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Waiting for the 2017 MBP (Kaby Lake / Cannonlake / Coffee Lake??)

Now that the 2016 Models are out, will you buy a 2016 Model?

  • No, They increased the cost far to much. The Apple i once new loved appears to have disappeared.

    Votes: 465 36.6%

  • No, I really wanted a Kaby Lake processor, ill wait till 2017

    Votes: 325 25.6%

  • Yes, Im ordering a 2016 now, or already placed an order already.

    Votes: 482 37.9%
  • Total voters
    1,272
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deconstruct60 said:
Eh? The first Cannonlake processors will be the smallest/low power members of the line up not the largest, most high power.

The are the first products on the 10nm process and smaller dies are going to lead to substantially better yields. One of the primary reasons why there is a CoffeeLake release is because the mid-large size dies are going to slide out in time. That's why Intel needed yet another place holder before transitioning to 10nm.

Older roadmap from a while back from earlier macrumors article. (intel has shifted a bit from these timelines)
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https://www.macrumors.com/2016/09/22/intel-mobile-roadmap-coffee-lake/

Coffee Like is being pulled back into 2017 but CannonLake never was in the H (large laptop) or S category before 2H 2018. Just getting yields on Y (Core M) and mainstream U processors is going to be a challenge.
Plus Intel is going to be feeling alot of heat from both ARM on Windows and AMD by Fall in that mainstream laptop market window.



Probably not. The upper end of the U class with GT3e graphics (which is what the MBP 13"uses ) is still projected to be CoffeeLake for a while. The Macbook and perhaps MBA are best candidates for CannonLake.
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Good post but this was before AMD Ryzen. Intel has all of a sudden decided it needs to compete and so it brought all the calendars forward. woudln't be surprsied to see an H class Cannon in March/April or sooner
 
seems that now even the 12" MB and 13" MBP are delivered since June 7 fastest. So an updated 12" 13" is confirmed for Monday
 
Come on lets bet. Sadly we don't know each other,Apple store are recommending to wait until Monday for every 12 13 and 15 macbooks
 
fokmik said:
Come on lets bet. Sadly we don't know each other,Apple store are recommending to wait until Monday for every 12 13 and 15 macbooks
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you could possibly be fired if you recommend something like that in any store in the world.
quite strange apple stores' employees reccomedn something like that since it one of the few places where you can bring back you computer for 14 days and be able to get a full refund.
anyway, 7th june is 2 days after the 5th, normal shipping time since it's weekend.
 
fokmik said:
Come on lets bet. Sadly we don't know each other,Apple store are recommending to wait until Monday for every 12 13 and 15 macbooks
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Apple aren't 'recommending' anything. They're advising when their products will be delivered. Earlier in the week, when shipping times were showing 6-7th June, you could argue it was due to updates at WWDC. But, in the UK, 15" shipping dates have now slipped even further to 13-15th June. So whilst I'm too expecting an update at WWDC - this could just be supply constraints for any number of other reasons.
 
haydn! said:
Apple aren't 'recommending' anything. They're advising when their products will be delivered. Earlier in the week, when shipping times were showing 6-7th June, you could argue it was due to updates at WWDC. But, in the UK, 15" shipping dates have now slipped even further to 13-15th June. So whilst I'm too expecting an update at WWDC - this could just be supply constraints for any number of other reasons.
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I was talking about what they told me in 2 Apple Stores today! Words are 0,lets bet if you are not on the same page with me
 
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im not living in Greece, but you can try to go into one, if you have a friend that is a manager there
[doublepost=1496494499][/doublepost]The source also says that MacBooks are only getting internal updates this year but more major changes are planned for future models. This includes the dynamic e-Ink keyboards we have heard about before. The OLED Touch Bar would apparently remain for the function key row and the remaining keys would be ‘e-paper smart keys’. The poster also seemed to suggest that a future external Magic Keyboard (‘2018’) would also get this feature set, including the Touch Bar.

So get used to that touchbar because that was only the beginning
 
Your Apple Store manager friend does not know **** about what is coming on Monday, zero chance!
 
I wonder how do you know that ? i mean how are you so sure? think about this question a lot
 
cullenl87 said:
ASUS just unveiled the Zenbook Pro. 1050ti, up to 32 gb of DDR4 RAM, Kaby Lake i7, 12-14 hours of battery life. 4 pounds, starts at $1299. Why the **** do I still shill out for these MBP's again?
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Don't know about you but anything running any Win OS is a PITA from my POV. Running MacOS or Linux on it is another thing.
 
fokmik said:
Seems that just 15" MBP will have 32 gb Ram
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I personally don't need 32 GB of ram however what I'm afraid Apple will do is make an exclusive 15" MBP with 32 GB of ram and make that one exclusive with a non touch bar. So if you want a non touch bar 15" you are forced into paying the price of 32 ram (and trust me it's going to be expensive for 32 ram Apple's going to milk this one)
 
hmm i think the touchbar will be the future, so will no longer have without touchbar (minus the 15W 13"). Since apple will make the Macbook in 2018/2019 e-ink keyboard
 
fokmik said:
seems that now even the 12" MB and 13" MBP are delivered since June 7 fastest. So an updated 12" 13" is confirmed for Monday
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While I do believe the 12" and 13" models will see Kaby Lake processor bumps, the June 7 shipping date is not "confirmation" of anything. Guess what? It's currently the weekend. The earliest anything could ship, update or not, is June 5. Processing generally takes one day, so with overnight shipping, guess what else? The soonest possible date you'd receive a new computer, if ordered right now, is June 7.

Sure, if I were in the market for a new laptop, I'd wait for WWDC, but if there's a MBP refresh, it'll be minor at best. There are gonna be a lot of disappointed folks around these parts come Monday afternoon!
 
Just wanted to say Dutch online Apple store has delivery date for all 2016 MBPs on Thursday 8th, and the 2015 model – Wednesday 7th (their normal delivery time, Monday is a bank holiday).
 
ThisBougieLife said:
Rumors on 9to5Mac say that the 2018 MBP will have an e-ink keyboard. That could be interesting :)
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lel, how fun, when you are so stubborn and you "will never introduce a touch screen mac computer" but instead you work on making the one and only input method (the keyboard) every time worse.
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navaira said:
Just wanted to say Dutch online Apple store has delivery date for all 2016 MBPs on Thursday 8th, and the 2015 model – Wednesday 7th (their normal delivery time, Monday is a bank holiday).
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i don't think that using "estimated" shipping time is a good way to understand if something new is coming anymore, they are very different across all the european countries.

i'm confident that something will happen as on hardware side at this wwdc.

i think we are going to see a speedbump/new internals for the macbook pros (only touch bar models, but the "new" tag on the apple site is really strange)
price drop for the macbook and updated internals.
all the portable line will get 8gb ram and 256gb of ssd as base (like they did with the iOS line, looking at you macbook air)
new iPad pros to go with the iOS11.
less likely:
a preview of the siri enabled speaker, (only for usa uk and other english speaking countries, like the first siri. some countries are still waiting for siri on apple tv)
new Apple TV 4k and revamped iTunes store for UHD contents.
almost sure:
some watch bands.

(edit: just seen, more or less the same things on main page)
 
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