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Now that the 2016 Models are out, will you buy a 2016 Model?

  • No, They increased the cost far to much. The Apple i once new loved appears to have disappeared.

    Votes: 465 36.6%
  • No, I really wanted a Kaby Lake processor, ill wait till 2017

    Votes: 325 25.6%
  • Yes, Im ordering a 2016 now, or already placed an order already.

    Votes: 482 37.9%

  • Total voters
    1,272
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I have to say, I'm seriously considering jumping ship too.
I'm more interested in the Razer Blade Pro which has 17.3" 4K LED screen, i7-6700HQ 2,6 GHz, 32Gb RAM, and the new GTX 1080 GDDR5 8Gb VRAM.
I don't know when it will be for sale, but that's the tech specs I expect from a Pro notebook going on 2017.
I'm worried about the switch to Windows, but life sucks sometimes.
I don't feel like Apple is addressing me as a customer any more. Which is fine, I guess, break-ups happen. But I'm not sticking around like some fool.
I'd love to get some opinions, though. Anyone heard of these laptops? Willing to give input?
may be on Paper it looks cool.

You may face reliability issues. These new age products are not matured enough. that is one prime reason many stick to Apple. you can reply on Mac 99% unlike any other laptop. (I am jumping ship in other direction, Windows to Mac).

you should consider Samcow's suggestion of building a desktop.
 
may be on Paper it looks cool.

You may face reliability issues. These new age products are not matured enough. that is one prime reason many stick to Apple. you can reply on Mac 99% unlike any other laptop. (I am jumping ship in other direction, Windows to Mac).

you should consider Samcow's suggestion of building a desktop.
And installing macOS on it?

Does anybody of you have some hackintoshing experience?
 
Have to say I'm sorely tempted to get the non-touchbar 13" for portability and build a hackintosh. One use for that old Powermac G5 I have sitting around that cost me next to nothing.

Out of interest, would I really notice that much of a performance hit with a 2015 13" model that comes with a 512Gb SSD, but only 8Gb ram? Would something like Final Cut Pro X struggle?
 
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Have to say I'm sorely tempted to get the non-touchbar 13" for portability
if you're going to spend that much money, why not get the TB version. If I were to get the 13" MBP, I'd opt for that TB version because you get the 28w CPU and the Touch Bar
 
if you're going to spend that much money, why not get the TB version. If I were to get the 13" MBP, I'd opt for that TB version because you get the 28w CPU and the Touch Bar

I can see where you're coming from, but the premium for the touch bar version isn't appealing. I'm looking at a 2015 13" model if I go that way.
 
I can see where you're coming from, but the premium for the touch bar version isn't appealing. I'm looking at a 2015 13" model if I go that way.
I'm in the same boat really. Kind of lousy that the Touch bar version even gets slightly better specs.. Typical Apple I guess.
 
may be on Paper it looks cool.

You may face reliability issues. These new age products are not matured enough. that is one prime reason many stick to Apple. you can reply on Mac 99% unlike any other laptop. (I am jumping ship in other direction, Windows to Mac).

you should consider Samcow's suggestion of building a desktop.

Guess you didn't own any model with dGPU issues or any other model with wide spread issues. I've owned 3 models of Apple laptops, 2 died due to dGPU issues.
 
My MacBook Pro 17" died because of the nvidia 8600 fault. Apple didn't message me about a logic board replacement programme. Went wrong a month after it ended!

Any known issues with the GPU in the 2015 range, or are the AMD chips in the 15" models reliable?
 
I actually started seriously considering going the Hackintosh route. I DO kinda like need a portable computer... but thinking about it... not necessarily a notebook. I could bring my computer to work on Monday... and leave it there until Friday. During the week I don't ALWAYS need my computer but can get by with an iPad as I don't really have a lot of time at hand anyways. If I really needed to use it though, I could just take it home... or VNC into it.

But still... this is crazy... but at least it's not going Windows... because after also giving this a lot of thought... I simply cannot do it.

The hackintosh I consider building you can look at here: https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/custom-mini-mac-pro-for-sierra-and-above.207843/

I basically wanna build a small old-skool Mac Pro.
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But still... this is crazy... but at least it's not going Windows... because after also giving this a lot of thought... I simply cannot do it.

Same here, I have a 2010 cMP that is still going very strong. I updated everything CPU (from 4 to 6 cores), RAM, GPU (Flashed PC card), BD player, SSD+HDD DIY fusion drive).

When I will feel it not adequate anymore (in 2/3 years i guess) my next desktop will surely be a hackintosh....
 
may be on Paper it looks cool.

You may face reliability issues. These new age products are not matured enough. that is one prime reason many stick to Apple. you can reply on Mac 99% unlike any other laptop. (I am jumping ship in other direction, Windows to Mac).

you should consider Samcow's suggestion of building a desktop.

Razer has been all over the place. I'm not sure whether I would trust them, given my past experiences with their mice. That being said, Apple is far from perfect. I've had swollen batteries, which were a known issue (known by Apple yet not covered). I've experienced gpu failures as well, which were repaired under repair programs. The problem is that not only do the refurbished logic boards have the same chip. They don't last as long as the new ones. Anyway the point is that these things don't last forever if you really use them, and Apple isn't always definitively more reliable.
 
My speculation only but I see Apple not releasing an update to their current Macs until October 2017. This my guess will be Kaby Lake. We might see a price reduction at this point. Perhaps slightly cheaper options on RAM and SSDs.

Next hardware release will be iPads and iMacs and maybe Mac Mini/Mac Pro if they bother to update them. This will likely be April/May next year.

Intel is facing serious issues going forward with getting their chips ready on schedule which means that Apple is having to pay for these delays by releasing older tech in their new Macs.

Has anyone stated in the previous 36 pages whether Kaby Lake can support DDR4? I suppose we might see Intel use it's 3D XPoint based Optane SSDs and DIMMs. This could be the next game changer for performance but it would also means prices remain high.
 

Intel is facing serious issues going forward with getting their chips ready on schedule which means that Apple is having to pay for these delays by releasing older tech in their new Macs.

This reminded me of the last powerpc cpu days in mac, about a decade ago....
 
My speculation only but I see Apple not releasing an update to their current Macs until October 2017. This my guess will be Kaby Lake. We might see a price reduction at this point. Perhaps slightly cheaper options on RAM and SSDs.

I guess you're speculating this? But what would cause the delay? Kaby Lake is the 3rd iterating of the same platform, I doubt they'll still run into production issues? Does anyone have any idea what possible dates would Intel be announcing the rest of Kaby Lake?
 
I guess you're speculating this? But what would cause the delay? Kaby Lake is the 3rd iterating of the same platform, I doubt they'll still run into production issues? Does anyone have any idea what possible dates would Intel be announcing the rest of Kaby Lake?

Sorry, I wasn't being clear. I meant Intel's ongoing delays which have already been happening for the last two or three years and which Apple compound by waiting for a new release only then having it delayed (see Skylake and the 18 month wait between MBPs).

Kaby Lake might not be that delayed as it is the same 14mn process and Skylake is already a mature release. If Apple is relying on Intel for future iterations then I predict there will be longer wait times between iterations largely due to the complexity and challenges of Moore's Law and the difficulty in producing 10mn and smaller chips.

These challenges are why I don't see an update to the Macbook Pro for another 12 months and even then performance gains will be marginal since Kaby Lake is so similar to Skylake. Therefore you'll get some increased efficiencies and optimisation perhaps resulting in better battery life but since this is all unknown it would seem despite the drawbacks that buying a new Macbook Pro now would be a wise thing to do.
 
if you're going to spend that much money, why not get the TB version. If I were to get the 13" MBP, I'd opt for that TB version because you get the 28w CPU and the Touch Bar

TB is useless to many of us. Also less battery life.
 
No news about the upcoming MBP?
Do I need to get drunk again? :(
Bring it on those 32 GB RAM, Apple!

But you'll probably need to wait for Intel to release Coffe Lake for 32GB RAM. Kaby Lake doesn't support LPDDR4.

I'm still waiting for my 15" MBP with Radeon 460, got the USB-C to USB dongle shipped from Apple before the laptop itself...
 
TB is useless to many of us. Also less battery life.
Yes, but the 28w CPU isn't, I understand where you're coming from, but given the high cost of the laptop, I guess why not get the TB version, just for the Touch ID
 
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