanted to bring this thread closer to 900 pages
"So, which processor?
The days of Apple getting the first shipments of a new processor are well behind it. We have little faith that Apple will be the first vendor to supply a Kaby Lake desktop repacement laptop. That leaves only Skylake available for a September release, unless CEO Tim Cook has something up his sleeve.
While it is accurate that the first quad-core Skylake processors suitable for a MacBook Pro have only recently started shipping, there were other options before the April release of that particular model. A laptop Xeon processor was available in January, which could have been used, which met all the criteria that "power users" demand from the hardware -- but Apple chose to not use it.
Compounding the problem of a long update period, the forthcoming Kaby Lake S-series has significant features that would be great to have in a refreshed MacBook Pro. Full, native support for Thunderbolt 3, and full speed USB 3.1 Generation 2 are big, but given Apple's inclusion of integrated graphics in the MacBook Pro, the improvements that Kaby Lake will have would be greatly welcomed.
From a benchmark perspective, the 2012 Retina MacBook Pro with a 2.3 GHz i7 processor is only slightly behind the 2.2GHz i7 mid-2015 Retina MacBook Pro. That isn't Apple's fault, though -- Intel's delivered their end of the bargain with new processors, but the new silicon hasn't been that compelling from a sheer speed point of view.
The last few iterations of Intel chips have seen only slight increases in performance, most in battery life. Apple's battery technology and control over the hardware has mitigated the negative marketplace effect of not moving to a newer processor in the interest of long battery life, but that time is soon to be over.
Apple is bleeding Mac users, mostly from the content producing side from lack of updates because of the infrequent updates. The loss and overall market perception of the Mac lines for professionals has gotten so bad, that HP's line of workstations was promoted with a network access function to allow macOS users left in the dust to do "heavy lifting" remotely.
It's well past time for Apple to update. Cook and company can't wait for Kaby Lake if it wants to retain the "pro" user cadre, but it may already be too late."
The days of Apple getting the first shipments of a new processor are well behind it. We have little faith that Apple will be the first vendor to supply a Kaby Lake desktop repacement laptop. That leaves only Skylake available for a September release, unless CEO Tim Cook has something up his sleeve.
While it is accurate that the first quad-core Skylake processors suitable for a MacBook Pro have only recently started shipping, there were other options before the April release of that particular model. A laptop Xeon processor was available in January, which could have been used, which met all the criteria that "power users" demand from the hardware -- but Apple chose to not use it.
Compounding the problem of a long update period, the forthcoming Kaby Lake S-series has significant features that would be great to have in a refreshed MacBook Pro. Full, native support for Thunderbolt 3, and full speed USB 3.1 Generation 2 are big, but given Apple's inclusion of integrated graphics in the MacBook Pro, the improvements that Kaby Lake will have would be greatly welcomed.
From a benchmark perspective, the 2012 Retina MacBook Pro with a 2.3 GHz i7 processor is only slightly behind the 2.2GHz i7 mid-2015 Retina MacBook Pro. That isn't Apple's fault, though -- Intel's delivered their end of the bargain with new processors, but the new silicon hasn't been that compelling from a sheer speed point of view.
The last few iterations of Intel chips have seen only slight increases in performance, most in battery life. Apple's battery technology and control over the hardware has mitigated the negative marketplace effect of not moving to a newer processor in the interest of long battery life, but that time is soon to be over.
Apple is bleeding Mac users, mostly from the content producing side from lack of updates because of the infrequent updates. The loss and overall market perception of the Mac lines for professionals has gotten so bad, that HP's line of workstations was promoted with a network access function to allow macOS users left in the dust to do "heavy lifting" remotely.
It's well past time for Apple to update. Cook and company can't wait for Kaby Lake if it wants to retain the "pro" user cadre, but it may already be too late."
Did you read the notebookcheck review?
Looks like Kaby Lake is a pretty significant update to me.
Quite a bit bigger than the skylake update was.
You might want to link the article from AppleInsider where the whole thing's from: http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/09/03/inside-the-2016-macbook-pro----cpu-choices
I own a rmb unfortunately.
I don't have any issue with the keyboard.
But I'm not a writer.
It's longevity is questionable though. Lots of reports..
Lots of other things I do have issues with...
What I figured is that they would use exactly the same keyboard in the new mbp as the new wireless keyboard.
It has more travel but same basic design.
I think it will be perfect.
On another related note the track pad.
If they increase the size of it like the rmb you will hit it by accident all the damn time causing the cursor to jump and you typing where you don't intend.
maybe this will occur on the 13" because the 15" will have more room for palm resting
Do we want to get 900 pages or do we want to get new MBPs? Sometimes I get the impression that most of us just want to keep this thread going
900 pages. Congrats everyone. We are now ready for the September 2016 meltdown.
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