Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

[Dydegu]

Keyboarding - I think this was discussed hundreds of pages back, but last I checked, rumors pointed toward the next Macbook Pro using the "butterfly mechanism" keyboard as seen with the current Macbook. Has anyone here developed an opinion on that keyboard from sustained use of a Macbook? I have not used it for more than a couple of seconds, but people I trust say it is a disaster for "Pro" typists (esp., writers of longform text.) If the Whatever-Lake Macbook Pro uses that "reimagined" keyboard, it might be a deal-breaker. It's that important to me.

My valiant early-2011 15" MBP will be sent to a loving family on a beautiful farm in the country soon. I definitely need a post-2011 Pro device for certain key tasks, but maybe I'll be perfectly happy with an "old" keyboard on a high end edition of the current model with a presumed post-Skylake discount?

Anyway, my real question is, for writers, how bad is the most innovative keyboard ever?

People have to remember that the MB is an ultraportable machine. It comes with compromises. They wanted a thin 2 pound notebook, so they had to invent a new keyboard technology. The good part is that you can strike the key anywhere (like the trackpads) but the bad news is you don't have a lot of key travel, so it takes some time to get used to it, from what I've heard.

I don't own a MB and have only typed on it in the Apple store, so I can't comment on its every day use. However, Apple has more room in the MBP, so they have no reason to squeeze a keyboard in like that. Hopefully we get the butterfly mechanism (strike the key anywhere), larger keys, and individual LEDs, but with more travel. It should be a pretty amazing keyboard.

 

[mjs402]

Keyboarding - I think this was discussed hundreds of pages back, but last I checked, rumors pointed toward the next Macbook Pro using the "butterfly mechanism" keyboard as seen with the current Macbook. Has anyone here developed an opinion on that keyboard from sustained use of a Macbook? I have not used it for more than a couple of seconds, but people I trust say it is a disaster for "Pro" typists (esp., writers of longform text.) If the Whatever-Lake Macbook Pro uses that "reimagined" keyboard, it might be a deal-breaker. It's that important to me.

My valiant early-2011 15" MBP will be sent to a loving family on a beautiful farm in the country soon. I definitely need a post-2011 Pro device for certain key tasks, but maybe I'll be perfectly happy with an "old" keyboard on a high end edition of the current model with a presumed post-Skylake discount?

Anyway, my real question is, for writers, how bad is the most innovative keyboard ever?

Honestly, I love it. It was "different" for the first 2 days but after that, it was fine. You learn to adjust how far you need to press in and now typing on the rMBP or MacBook Air feels mushy and bla. The Magic Keyboard 2 also has a very nice keyboard, but I prefer the 12-inch MacBook keyboard personally.

 

[t0mat0]

I guess current news shows that creating a thread for a device 2 CPU generations away isn't so crazy after all hehe.
Apple must have had some big reasons to skip Skylake. A big hit to take silently for Apple, to not drop Intel in it (if this was the reason).
So will the thread reach 1,000 before Apple kills it off by demoing Kaby Lake Macs?

 

[pjs06c]

Keyboarding - I think this was discussed hundreds of pages back, but last I checked, rumors pointed toward the next Macbook Pro using the "butterfly mechanism" keyboard as seen with the current Macbook. Has anyone here developed an opinion on that keyboard from sustained use of a Macbook? I have not used it for more than a couple of seconds, but people I trust say it is a disaster for "Pro" typists (esp., writers of longform text.) If the Whatever-Lake Macbook Pro uses that "reimagined" keyboard, it might be a deal-breaker. It's that important to me.

My valiant early-2011 15" MBP will be sent to a loving family on a beautiful farm in the country soon. I definitely need a post-2011 Pro device for certain key tasks, but maybe I'll be perfectly happy with an "old" keyboard on a high end edition of the current model with a presumed post-Skylake discount?

Anyway, my real question is, for writers, how bad is the most innovative keyboard ever?

I bought a rMB a few months back, use it consistently for work and I'm working on a novel in what little free time I have left, so I do plenty of typing on it.

The keyboard took a few days to get used to (gotta learn the new spacing and layout) but after that I had zero problems typing. Trying it out in a store won't give you the trust or familiarity you gain after spending more time with it. Honestly, I really like it. It's precise and not the "bang my fingers on the desk" experience" that others have mentioned. I cracked open my MBA a week ago to try typing again on that and the keys felt too "floaty."

So I don't think the butterfly mechanism is anything to worry about, if the next Macbook Pro has it people will adjust and become accommodated with it and the old keys will become a thing of the past...

 

[ManhattanProject]

I personally want them to use the rMB 12" keyboard on the 2016 MBP. The more space they have for the internal components the better, and oh boy will they need every possible mm of internal space considering how thin they want it to be.

 

[lympero]

why not hackintosh?

Currently im installing Windows/Linux combo and the plan is to also install El Capitan but I'm kinda new to the whole hackintosh thing and I'm afraid to do it atm

 

[SHuisman]

Hitting a 1000 before wednesday (red lines) will be tricky, but October is possible...

 

[Ries]

It'll properly hit a 1000 at the start of the event, just after Tim announces how many watch bands they sold last year.

 

[Voley]

So we've been expecting macbook pro since at least march, and nothing, but now out of the ****ing blue everyone is - look apple watch sold out, they will show phone and watch and nothing else.

I'm ****ing pissed.

 

[GZR]

For some reason I have a gut feeling that Apple will only unveil the 13" and the 15" won't be available until next year

 

[Cindori]

For some reason I have a gut feeling that Apple will only unveil the 13" and the 15" won't be available until next year

If you look at actual facts (hardware availability) it's more likely to be the other way around.

 

[navaira]

Honestly, I love it. It was "different" for the first 2 days but after that, it was fine. You learn to adjust how far you need to press in and now typing on the rMBP or MacBook Air feels mushy and bla. The Magic Keyboard 2 also has a very nice keyboard, but I prefer the 12-inch MacBook keyboard personally.

This actually sorta worries me because if I hypothetically got used to it, I wouldn't know what to use for my desktop... I have a Microsoft Sculpt at the moment which is similar to the MBP keyboard with perhaps a tiiiiny bit less travel and maybe a bit softer. Nowhere near the MB keyboard.

Do you think a Skylake Watch Band Pro is coming on September 7?

 

[GZR]

If you look at actual facts (hardware availability) it's more likely to be the other way around.

Could you expound on this? I thought Intel CPUs would be the limiting factor with the quad core CPUs with Iris Pro being unavailable.

 

[geachy92]

If you look at actual facts (hardware availability) it's more likely to be the other way around.

How do you figure? Only asking as the Skylake chips that are expected to be used are much more prevalent for the 13" variety than the 15". Or are you referring to another piece of hardware?

 

[ThisBougieLife]

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Hitting a 1000 before wednesday (red lines) will be tricky, but October is possible...

I don't think we'll get 1000 by Wednesday, but I'd like to see at least 930 by the end of the event. I think that's feasible.

 

[augustya]

For some reason I have a gut feeling that Apple will only unveil the 13" and the 15" won't be available until next year

The chip required to go into the 15" rMBP are already there so don't see any reason why Apple would not release it now !

 

[Srb001]

The mbp are coming this year, so nothing to worry about.They are just waiting for MacOS Sierra to be ready as well since they need it for the upcoming hardware.

 

[augustya]

The mbp are coming this year, so nothing to worry about.They are just waiting for MacOS Sierra to be ready as well since they need it for the upcoming hardware.

Yeah regardless of what anyone says this year we will see the Skylake equipped rMBP 13"&15"

 

[Srb001]

Yeah regardless of what anyone says this year we will see the Skylake equipped rMBP 13"&15"

of course, we want the most powerful mobile cpu and igpu not the upcoming kaby lake cpu

 

[eroslws]

On a semi-related note, I wish they would just simplify the lines across products by stopping all the number schemes. People no longer update on a yearly basis anyway and we all know the iPad Pro models are not particularly more capable than the Air unless they have something up their sleeve.

Macbook (12")
Macbook Air (14", former 13" rMBP)
Macbook Pro ((16", former 15" rMBP)

iPhone (4", former SE)
iPhone Air (4.7")
iPhone Pro (5.5")

iPad (7.9", former mini)
iPad Air (9.7", former Pro)
iPad Pro (12.9")

 

[Loge]

If you look at actual facts (hardware availability) it's more likely to be the other way around.

The 13" sells far more than the 15" (unconfirmed obvs, but most likely) and therefore is more likely to be updated first, this is what happened with the 15" over the 17" in 2008.

But given the lack of updates, they really need to do both together.

 

[benface]

On a semi-related note, I wish they would just simplify the lines across products by stopping all the number schemes. People no longer update on a yearly basis anyway and we all know the iPad Pro models are not particularly more capable than the Air unless they have something up their sleeve.

Macbook (12")
Macbook Air (14", former 13" rMBP)
Macbook Pro ((16", former 15" rMBP)

iPhone (4", former SE)
iPhone Air (4.7")
iPhone Pro (5.5")

iPad (7.9", former mini)
iPad Air (9.7", former Pro)
iPad Pro (12.9")

But "Air" doesn't make sense for devices that are larger and not thinner than the base model.

EDIT: Also no way they're gonna rename the iPad Mini simply "iPad", that would be confusing as ****.

EDIT 2: I see it more like this...

Macbook (12")
Macbook Pro (14" and 16")

iPhone Mini (4")
iPhone (4.7")
iPhone Pro (5.5")

iPad Mini (7.9")
iPad (9.7")
iPad Pro (12.9")

 

[Loge]

Macbook Pro (14" and 16")

It's going to be 13" and 15" people. I don't know where these 14" and 16" suggestions are coming from, but if you have a credible source, please share.

 

[eroslws]

But "Air" doesn't make sense for devices that are larger and not thinner than the base model.

EDIT: Also no way they're gonna rename the iPad Mini simply "iPad", that would be confusing as ****.

EDIT 2: I see it more like this...

Macbook (12")
Macbook Pro (14" and 16")

iPhone Mini (4")
iPhone (4.7")
iPhone Pro (5.5")

iPad Mini (7.9")
iPad (9.7")
iPad Pro (12.9")

Yeah, that would be fine too; I didn't really put much thought into it and both our solutions were still better than the map Apple has right now.
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It's going to be 13" and 15" people. I don't know where these 14" and 16" suggestions are coming from, but if you have a credible source, please share.

Based on bezel shrinking; the 12" MB fits in an 11" body, etc.

 

[Bo15]

Sky vs Kaby article.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/09/03/inside-the-2016-macbook-pro----cpu-choices