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I think it is only Americans who don't say 'Aluminium'...... Perhap Canadians also?

Regarding the Surface Pro 4 [and 5 when launched] - if MS ever sort out the poor scaling issue of Win10 then I would seriously consider it. Fantastic hardware and equal to Apple [took MS long enough to get there though].
That because that's how it's spelled in North America according to Wikipedia which would include Canada and the US.
 
Waiting a day or three could result in having to wait an additional month or two before it ships, since the original retinas sold out as quickly and didn't have the pent up demand these ones do. I will buy on day one, if it sucks, catches fire or blows up i'll just bring it back to the store.

:D
Good to know.
Now I don't know if I want to wait a little bit more or not...

Wut. i sincerely hope you're wrong.
He can't be wrong. I am.

According Gurman, so the upgrade to macbook pro and air. He is not wrong
Of course he is not wrong.
I am.
Stop it already!
*Aluminium

It wouldn't be the same if Jony Ive didn't pronounce it as such.

True that.
I must say, I really love Jony voice. So sexy.
"Aluminium"
 
Sorry, I'm partially wrong. I don't think the M 370X is slower in most games or benchmarks, but it isn't too much quicker than Iris Pro 580.
Wait are you saying the Iris pro 580 is better than the m370x or worse?
 
Is it pretty much confirmed that if there is a Skylake refresh that they would use the iris pro 580 as the igpu?

YES, at the very least it was once a possibility. Intel GFX drivers (including Iris and Iris Pro 580) have been found in Mac OS (10.11.4) since March of this year discovered by hackintosh celebrity/demigod @Pike R. Alpha .

AppleIntelGraphicsFramebuffer.sh v3.2 Copyright (c) 2012-2016 by Pike R. Alpha
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The supported platformIDs are:

[ 1] 0x191e0000 - Intel® HD Graphics 515..........(ULX GT2)
[ 2] 0x19160000 - Intel® HD Graphics 520..........(ULT GT2)
[ 3] 0x19260000 - Intel® Iris™ Graphics 550.......(ULT GT3)
[ 4] 0x191b0000 - Intel® HD Graphics 530..........(Halo GT2)
[ 5] 0x193b0000 - Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 580...(Halo GT4)
[ 6] 0x19120000 - Intel® HD Graphics 530..........(Desktop GT2)
[ 7] 0x19020001 - Intel® HD Graphics 510..........(Desktop GT1)
[ 8] 0x19170001 - Skylake Desktop.................(GT1.5)
[ 9] 0x19120001 - Intel® HD Graphics 530..........(Desktop GT2)
[10] 0x19320001 - Skylake Desktop.................(GT4)
[11] 0x19160002 - Intel® HD Graphics 520..........(ULT GT2)
[12] 0x19260002 - Intel® Iris™ Graphics 540.......(ULT GT3)
[13] 0x191e0003 - Intel® HD Graphics 515..........(ULX GT2)
[14] 0x19260004 - Intel® Iris™ Graphics 540.......(ULT GT3)
[15] 0x193b0005 - Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 580...(Halo GT4)
[16] 0x193b0006 - Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 580...(Halo GT4)
 
Is it just me, or are the BTO shipping times a little high on the MBPs and MBAs?

Code:
Order today, delivers:
22 Sep - 26 Sep – Fastest
26 Sep - 28 Sep – Free

That's delivery in 10 days.
Delivery.
Aka shipping in like 5 days.
How is that high?
 
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Is it just me, or are the BTO shipping times a little high on the MBPs and MBAs?

Code:
Order today, delivers:
22 Sep - 26 Sep – Fastest
26 Sep - 28 Sep – Free

BTO shipping times slipped to 3-4+ weeks before the mid 2015 refresh.... 10 days is nothing when you account for processing and the weekend.
 
Sorry, I'm partially wrong.
You can't be. I am totally wrong.
I don't think the M 370X is slower in most games or benchmarks, but it isn't too much quicker than Iris Pro 580.
I'm too lazy to search, but benchmarks and reviews showed how Iris Pro is better than M370X (it's not too difficult, considering how crappy it is).

Is it pretty much confirmed that if there is a Skylake refresh that they would use the iris pro 580 as the igpu?
For the 15", yes. 100%.
It is the one and only reason we are still waiting here, and Skylake MBP are not yet released.
Apple always used the HQ series of CPUs, which have the Iris Pro GPU.

And related...
No one knows what we're getting. Whether Skylake or Kaby Lake. Though if it is Skylake, Iris Pro 580 on the 6770HQ, 6870HQ and 6970HQ are very likely.

WE WON'T GET KABY LAKE.
KABY LAKE MBP-SUITED DON'T EXIST. THEY ARE NOT EVEN LISTED.
APPROPRIATE SKYLAKE CPUS FOR MBP ARE ALMOST NEW, EVEN IF A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE "OLD".
THEY ARE NOT.

Sorry for screaming, it's the booze.
I'll go to bed.
 
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