richinaus: Don't be ridiculous. Everyone else uses 8th generation CPUs, yet Apple is lagging behind.
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Tend to agree, as it all falls apart if one needs performance in a portable platform. Right now Apple simply comes across as being clueless as to what it's professional audience needs and the ability to deliver.
Apple will only do the bare minimum to keep it's IOS Dev's relevant as for the rest of us, expect ever more watered down consumer garbage...
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EH, I wasn't talking about the latest CPU - they will update that soon enough.
You lot will be whinging when it gets updated with the CPU but will be 16gb RAM and not a strong GPU. The same as the last 8 years.
My point it they wont make the machines people on these boards want. end of story. Get a PC.
You are being ridiculous thinking that all your dreams will come true and that currently the sky is falling because they are lagging by what - 2 months? So what ! I am sure Tim Cook is crapping his pants over this........... shareholders will be selling up as we speak due to the mass loss of earnings. Or more likely they aren't that bothered with the 0.0001% of their revenue from the likes of you on Macrumors.
Do you honestly think the majority of people who buy Mac computers who put them in the top 5 manufacturers follow these forums, and are sat their eagerly awaiting their 6 core MBP, because they really need it? Have a look in stores and watch the type of customers Apple has. That will give you a clue to why they don't make workstation laptops.
Change your mindset and expectations and you will be a lot happier.
have fun !
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it does Q-6 but you and I know it aint going to happen ! I am being a realist not ridiculous.
And I will state the point - I want the same machine you guys all want. I just know it isn't ever coming, and got tired of building up my hopes, delaying decisions etc for something that just wont happen.
Agreed, equally it's beyond disappointing
fast becoming an exercise in futility... At the point of giving up, bring on the emoji's & watchbands ....Q-6
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I will not change my expecations as Apple has awful prices in the whole EU (EUR prices are incredibly high) and in my country they Apply "subcharge" (likely due to possible exchange rates fluctuations) which adds additional 5 % to the final price. 512G/16G 13" MBP w/TB costs 2350 USD with student discount without VAT here! If I am expected to pay that premium, I want the best hardware available.
Apple already missed the "graduation" season. Both of our college grads wanted new MBP's for gifts since their 4 year old HS gift laptops were ancient and beat up after 4 years of filling all the needs of a college student. It is such a natural gift for parents and grandparents to give, pre-college and pre-life after college
The 2017 model would surely last them a good three years through college.Apple already missed the "graduation" season. Both of our college grads wanted new MBP's for gifts since their 4 year old HS gift laptops were ancient and beat up after 4 years of filling all the needs of a college student. It is such a natural gift for parents and grandparents to give, pre-college and pre-life after college
They are both graduating from grad school this year and both (thank you lord) have excellent careers. A MBP did last for 4 years through college but needed to be replaced as a much welcomed graduation gift prior to grad school. Now, they're on their own as independent Apple customers .
That was actually the point of my post, that it was wrong to read anything into this. I said it pretty explicitly. So maybe you shouldn't quote out of context.
My challenge is that using Windows just makes me cringe. Stuff just doesn't work right, and life's too short to deal with it! It's true, I no longer do any kind of 3D modeling, but I've always pushed my maxed out late '13 MBP hard. I'm now doing more business stuff, but it's a lot of documents on 3 displays, occasional higher end video and Adobe apps. I push Excel pretty hard, and not having to use manual calculation is a good thing. I used to push an 8 core Mac Pro hard too, but those days are over, and now I'd like a RAM bump above 16 GB and good processing power, but I don't need an 8 core laptop. Should Apple make one if it can for users that need it? Sure. If it needs to be expensive because of the availability, that's okay.
Does your business invest and spend time on projects that hardly anyone will buy just so you know those few people are happy, even if it is not your core business and will hardly make you any money?
I get it, and I understand why there aren't monster Apple laptops for 1% users. I'm only saying that if there really is demand for it and there's availability of the parts, Apple has used high price before to provide options.
Who is asking for monster laptops? I don’t see the Windows laptop target audience being any different to Apples target audience - so one rightly can criticise Apple for not catching up. We talk about how the average person doesn’t know the difference between specs (may or may not be true) but yet, we have Windows manufacturers racing for the latest and greatest. Hmm?
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Haha, well this would not be an illness exclusive to Apple! Most businesses in this world focus on short-term effects on their stock price, and can't even grasp the concepts of causality and correlation. As a non-linear thinker, it's often bizarre to see the extremely obvious mistakes that are being made. And no, a large wallet does not appear to cure this illness.
I think Vega M GL (or M GH hopefully), should be around the corner.
I think that should appease the Solidworks crowd (like myself), and provide with some decent gaming ability with Med settings at 1080p for those that want it.
Vega was developed by AMD with the Mac in mind after all.
I think that should appease the Solidworks crowd (like myself), and provide with some decent gaming ability with Med settings at 1080p for those that want it.
Vega was developed by AMD with the Mac in mind after all.
Well looks like I’m out. Just got my system 76 oryx pro. It doesn’t have the build quality of the MBP but I can finally start doing local development.
Apple has lost a chunk of the market bc of their silly games
Apple has lost a chunk of the market bc of their silly games
I think you're inferring here. The article states that AMD's plan is semi-custom designs for major players like Apple, Sony and Microsoft. The 460/560 were designed for Mac, but it seems to me like the Kaby Lake GL is made for mostly for Intel's benefit.
I don't see why Apple would have let competitors debut with semi-custom chips that they partially funded.
I do hope you're right though....
quoted from the article towards the end:
“ That's because Vega wasn't built for gamers, or even for the AI and machine learning industries.
It was built for Apple because that's where the money is.”
I see your point though, but since I haven’t seen any other major manufacturer jump on it (with the exception of HP and the GL version), I really do hope that Apple surprises us and gives us the MH version.
That chip crushes even an GTX 1080Ti on the Specview 12 perf benchmarks ( a bunch of professional 3D apps like SW, NX, CATIA etc), and is not too shabby on the gaming front either.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-RX-Vega-M-GH-GPU.278680.0.html
It seems to me that AMD's current strategy (custom designing for Apple + heavily leaning on income from crypto GPU buyers) seems to revolve around securing the value market + custom clients like Sony and Apple, while getting enough cash in hand to build something that can compete more effectively in the HEDT and pro markets.
Even then, with stuff like optimization under OSX, we see pretty solid performance from AMD in certain compute workloads, so it's not like they don't have some good offerings on that front.
Even then, with stuff like optimization under OSX, we see pretty solid performance from AMD in certain compute workloads, so it's not like they don't have some good offerings on that front.