Windows based notebooks are available in 32 GB configuration. Apple is likely waiting on lower power DDR4 before we start seeing 32 GB configurations available. Those are likely to be ready by the end of this year or latest mid 2018. Once that happens, you will see the push towards 64 GB capacity. Knowing, Apple you might not get it until a couple years after Windows notebooks.
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Waiting for the 2017 MBP (Kaby Lake / Cannonlake / Coffee Lake??)
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It's a terrible time to purchase. Kaby Lake brings significant advancements in terms of video and GPU performance, not to mention the power savings. So if those things are relevant to folks, waiting two months or so would be a good idea. Obviously, if they don't need a computer right away, and are waiting for a significant bump in CPU, they will have to wait for Coffee Lake.
If you're fine with the current Macbook Pro, waiting two months might be a good idea if you're looking to save some money.
While it's certainly true that many people are just chasing specs and the feeling of having a new shiny toy, have you ever entertained the notion that there really are professional users who work on large amounts of data and would benefit from a memory increase on a portable machine more than from any other form of upgrade?
One important thing people often forget is that main memory is a hard-constraint: have a slower CPU? Your tasks will take longer to execute, but they'll terminate; have a slower disk? Annoying, but data and apps will eventually load all the same; Don't have enough RAM to run a memory-intensive calculation without running out of memory? Well, you're SOL!
yea i somehow doubt we see this in two months. maybe same october show and realistic delivery time frame in nov/dec. but i heard coffee lake is the one to wait for. thats like extra months tho.
Apple is gonna take their own sweet time to update to each revision. Kabylake > Cannonlake > Coffeelake
You probably won't see Coffeelake in an Apple notebook or desktop until 2019 or 2020.
i would wait to see what is after coffeelake, tho i hear that is going to blow our socks off. /s
I wonder if there will be any Apple desktops in 2020. Except of course nMP at its current price.
I hope so too, same with a dGPU in the 21" iMac. But Apple seems committed to "smaller machine has fewer spec options".
The company is living up to the words of its founder. Ever since Steve redefined desktops as trucks, the company's strategy has changed purely to mobility. Its just that notebooks remain a highly popular mobile form factor why the company still makes them. Apple's ideal strategy would be stop making MacBook Pro's and solely concentrate on the retina MacBook as its go to desktop users can augment with external display if needed.
Part of the intention is based on what they believe is: processors, memory and graphics will become powerful enough to fit into something like the retina MacBook to become enough of a pro device users need within the next 5 to 10 years. What they don't understand is, thats 5 to 10 years, pro users still want the traditional benefits until the core technology catches up.
Apple likely has a lot of sociologist and research folks looking closely at market trends. Their conclusion is that the vast majority of users don't want something like the new MacBook Pro's or even the Mac Pro 5 years from now. I just watched a Facebook live of this lady unboxing her MacBook Air for the first time. Throughout the entire video, she kept saying I'm so scared, because her only computer has been an iPhone and iPad.
That says something, and it likely is the case for a lot of users and those are the users Apple wants to market the company to.
Apple is looking at certain trends that will change computing. Preparation of electronic documents will become significantly less over the next 5 to 10 years because: faster 5G networks; more video based interaction; contactless payment services managed automatically lessening the need for accounting tools and methods. So, things like creating Agenda's, Reports and physically gathering at a meeting will be less of an activity because of the devices and the network.
The Watch itself is even a greater part of the strategy to lessen the dependency on the iPhone.
In essence, Apple's strategy is: Siri, iCloud, Watch, iPhone and iPad as the core products.
Both Cook and Schiller say Apple remains committed to desktops, for reasons that won't change in 2020. Bigger, heavier machines will be able to do more than smaller ones for the foreseeable future.
What does that mean though? Is Schiller committed to innovating his ass? Is Cook committed to selling more "current" iMacs with spinners?
I'm sure they intend to innovate as much as before. (And that some people here will complain about each change.)
To me all it means is that they won't discontinue their desktop line entirely. It doesn't mean there will continue to be a triad of Mini, Pro, and iMac. It doesn't mean that the iMac will continue to have user-upgradeable memory. And it doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to update the iMac anytime soon.
I think you have your answer, just look how much innovating he's done with the Mac Pro, or even just plain updating the Mini.
As or the iMac, I love my 27" iMac, but its really sad that they use a stock 5400 rpm drive in for the 21" iMac. I mean the 7200 rpm hard drive came out in 1992 and yet apple is using the slower 5400 rpm drive in its premium desktop???
I think Apple will do the bare minimum to keep the mac line going, but it will spend more time, energy and effort in innovating and promoting its iOS products.
I agree. But when you look at iOS lineup, iPad sales are dropping year after year, while iPhone has the same design for 3 years in a row now. iOS as itself hasn't changed much also.
So, if they are putting so much effort in iOS and mobile phones and tablets department, and still lacking (imho of course!), then macs are in real trouble
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If anyone wants to dispute me, sure, go ahead, I don't mind it. But no attacks please, since I already stated once, and will do it again - IMHO
When they come out, they're appropriately updated, and the Mac Pro in particular was quite innovative in some respects. Still awaiting an explanation of the things the Mac Pro can no longer do.
Again, anyone has the option to buy the faster HDD if they want it. Again, no one forces you or anyone else to buy the slower one, but the cheaper option works fine for some people.
No argument there, which makes the lack of moves on the Mac side both curious and bewildering. The iPhone grew in 2016 only because of Samsung's battery debacle. I think everyone is expecting Apple to come out swinging with the iPhone 8.
As with the iPad, Apple continues to push the iPad as a computer replacement, but I do wonder if they're missing the mark, since sales are continuing to drop. They even took a page out of Microsoft's playbook and created a tablet with a stylus.
No question it was innovative back 3+ years go. Now, not so much.
As for tasks, I'm sure its fine and can handle many tasks for today, but would someone spend 3k on a 3 year old product that has limited upgrade capability, or spend less then that on a workstation that runs the latest chipsets and is more future proof.
Not when Apple is billing its computer line as a premium product. Yes, you can upgrade the configuration, but that's not the point. The point is Apple s offering inferior, old technology in a premium priced product.
The point remains that when they upgraded under Cook it was innovative. What people would pay for depends entirely on what they want. If they're happy running non-Mac software, they'll get a non-Mac machine. If they want to run Mac software, they'll get the Mac.
They're offering people who don't need a faster HDD a chance to save some money. That hurts no one, yet people complain.
There are really good tutorials on building Hackintoshes for 1/3 of the price, I hear.
True, and it's a fun option for those who like to do that kind of thing. But that's a tiny fraction of the market.
Unlike Mac Pro (which @maflynn was talking about) which in 2017 sells like hotcakes
Ha, hard to say, but I'd guess their sales are slow these days, as most people who want one have one already. I meant it's a tiny fraction of the potential Mac Pro market who have the inclination, time and ability to make their own.
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