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does that mean they still haven't finalised the design of future mbp?? prepare to wait other 6 months :(

My take on that survey was that they are preparing marketing materials and want to know where the pain points will be for current MBP users, and thus which ones should be addressed in the press event and advertisements.

Even if they're not releasing until 2017 (which, come on guys, there's not a single rumor to support 2017 and several good sources saying 2016), the next MBP is pretty much set in stone. Redesigns take over a year, and there's no way the next one wasn't settled on many months ago.
 
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My take on that survey was that they are preparing marketing materials and want to know where the pain points will be for current MBP users, and thus which ones should be addressed in the press event and advertisements.
Surely the word "courage" should be enough.

Why did we remove MagSafe? Because we have courage, and do not fear our dog will pull the laptop off the table.
Why did we remove microSD? Because we have courage, and do not fear that a bunch of angry photographers will come over to burn our houses.
Why did we remove all other old ports? Because we have courage, and you can't make a brand new Macbook Pro without breaking a few legs. Eggs. I meant eggs.
Why did we remove headphone jack? Because we have a whole new range of Beats and AirPods now available at Apple Don't Call Them Stores Experiences around the world and those babies won't sell themselves if you follow my drift! And for those, who want to stick with the antiquated experience... that's sad... but you can buy a dongle. Like monkeys.
Why did we remove the function keys? Because we have courage, and we... and we... we can't innovate, my ass!
 
Surely the word "courage" should be enough.

The wait for this macbook has been so long that - I am now even contemplating the new Alienware 15 that is due to come out *lol*

On a side note, XPS 13 (Kabylake) has now been released and available to buy in UK. Noteworthy changes are that it has a larger battery with a claimed up to 22 hours on FHD battery life - and what seems to be a much more improved wi-fi card.
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does that mean they still haven't finalised the design of future mbp?? prepare to wait other 6 months :(
Apple doesn't care so much what consumers want - they have a vision and tell consumers that this is what they want.

This isn't a dig at apple in anyway by the way - most people think they know what they want - but aren't always right.
 
If it stated it was a 15w cpu in big letters then yes, it would be odd not to confuse it, but as far as I can see there is no mention of the wattage therefore an easy mistake.

Most people don't know the different names of the chips and what they stand for. I certainly don't.

Perhaps the lesson here is that it's best not to make comments on topics one knows nothing about. But then again, this is the Internet.
 
Just wanted to give a shout out to all the people here who have very outdated macs. The only modern computer in our house is a 2009 MBP, which still runs great, but I would give anything to have even a 2012 retina. I've lasted this long with iPads and laptops from work (Horrible HP machines) but the time has come.

Unfortunately, my wife is currently on strike so I couldn't buy a new MBP even if they came out with one. I'm hoping the strike gets resolved the moment they come out with a new version.
 
If Apple doesn't introduce the new MBP's in October im gonna buy the refreshed Dell XPS. Or so I'm saying, this feels like an abusive relationship with the new MBP's
 
So does Apple typically offer any form of student discounts on new MacBooks typically, i.e. $50 off?
The new rMB has exactly that - $50 off in the edu-store.
Probably very varying on location. In Sweden students with a certain student card has 10% on almost all Apple products.
 
So your response to a guy saying "show me a mfg currently shipping a high-end 45W skylake chip" is that dell has started shipping a low-end 15W kaby lake chip?

/whatisthisidon'teven
Well, you could get high end skylake+iris pro in a Thinkpad P70 or Precision 7710, but those are much larger than ultrabooks
 
"launched" ... I don't think Intel knows what that really means to the rest of the world. According to them the 45W Skylakes w/ 580 Pro were 'launched' in Q1 of this year. Show me ONE manufacturer selling a laptop with that CPU.

There really aren't any machines with the i7-6770HQ, except for the Skull Canyon NUC. That's pretty crazy. This fact should silence the Kaby Lakers since we'd be getting the first laptop with those processors. The behind the times argument doesn't hold any weight there.

They just refreshed the Dell XPS 13. Do we think they will refresh the 15 with better processors? It looks like they give you a dGPU on most 15 models so upping to a higher end Skylake chip with Iris Pro might not make as much sense?
 
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Well, you could get high end skylake+iris pro in a Thinkpad P70 or Precision 7710, but those are much larger than ultrabooks

Those are the Xeon procs (and those two models START at $4k AFTER discount when using the P580 based procs). We're expecting the i7-6*70HQ models in the 15" pro. Which were "released" in Q1 but don't exist outside of Intel's own NUCs.
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There really aren't any machines with the i7-6770HQ, except for the Skull Canyon NUC. That's pretty crazy. This fact should silence the Kaby Lakers since we'd be getting the first laptop with those processors. The behind the times argument doesn't hold any weight there.

They just refreshed the Dell XPS 13. Do we think they will refresh the 15 with better processors? It looks like they give you a dGPU on most 15 models so upping to a higher end Skylake chip with Iris Pro might not make as much sense?

You still need the higher end iGPU to get longer battery life. The premise being that the dGPU is only engaged when you're doing GPU intensive tasks (and generally can be plugged in during those times). You won't want to run on a dGPU when all you're doing is surfing youtube/netflix.
 
Genuinely curious - What's the most you're willing to spend on your MacBook Pro, and how many years do you expect to keep it?
 
There really aren't any machines with the i7-6770HQ, except for the Skull Canyon NUC. That's pretty crazy. This fact should silence the Kaby Lakers since we'd be getting the first laptop with those processors. The behind the times argument doesn't hold any weight there.

They just refreshed the Dell XPS 13. Do we think they will refresh the 15 with better processors? It looks like they give you a dGPU on most 15 models so upping to a higher end Skylake chip with Iris Pro might not make as much sense?

I don't think the XPS 15 is likely to get refreshed until they have supply of GTX 1050 processors (unless they jumped ship to AMD).
 
Genuinely curious - What's the most you're willing to spend on your MacBook Pro, and how many years do you expect to keep it?

After student discount, expecting to pay around £1200-£1500, but depending on the offering, will be willing to part with £2000. Would like to keep it minimum 2 years.
 
Unfortunately, my wife is currently on strike so I couldn't buy a new MBP even if they came out with one. I'm hoping the strike gets resolved the moment they come out with a new version.

lol, why is your wife on strike? This is the most interesting development in this thread in a while.

Genuinely curious - What's the most you're willing to spend on your MacBook Pro, and how many years do you expect to keep it?

$1500 after EDU discount. Four, although this one has lasted six...
 
Genuinely curious - What's the most you're willing to spend on your MacBook Pro, and how many years do you expect to keep it?

Canadian dollars here, so its a bit higher than USD
The top model (base config) goes for 3049 + 13% tax ~ $3,500 (thats about $2,700 USD).

I'll wait and see what the dGPU is in the high-end model. May not require it (but I've waited so long for Polaris!)...

If there is a decent eGPU, I'd go lower end model, with 512GB PCI-e flash and be done with the dedicated GPU.
 
The new rMB has exactly that - $50 off in the edu-store.
Probably very varying on location. In Sweden students with a certain student card has 10% on almost all Apple products.
I should've been more specific, I meant new MacBook Pro's.

Genuinely curious - What's the most you're willing to spend on your MacBook Pro, and how many years do you expect to keep it?
Probably $1800 or so, definitely no more than $2000. I expect 5 years minimum.
 
I should've been more specific, I meant new MacBook Pro's.


Probably $1800 or so, definitely no more than $2000. I expect 5 years minimum.

I'm in the same boat. $2000 is probably my max. I've never spend more than $1,500 on a computer but times are changing and prices are going up. I've had my current 2010 13" MBP for 6 years. So amortizing $2,000 over 5 years isn't too bad.
 
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