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How are they not related? Lol! Civ is my favorite game. My last PC was built specifically for the Civ V launch heh so if both actually were to be released on the same day that would be a very good day indeed ;)


I'll never forget when the 13" retina came out, Schiller bragged that Civ V looked gorgeous at retina resolution.

With that HD 4000? Sure, Phil, maybe to the year 1!

But it would be pretty neat if they invited Aspyr to the stage (they just celebrated their 20th) to show off the game on the new MBP.
 
I'll never forget when the 13" retina came out, Schiller bragged that Civ V looked gorgeous at retina resolution.

With that HD 4000? Sure, Phil, maybe to the year 1!

But it would be pretty neat if they invited Aspyr to the stage (they just celebrated their 20th) to show off the game on the new MBP.

What's curious is that the system requirements for windows & mac for Civ VI hasn't been released yet (according to the steampage).
 
15W macbook pro is not something many people would like.
What's the point if they have Macbook?
 
15W macbook pro is not something many people would like.
What's the point if they have Macbook?

I don't think apple would switch to 15.
but most people wouldn't know the difference if they did. the 13" pro would replace the air in this case
 
maybe they would place a 15W cpu on the entry level 13''...

and the 28w option for the mid tier's and custom i7 upgrade options...
 
Hmmm...

$3799 AUD for MacBook Pro 15" with i7 4th gen and an R9 M370x...

$2999 AUD for Razer Blade 14" with i7 6th gen and a full fledged GTX 1060...

Both have high res displays, fast storage, good quality KB, well built chassis, fan noise and temps, speakers..

The Razer has USB-C and an actual eGPU box that's actually supported by their company since even Razer has the slightest interests in their consumers.. Also has a RGB keyboard if that fancies anyones pickle and costs $800 AUD less.. I'd also argue that the GTX 1060 is adleast 400~500% stronger then Macs current R9 M370x.
 
Hmmm...

$3799 AUD for MacBook Pro 15" with i7 4th gen and an R9 M370x...

$2999 AUD for Razer Blade 14" with i7 6th gen and a full fledged GTX 1060...

Both have high res displays, fast storage, good quality KB, well built chassis, fan noise and temps, speakers..

The Razer has USB-C and an actual eGPU box that's actually supported by their company since even Razer has the slightest interests in their consumers.. Also has a RGB keyboard if that fancies anyones pickle and costs $800 AUD less.. I'd also argue that the GTX 1060 is adleast 400~500% stronger then Macs current R9 M370x.



I've been looking at the Razer blade recently but my only concern is the trackpad. Has anyone used one? If so how does it compare to a MBP trackpad?
 
I've been looking at the Razer blade recently but my only concern is the trackpad. Has anyone used one? If so how does it compare to a MBP trackpad?

same thing. And their customer service in case the laptop needs repair
 
The Razer blade trackpad is okay but definitely nowhere near as good as the MacBook.

Also something no one ever mentions is the screen quality of the Razer blade. For some reason they made the screen matte yet added the glossy touch layer over it. This makes the screen quality look kind of washed out like most matte screens, yet it still is glossy and reflective. That was a deal breaker to me because after putting the two side by side the retina MBP screen was just so much better. Not to mention the giant bezels
 
For now, I'm able to manage it with current MBA, but Intel HD4000 with 4 GB of RAM and dev tools running has hard time managing U2515H display.

I also need to virtualise Win VM (with current MBA, I can't virtualise any newer edition than XP due to amount of RAM) as Cypress PSoC Creator is available for Windows only. And developing BLE device with an iOS app without proper debugging on both sides can be... Irritating at times. It would be much better for me to virtualise Win 7+ with 4+ GB of RAM as Win XP is not supported anymore and it's .NET isn't the stablest one (PSoC crashes on XP, does not in Win 7 VM) --> 16 GB RAM config is way to go.

"Cheap" in CZ means approximately 48.000 CZK (1920 USD / 1780 € in i5/8G/256G config) for 1.5 years old machine. I'm not willing to pay that much for such a old hardware.

15" could be better, but as a student I would prefer 13" and its' portability.

Screenshot is WITHOUT VM running. I simply can't run Xcode AND Cypress IDE at once.

Quad core i7 Mac mini with upgraded ssd and ram is the way to go for that purpose especially.
For just about any stationary purpose that doesn't need a graphics card actually.

Good thing apple killed it off. Just too practical....
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NO.
Proper Kaby Lake CPUs for MacBook Pro don't exist, and will never do.



...why so?
Take a look at the Intel roadmap.
Skylake-H CPU will last until 2018.
So it won't be a bad investment, and new MacBook Pro will be good for the next couple of years, as there will be nothing comparable

12.09.2016tr_Intel_Roadmap_teaser.jpg
They didn't have a proper chip for the Mac mini.
They went dual core only.

They didn't for the RMB either.
It could barely cope with pretty basic tasks.

I'm not sure why people are counting on things to be so exact.
 
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Hmmm...

$3799 AUD for MacBook Pro 15" with i7 4th gen and an R9 M370x...

$2999 AUD for Razer Blade 14" with i7 6th gen and a full fledged GTX 1060...

Both have high res displays, fast storage, good quality KB, well built chassis, fan noise and temps, speakers..

The Razer has USB-C and an actual eGPU box that's actually supported by their company since even Razer has the slightest interests in their consumers.. Also has a RGB keyboard if that fancies anyones pickle and costs $800 AUD less.. I'd also argue that the GTX 1060 is adleast 400~500% stronger then Macs current R9 M370x.

The M370X 15" rMBP's $2499 USD price was too much for it(IMO) even when it was released a year ago. Razer dropping the price of the blade to $1999 and now getting a Desktop class GTX 1060 for the same price as the current Haswell Iris Pro-only 15" rMBP base model is just sobbingly sad now.

I mean, even if the 15" rMBP were updated with 6770HQ and 6870HQs with Iris Pro 580 and GTX 1040/1050 tomorrow, they'd still be overpriced. The line just needs a price drop in-general.
 
What are the chances the 13" rMBP will move to quad core? Dual core for a "Pro" laptop was always a stretch and simply won't cut it in late 2016.

That is the first step in making the rMBP great again!

There is a greater chance that both 13 and 15 move to dual core.

Unless you haven't been paying attention lately and are just optimistically hoping.
 
There is a greater chance that both 13 and 15 move to dual core.

Unless you haven't been paying attention lately and are just optimistically hoping.

I'm not sure if there was any specific rumor pointing to 15" moving to dual core?

It might seem like a possible choice given Intel's roadmap and their lack of interest in manufacturing their higher end iGPU-bearing processors in a timely manner, but Apple could equally just drop the Iris Pros and rely on dGPU if Intel doesn't cooperate (like other laptop manufacturers are doing right now).

I would personally not buy a rMBP with a dGPU though.
 
I think people who responded to this missed the word "announce".

How would you like the invite to bear a photo of an apple-shaped bodybuilder and the phrase "We've got ARMs like Pros"?

Or this:



hehe i prefer the bodybuilder invite :D

by the way this was the invite sent for Oct/16 event 2014.. it was sent on Oct/8 just after iPhone 6 event

http://www.mactrast.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Apple_Oct_16_Event_Live_Stream.jpg

ipad_event_2014.jpg


really! "been way too long" ?? how about this time o_O
 
By looking at the graph above, I really not 100% sure if apple will release new MBP's in 2016 now. If Apple wanted to release skylake MBP's, they would've had them out already for sale.

No, for example MacOS is not yet released. CPUs aren't the only source of delay.
 
this year,is the Mac year,a lot of updates will come.The BIG iPhone focus is for the 2017. So they need the upcoming profit margin from Mac,since we all believe that will surpass ipad in revenue
Macs don't sell. Certainly nothing like iPhones. There is absolutely zero reason to believe that 2016 is "the Mac year". Maybe Macs could beat iPad revenue but tablets pretty much don't sell anymore, so that's a pretty low bar.
 
with the dell 13 xps and the surface book 2 both expected to feature kaby lake and expected to be announced in October, it will be disappointing if the MBP only features skylake.

there will have to be convincing arguments to go for the Mac rather than one of the other two
 
with the dell 13 xps and the surface book 2 both expected to feature kaby lake and expected to be announced in October, it will be disappointing if the MBP only features skylake.

there will have to be convincing arguments to go for the Mac rather than one of the other two

You're making a purely apples to oranges comparison here. The Kaby Lakes that will be shoved into the XPS13" and the SB2 are very different from the skylakes we're expecting in the MBPs.

If you want to see the XPS13 as a competitor to anything (in terms of CPU), you should see it as a competitor to the MBA (if it were refreshed), and a somewhat crappy one at that.
 
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Macs don't sell. Certainly nothing like iPhones. There is absolutely zero reason to believe that 2016 is "the Mac year". Maybe Macs could beat iPad revenue but tablets pretty much don't sell anymore, so that's a pretty low bar.
a big company cant depends only on 1-2 products,and since they knew the iphone 7 will not be a big seller for the upcoming year they put the effort for the mac line to compensate the revenue,so trust me,the macs are coming
 
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You're making a purely apples to oranges comparison here. The Kaby Lakes that will be shoved into the XPS13" and the SB2 are very different from the skylakes we're expecting in the MBPs.

If you want to see the XPS13 as a competitor to anything (in terms of CPU), you should see it as a competitor to the MBA (if it were refreshed), and a somewhat crappy one at that.

Fair enough. I’ll mainly be looking at CPU performance for processing speed for Data Analysis (work) and Football Manager (play).

I’m not too concerned about GPU performance, I don’t have high requirements in that area.
 
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