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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread
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That's definitely the spirit here !
[doublepost=1474301784][/doublepost]Only two pages before page 1000 !
So many crushed dreams, so many poor souls who will (probably... I still might, myself) still buy underpowered and expensive crap that's worth nothing unless you max it out
988 + 2 = 990 not 1000
Delusions and confusion are setting in for us who have been waiting too long.
Time for my first post
I've been actively reading the forums on macrumors and enjoy the various topics regarding the MBPs everyone seems to be waiting for (just like me).
What has happened to the MBP in the last two and a half years is a BIG management error - and not just one.
The MBP should have been updated with a Browadwell chipset early 2015.
It should have been updated with Skylake mid 2016 (asap).
It ought to be updated with Kaby Lake by mid 2017 - and yes, I know this won't happen if Intel won't produce the appropriate chipsets (which they allegedly won't).
I am not convinced this is an /error/ yet, but it is certainly not the direction I, as a customer, would like. I will grant that if the Mac Pro experience is anything to go by, it is likely to prove an error.
However, take a step back and put this into context, and there may be a method to the madness.
Apple is transitioning to a fashion company. New generations of CPU and other hardware have more and more marginal advances, so you do not see a significant benefit upgrading anywhere near as frequently - so the next major Mac shipment, with Jony Ives at the helm, is likely to be a fashionable re-imagining, rather than a pitch for the hard-core customer. That is just where the market is today, love it or loathe it.
If you want the new fashionable, minimalist enclosure to look good on paper, it needs a relatively large spec-bump compared to the previous generation. Skipping two or three families of CPU will do that for you - you can ship a computer of similar power in a much more fashionable enclosure, and shout about a few choice benchmarks where you can see a big gain.
As we have been waiting so long, everyone jumps onto the new hardware at about the same time, and so the Mac hardware can go into a slower refresh cycle, as notebooks/desktop customers upgrade on a slower cycle than phone customers, and now everyone has synchronized to the same cycle. This allows a bottleneck, like running every product int he company through Jony Ives, to handle the wider range of Apple products today.
All speculation on my part, but quite possibly intentional, rather than accidental neglect, and even though I dislike this direction, we will need to wait a few years to see if it is a genuine error, rather than a course (some) existing customers do not like - but actually a good choice for the brand/company.
I fear the precedent of the Mac Pro, but the jury is still out on the MacBook Pro.
Not a chance. It will be in October
There is no fu***** way that Apple releases it March. My bet is 3rd week of October.
I read a lot of problems with iPhone 7...
In the last period Apple is going under, hope the new macbook will be ok but year after year i see higher price and lower quality... Hope i am wrong but in my opinion Apple is dying without Jobs
After a lot of years with Apple products don't know what i'd do without...
In the last period Apple is going under, hope the new macbook will be ok but year after year i see higher price and lower quality... Hope i am wrong but in my opinion Apple is dying without Jobs
After a lot of years with Apple products don't know what i'd do without...
Great, now I don't know which of this two is Serban.
I need a third Serban-prototype.
Come on guys!!! Don't be so pessimistic!! Remember how we all thought it HAD to come out early this year? Then how we were waiting for WWDC? Then the iPhone event?? Sure, each time we were disappointed, but don't loose hope NOW! I know it can get frustrating, but we're at the home stretch!!! We have several good sources pointing to an October release. This time'll be different.
Call me crazy, but I think that this time next month the only "Waiting for Skylake MBP" we'll be doing is the 2-3 weeks it'll take to ship.
Call me crazy, but I think that this time next month the only "Waiting for Skylake MBP" we'll be doing is the 2-3 weeks it'll take to ship.
I remember last October we were hoping for something.
Man, we were so young and naive. I've learned so much in this thread.
Man, we were so young and naive. I've learned so much in this thread.
I still go with the given rumors from Gurman and KGI man. It happens. This year.
The simple fact that Timmy and Phil were responding to emails about the state of the Mac lineup means they're definitely aware of the Mac's situation and public outlook. If they don't want the Mac line to completely look like a joke, they are going to be releasing something soon.
what problems iphone 7 has?I read a lot of problems with iPhone 7...
In the last period Apple is going under, hope the new macbook will be ok but year after year i see higher price and lower quality... Hope i am wrong but in my opinion Apple is dying without Jobs
After a lot of years with Apple products don't know what i'd do without...
To those who don't like what I write here: Take it as one more message to get at 1000 pages
There seem to be 2 camps: The hardcore Apple supporters who insist on using CPUs with Iris GPU for the MacBook Pros and the others who think the normal 2-core or 4-core CPUs would be OK when supported by a dedicated GPU. I'm belonging to this latter camp, as I have an ASUS Zenbook 13" with Nvidia 840 and a new ASUS Zenbook Pro 15" with an Nvidia 960. Both are running well with the current Windows 10 version and I didn't notice any lags at all. On the other hand both run games much better than their MacBook counter parts. The only argument I could accept against the non-Iris variant is some impact on Battery life, but I have no means to test this. For me the battery life is no issue as long as it is close to 5 hours
TBH i don't care what u "mean" would be OK. That's not the point, the point is it won't happen. You cant make the argument "others are shipping Kaby Lake so Apple better come up with some magic for me to buy this MBP with SkyLake." THE ONLY PROCESSORS we are waiting for is 6770HQ 6870HQ and 6970HQ. We don't care at all about dell shipping 15W KabyLakes, it's completely irrelevant! If the reason you buy a Mac is to have the latest and greatest HW go buy dells ffs. We are here because we are waiting for the SkyLake MBP and if ure not then GTFO
edit: sry im getting mad, just trust us okey?
C'mon WRONG, it's clearly Choice #2 (AC). I present the evidence:
BT said "My concern is, that Apple - as a matter of prudence - prophylactically priced the current rMB as high as $1299, that they'll be able to charge a..." Way too many big words there.
AC said "this year,is the Mac year,a lot of updates will come.The BIG iPhone focus is for the 2017. So they need the upcoming profit margin from Mac,since..." Weird punctuation/grammar and a whole lot of certainty.
FWIW, I am sticking with October 25th as the day.
Maybe they should just ship an alternate version of the 15" MBP with 15W Kaby Lake, call it the MBP "Special" Edition. The rest of us can get the more powerful HQ Skylake chips.
Not many people really thought it would be at the iPhone event. March, WWDC, and now Oct event. If it doesn't happen in Oct, that's when we can all abandon ship!
Sierra GM has been out for a while but no mention yet of any unannounced hardware has yet been reported sadly...
I can't believe nobody responded to this...
Sierra contains references to the OLED touch bar, and something else about GPU that was relevant to others here back when it was posted.
They can't seem to make them fast enough lololol.
You made my day, sir.
YES! Now I feel more comfortable knowing I'm not the only one waiting skylake MBPr + FM17... like every year
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