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I’m a college student who currently has no laptop and will need one before September. There’s probably a lot of people like me, so I don’t really understand why they would wait until October.
 
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Most of the time Apple launches their Back to School Promo in the middle of the second week of July. If we don't see anything new at the same time as them launching that, I think we are waiting until at least September.

One employee at a local Apple Store told me the same thing. He suggested me to wait until next week for a possible silent update and if nothing happens, think of another option. However, an employee from the same store also told me "for sure" that Apple would release a new MBP 2018 at WWDC.
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I’m a college student who currently has no laptop and will need one before September. There’s probably a lot of people like me, so I don’t really understand why they would wait until October.

Because under TC's management, Apple became a jerk and an a**ho*e.
 
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One employee at a local Apple Store told me the same thing. He suggested me to wait until next week for a possible silent update and if nothing happens, think of another option. However, an employee from the same store also told me "for sure" that Apple would release a new MBP 2018 at WWDC.
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Because under TC's management, Apple became a jerk and an a**ho*e.
I get your point, but Jobs was much more of an a**ho*e than Cook. Many of the things they’re doing with Mac just seem to defy logic.
 
I get your point, but Jobs was much more of an a**ho*e than Cook. Many of the things they’re doing with Mac just seem to defy logic.

At least as a customer, I was satisfied with Apple's "innovations", its products and customer services. There is nothing good about the MBP line under TC.
 
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I'm not holding out hope for this, but I feel like maybe part of the wait is a "partial" redesign. I'm thinking it will mostly revolve around fixing the keyboard and giving us thinner bezels. I don't keep up with all the ins and outs like some of you do, so maybe that's wishful thinking - but thinner bezels seem to be a talking point among a lot of people IRL. It may seem superfluous on this forum, but a lot of average joes go "wow that computer looks nice, such thin bezels!" which then makes them think it's better and faster somehow because its thinner and smaller. .... which Apple is obsessed with, so I'm thinking we might see a "partial" redesign to continue pursuing the thinner and smaller.

I won't lie, I would prefer thinner bezels too. It certainly wouldn't be a deal breaker though.
Well said. I think this is a point that gets far too little consideration in these forums. Most average customers will go by the look of the device, and by the numbers in the spec sheet. And they mostly don't understand what the numbers mean anyway, just that higher is better. So a pretty obvious strategy for selling more laptops would be to make them look "fast" or "modern" (the minimalist design being one way to achieve that) and then find ways to increase the numbers in the spec sheet at minimal cost, and without outright lying. Bending the rules would be fine with this strategy though, so set the turbo clock really really high, the base clock really low, and then make a really small and light machine that can handle (thermally) the base clock. If it ends up throttling (which it will) and never actually is able to sustain that boost clock in actual use, that doesn't actually matter so much because most ppl won't notice anyway. And of course, thinner bezels could actually be huge in terms of this strategy.

This is probably not quite what people in this forum wants. It's certainly not what I want. I would much prefer something like the opposite. I would be happier if they went with maybe one step lower grade chips, and instead made darn sure that they squeeze out every bit of performance of them and the whole package. This is a way of minimizing cost while maximizing performance. The other strategy is more like maximizing sales, minimizing cost, and maintain just enough performance to avoid the lawsuits.

Sad truth is, the former strategy is probably always do better in our current financial system. The latter strategy lends itself better to hobby projects. And it's a bit the same with software actually, which is why hobby projects and non-profit projects are increasingly producing better software than commercial ones.
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When looking at the competition, it seems like Apple could make the MacBook Pro thinner and lighter while keeping both battery life and performance on the same level (i.e. using chips with the same TDP). I really hope they take this opportunity, since 1.3 kg is on the upper end of what I would like to carry with me all day together with all my other stuff, but I don't expect them to actually change anything significant on the chassis for the next model.
Maybe they could drop to 8G max RAM and remove half of the ports, that might shave off 100g and half a millimeter.
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I’m a college student who currently has no laptop and will need one before September. There’s probably a lot of people like me, so I don’t really understand why they would wait until October.
Because they would prefer to channel their current surplus to students, and then do a wave of releases to people with more money available?
 
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An analyst at Forbes thinks that the new Macs will be released via press release and updates to the product page, in order to not take away attention from new iPhones. https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewansp...mark-specs-release-date-surface/#32d829085003
If it's a CPU/GPU bump and some other minor tweaks then that's what makes the most sense. Even if they were to fix the keyboard and drop the bezels, that's still not enough to justify much talk about it on stage.
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Hey guys! My Magic 8-Ball has been telling me a positive new 2018 MacBook/Pro's this Tuesday eight times in a row!!! That's gotta be something, right?
Heey, my magic 6-sided die, work for me now. Will they release on Tuesday, show me 1-6 if yes, and anything else for no.

You might want to take that 8-ball to a repair shop...
 
If it's a CPU/GPU bump and some other minor tweaks then that's what makes the most sense. Even if they were to fix the keyboard and drop the bezels, that's still not enough to justify much talk about it on stage.
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Heey, my magic 6-sided die, work for me now. Will they release on Tuesday, show me 1-6 if yes, and anything else for no.

You might want to take that 8-ball to a repair shop...

Uhmm...no way...it's been my reliable 8-Ball for years now. What does your generic ;) 6-sided die say?
 
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I’ll take Monday too. :)

I don't remember what he said about Monday. I think he said something like either Apple usually releases new products for back to school on Monday or the day after Monday. If they don't announce anything descent by Tuesday, I will probably get a Windows laptop. It is really a pain to carry so many things with a 3kg laptop each day.
 
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Absolutely disappointed with Apple. I've waited long enough with the money in my pocket. I really need a new laptop before September but obviously I am not going to buy a laptop with a faulty keyboard. I'll wait a couple of weeks and if they don't release the new MBP I'll definitely go for a Dell XPS.

I know at least 5 people in the same situation than me. That's only around 7K $ less for Apple, but empires fall little by little, following a flow of many individual actions like these.
 
Absolutely disappointed with Apple. I've waited long enough with the money in my pocket. I really need a new laptop before September but obviously I am not going to buy a laptop with a faulty keyboard. I'll wait a couple of weeks and if they don't release the new MBP I'll definitely go for a Dell XPS.

I know at least 5 people in the same situation than me. That's only around 7K $ less for Apple, but empires fall little by little, following a flow of many individual actions like these.

lol, for every one that doesn't buy there's one that does. Besides Apple's makes their primary cash with iPhones & iOS.

Apple can't cater to every single individual's timing. One needs a laptop now, another one in few weeks, another one maybe in fall or winter.

Luckily I never had issues with these new keyboards. And I like them much better than the old ones except for how loud the new ones are.
 
I don't remember what he said about Monday. I think he said something like either Apple usually releases new products for back to school on Monday or the day after Monday. If they don't announce anything descent by Tuesday, I will probably get a Windows laptop. It is really a pain to carry so many things with a 3kg laptop each day.

They used to always release new things on Tuesdays, until at some point a couple of years ago they released things not on a Tuesday :D
 
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I guess if there’s only touchbar models of the 15” incoming that means the 2015 lives on another year as the entry level machine? I’d probably be fine with that at this point if they spec bumped it to an i7-8559U or something...
 
I absolutely need at least the performance of an Core i5-8250U with its four cores to get any work done. Am I really asking too much for when I want a notebook with a CPU of this class in a chassis as portable as the current XPS 13?
You really feel that the rMBP is too thick and heavy? (no sarcasm, genuine interest)
 
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You really feel that the rMBP is too thick and heavy? (no sarcasm, genuine interest)

I don't really care about the thickness (though it's impressive just how thin the XPS is compared to the MBP), but I'm thankful for every gram of weight I can save. I want to bring the MacBook Pro with me on assignments, and I prefer to use a shoulder bag since I need to have quick access to some stuff in the bag.

This often means that I have a bag over one shoulder for five plus hours without pause. While I already tried to make it as light as possible, it still weighs about 4 kg without a notebook - and that can already hurt pretty badly after multiple hours. If Apple could shave off a couple hundred grams from the 13" MacBook Pro, I'd be thankful for sure.
 
I don't really care about the thickness (though it's impressive just how thin the XPS is compared to the MBP), but I'm thankful for every gram of weight I can save. I want to bring the MacBook Pro with me on assignments, and I prefer to use a shoulder bag since I need to have quick access to some stuff in the bag.

This often means that I have a bag over one shoulder for five plus hours without pause. While I already tried to make it as light as possible, it still weighs about 4 kg without a notebook - and that can already hurt pretty badly after multiple hours. If Apple could shave off a couple hundred grams from the 13" MacBook Pro, I'd be thankful for sure.

The thing that really impress me with the XPS's is that they have that lovely neat form factor and yet still allow user replaceable RAM, SSD, batteries!

So without meaning to patronise - your problem is not the weight of the bag its the shoulder strap. Any bag that asymmetrically distributed across your shoulders will hurt after long enough. A backpack is a much better solution ergonomically. What I do when I'm travelling is use a backpack, and simply shift it around on my shoulders so that it is to my front when I want to access something. It takes a little practice but now I often do this while carrying another bag also. Now I'm usually not doing this to type on a laptop however, but its easier for accessing the bag than unloading everything from my back!

There is also some special use options: https://www.wolffepack.com/pages/learn-more#
Just found this googling I've no clue how good it might be
another make: https://www.mindshiftgear.com/products/rotation180-trail
again no clue how good it is - Edit: might not fit a laptop:
 
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