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Now that the 2016 Models are out, will you buy a 2016 Model?

  • No, They increased the cost far to much. The Apple i once new loved appears to have disappeared.

    Votes: 465 36.6%
  • No, I really wanted a Kaby Lake processor, ill wait till 2017

    Votes: 325 25.6%
  • Yes, Im ordering a 2016 now, or already placed an order already.

    Votes: 482 37.9%

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whats the point of waiting for kaby lake if it doesn't come in quad core. and cannon lake who knows when it comes out.!

i haven't bought my new laptop, but the waiting is killing me, my 2012 macbook pro is super slow.
 
Ships already sailed for me and I opted for an Alienware 13 r3 after considering the XPS 15, 13, HP Zbook, and Razer Blade; Pains me to finally buy a PC(I did run bootcamp on my 4,1 Mac Pro), but it was getting harder to justify paying more for older technology just for MacOS -even though I've been an Apple user for over 30 years.
 
So, let's get back to basis.
I'm drinking my second Mojito, after 0,8 liter Beck's beer.
Now, Apple, where's Kaby Lake?!
Keep drinking, you'll find it.
it was getting harder to justify paying more for older technology just for MacOS -even though I've been an Apple user for over 30 years.
Well, it been that way for most of those 30 years.
 
I would think Apple is very anxious to get out a Kaby Lake MBP to try and paper over some of the cracks people have seen with the 2016 model - probably a new type of battery, '3rd gen' keyboard, 32 GB option, perhaps a touchbar option and perhaps a small price drop. I really can't see why Apple would wait until October to release an update which doesn't really bring anything in terms of processing power.
 
I would think Apple is very anxious to get out a Kaby Lake MBP to try and paper over some of the cracks people have seen with the 2016 model - probably a new type of battery, '3rd gen' keyboard, 32 GB option, perhaps a touchbar option and perhaps a small price drop. I really can't see why Apple would wait until October to release an update which doesn't really bring anything in terms of processing power.

You'd hope so. But Apple have also proven time and time again, they're ignorant of the mood surrounding their products. Add in the fact that the new MacBook Pro's have alledgedly still sold pretty well - Apple may not be too concerned and therefore hold out until October.
 
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Add in the fact that the new MacBook Pro's have alledgedly still sold pretty well
I'm sure Apple expected them to sell even better than they did, given the pent up demand after such a long update cycle. Also, bad press is never good. The reviews weren't kind.
 
whats the point of waiting for kaby lake if it doesn't come in quad core. and cannon lake who knows when it comes out.!

This is a good point, since the jump to quad core is what would most justify the cost to those willing to spend for power. In any case, we can't really expect any significant power jump in the 13", which I need for commuting portability. I imagine the biggest improvement we can hope for is improved design for better battery life, and various 'under-the-hood' improvements that most of us won't realize or appreciate.

As for timing, I doubt churning out a modestly improved MBP is a huge priority for Apple—they're most likely more interested in ginning up hoopla for iPhone 8. Suppose the most we can hope for at WWDC is a hint of what to expect in Oct~Dec '17.
 
Huh? The world's most successful corporation (or close) has shown this how exactly?
First example that came to my head:
Apple released their aluminum BT keyboard in lie 2007. It didn't have a numpad... people were begging for a version with a numpad. After a while... Apple released a new keyboard. This time it was like the BT one, but with a USB cable. Still no numpad.
 
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First example that came to my head:
Apple released their aluminum BT keyboard in lie 2007. It didn't have a numpad... people were begging for a version with a numpad. After a while... Apple released a new keyboard. This time it was like the BT one, but with a USB cable. Still no numpad.
Maybe Apple knew something about what most of their customers wanted that the few calling for a number pad didn't. Probably most people would rather have a smaller keyboard without.
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Wow. Sorry it hasn't worked out so well. People who imagine only Macs have issues ought to read it!
 
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Ships already sailed for me and I opted for an Alienware 13 r3 after considering the XPS 15, 13, HP Zbook, and Razer Blade; Pains me to finally buy a PC(I did run bootcamp on my 4,1 Mac Pro), but it was getting harder to justify paying more for older technology just for MacOS -even though I've been an Apple user for over 30 years.

I'm always curious about posts like this. I've been using computers since mainframes and currently am all Mac at home but use Win7 and Linux every day at work so I understand the differences very well. My question is what kind of user can switch OS platforms just to get a little newer/faster computer? What kinds of software are you using? Lots of programs are not available for Mac and Windows and even those that are often are a bit different (e.g. Office) or even incompatible (Quicken) on different OSes. It would seem to me that the more power user - which is the ones I see switching - are the ones that would be hit hardest by changing. And the casual web-browser/email folks would have fewer problems but wouldn't care about cutting edge hardware.

So, what's the deal?

David (mostly happy with 15" 2012 rMBP 2.6GHz i7, 16GB RAM, NVIDIA 650M/1GB, 480 GB OWC drive)
 
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I'm always curious about posts like this. I've been using computers since mainframes and currently am all Mac at home but use Win7 and Linux every day at work so I understand the differences very well. My question is what kind of user can switch OS platforms just to get a little newer/faster computer? What kinds of software are you using? Lots of programs are not available for Mac and Windows and even those that are often are a bit different (e.g. Office) or even incompatible (Quicken) on different OSes. It would seem to me that the more power user - which is the ones I see switching - are the ones that would be hit hardest by changing. And the casual web-browser/email folks would have fewer problems but wouldn't care about cutting edge hardware.

So, what's the deal?

David (mostly happy with 15" 2012 rMBP 2.6GHz i7, 16GB RAM, NVIDIA 650M/1GB, 480 GB OWC drive)


Me, personally, I really gave it A LOT of thought when the new MacBook Pros were announced. I had waited a long time for a new machine, coming from my early 2011 17" MBP. The thing is: my computer is a combined work/private use machine. For some things at work (running my company's proprietary database software) I need Windows. Period. Currently I run it in a VM when need be. So I really gave it a lot of thought, as it initially didn't seem like such a bad idea to go with... say... an XPS 15.

My conclusion was another one though in the end. There is simply too much software that I'd miss and too many other little things, like

  • iWork (all of it... including Numbers! Formatting Excel is a BITCH... and I consider it ridiculous that you cannot rearrange stuff via drag'n'drop and that you can only have ONE table per sheet...)
  • Final Cut Pro (switching to and buying! Premiere... is not an option)
  • Integration Mac/iPhone/iPad
  • MailDrop! As we often have to send HUGE attachments... would be a pain if I had to upload them somewhere every single time.
  • no Time Machine
  • no easy, fast and flexible screenshots (w/o any 3rd party applications)
  • no multiple expandable folders in list view. In Windows you can only see the contents of ONE folder.
And the list goes and an on... result... switching would be a real pain... so unless I REALLY have to... I won't!
 
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My conclusion was another one though in the end. There is simply too much software that I'd miss and too many other little things, like
There's many utilities out there that not only duplicate the functionality you listed, but exceed what Apple includes in many ways. I'm not knocking Time Machine, its a great app, but there's other apps that provide better control and flexibility. I understand the logic in the one stop shopping of Apple's Macs, but I think there's a richness in apps that you're missing out in.


It seems like all of the Windows-laptops are some way or another garbage.
I have to disagree, while the other member's experience is horrible, no question, I've known others who have had a great experiences with Dell, and my own experience with SurfaceBook is counter to the assessment that all windows laptops are garbage. My SurfaceBook is just as good as the MBP in design, build quality, and performance.
 
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Similar issues with a 9550 and 2 9350s. I bought a 9360 but ended up returning it during the 30 day window. There wasn't anything wrong with it but the possibility of dealing with Dell customer service was too much to bear. At this point, I'm using my custom Skylake build until the next MBP refresh, but really, really need to move to a mobile solution.
 
Since they are supposedly announcing a spec update for the Mac Pro, what are the chances we see a spec bump for the current MacBook Pro today?
The MBP just came out, I don't see apple further annoying and angering its fan base with an update to the MBP so soon
 
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