Well if Apple really wants to screw up their brand reputation by just lying there and do nothing then yes they could play it off later. But I just saw a news today said that "A Third Class Action has been filed against Apple in California over MacBook Pro Keyboard Problems". If Apple wants to keep charging the premium price on their so-called MacBook Pros, they have to take action as soon as possible now.
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Well if Apple really wants to screw up their brand reputation by just lying there and do nothing then yes they could play it off later. But I just saw a news today said that "A Third Class Action has been filed against Apple in California over MacBook Pro Keyboard Problems". If Apple wants to keep charging the premium price on their so-called MacBook Pros, they have to take action as soon as possible now.
LOL @ "dont even get me started about AR Kit"
I am going to cry if this is true... at least the part about iPhone SE2 vs. new MBPs...
I have a feeling there may be another event in late July or early August.
More like October, Apple has a history of every few years holding:
WWDC
September - iPhone’s and Apple Watch
October - Mac’s and iPad’s
There is an outside possibility that Mac’s could be silently updated, spec updates don’t really need an event.
I couldn't access forums.macrumors.com for almost 1 hour (till about 20 minutes ago);
Is it possible that the site was down?
Maybe zillion people are curious to know what is going to be announced at WWDC and the site couldn't meet the high demand?
Is it possible that the site was down?
Maybe zillion people are curious to know what is going to be announced at WWDC and the site couldn't meet the high demand?
This is kind of my point though. With the current design, Apple seem to have locked themselves in in terms of power, thermals and size. There are of course ways around it, and this is an area where it would be awesome to see some innovation from Apple. And to be fair, your post is the only report I've seen about the new chips being much hotter. I don't doubt your data, but I'd be curious to see if others have found something similar on other models.
I’m just thinking of their back to school campaign in the US. Old models may hurt sales. At least they’ll be in time for the holiday season though.
Back to school usually has a promotion such as getting a gift card when buying a Mac or iPad, in the past this has been on the older Mac's and then new one's have been shown off at an event in October.
There is no 100% with Apple, they might show new Mac's off at the keynote today (after all i didn't think they would last year and look at what they unveiled) OR they could even do a silent update after the keynote or later in the week. If that doesn't happen my best guess is it will be October, especially if we don't see a new iPad Pro either that is reportedly in the works and due out later this year according to Mark Gurman.
Airpower is also due and so is the wireless case for the AirPods, they could be released today but my guess is that will happen in September alongside the new iPhone's and Apple Watch.
WWDC - Software focused (after all it is the World Wide Developers conference so i can't blame Apple here)
September - new iPhones, Apple Watch and release of Airpower and AirPods wireless case
October - Mac's and iPad Pro's with a new design and Face ID (iPad Pro only)
IF Apple announce the iPad Pro at a September event alongside the iPhone's then i can't see them holding an even in October for Mac's just because of a spec update. It all depends on Apple's plans here.
Well we’ll find out for sure tonight (or morning for you American friends).
Hello everyone!
Just posting to say that on Geekbench site there is this result for a 14,3 mbp:
http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/8493093
32gb ddr 4 and hexa core!
I hope it’s legit
Just posting to say that on Geekbench site there is this result for a 14,3 mbp:
http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/8493093
32gb ddr 4 and hexa core!
I hope it’s legit
Apple will "crack it" easily new hex core CPU's don't run massively hot for the performance they offer, more the power consumption is far higher.
Q-6
The new chips only run hotter when the turbo boost ist active on all four / six cores. I haven't seen a single notebook capable of running max turbo frequencies on all cores though, so in the end, the cooling is the decisive factor if the chips run at 1.6 GHz or at 4.2 GHz, which obviously makes a huge difference. But even in notebooks which just swapped chips without improving cooling, the performance was still significantly better than previous CPUs.
Or this evening (6pm) for us Brits
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Yea that was shown earlier in Twitter and it was pointed out that Macbookpro14,3 is a 2017 MacBook Pro so it’s not new. It could be either a Hackintosh or something like that.
I wouldn’t be surprised about it. After all, Coffe Lake is just a Kaby Lake with two extra cores slapped on top. There haven’t been any improvements in per-core efficiency...
It’s a bit sad, really, that we now came to the point that the CPU tech is stagnating this much. We haven’t really seen any noteworthy per-watt performance gains from intel in over three years. Skylake’s advantage over Haswell is only situational, and neither KL not Coffee Lake bring any real improvements.
Or this evening (6pm) for us Brits
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Yea that was shown earlier in Twitter and it was pointed out that Macbookpro14,3 is a 2017 MacBook Pro so it’s not new. It could be either a Hackintosh or something like that.
Spanish media is reporting that this is a new model running an Intel Core i7-8750H Coffe Lake processor.
https://www.applesfera.com/portatil...ro-procesador-seis-nucleos-32gb-ram-geekbench
Or this evening (6pm) for us Brits
Yes, back when I lived in the UK the office used to gather round with beers to watch.
I bet thats a Hackintosh. The same Motherboard-ID is also present on last-years models...
14,3 is the 2017 model.
Same in German media. 14,3 is not the 2017 model and also the score is very high at geekbench. Much higher than any other MPB
Not according to the people who know their stuff (see the screen shot)
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Of course they do. Thats a nice way to generate traffic. Those clickbait journalists...
I wouldn't believe all these reports if they have no credible source, the best people to look at are not random sites but people like Mark Gurman, Guiherme Rambo are reliable and know their stuff.
While it's true that the performance per watt didn't increase a ton, it's not true that it didn't increase at all - Intel was promoting a 5 – 7 % improvement due to the more refined manufacturing process using their "14 nm ++" node. Also, four cores running at 1.5 GHz shouldn't produce any more heat than two cores running at 3 GHz, but depending on the use case, the former might be faster. With the turbo boost being as flexible as it is, the new configuration with more cores is always an advantage compared to the previous gen.
It's natural for everything to grow (or shrink in this case) in cycles. Chips run into the power wall, which limits frequency and is no surprise. Chips have shrunk to the atom level. CPU designs have probably largely reached optimal levels in some sense. It's not at all strange that there are diminishing returns for current tech. Instead of moping about the presumed CPU stagnation, you could take the viewpoint that it's a complete miracle that we've come as far as we have already. And you can be pretty damn sure that we'll find ways to leap far beyond what computers can do today, science is just not quite there yet.
And I'm writing this on an 8700K (delidded) which runs quite cool and fast. It doesn't seem to be generating all that much heat at all, so idk.
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