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Waiting for the 2018 MBP
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I order myself a 13” i7, but these thing costs me a kidney. They give scientists a free Beats too, you don’t have to be a student at all 
I hope I don’t have to sells my testicles for the 2019 model, pfffff
I hope I don’t have to sells my testicles for the 2019 model, pfffff
Apparently the speakers have been upgraded too?
[doublepost=1531529948][/doublepost]https://ifixit.org/blog/10279/apple-macbook-keyboard-cover-up/
There's now a silicon membrane under the keycaps!
[doublepost=1531529948][/doublepost]https://ifixit.org/blog/10279/apple-macbook-keyboard-cover-up/
There's now a silicon membrane under the keycaps!
Awesome. Now show me some stress test results on these keyboards in a beach or blow some sands on them and see if they still hold up. I'm ready to drop 6k if they can pass these tests and no, I won't buy one and blow sands on them myself.
That's what internet is there for. I don't upgrade my laptop every year or every 2 years like some rich folks so I need it to last as long as it can once I buy one.
In that case I would definitely buy the 2018, since you can afford it. Either would be fine now, the hexacore will age much better. Think about 5 years from now. From 2023 to 2026, you’ll be glad you have a six-core machine and not just a quad core.
Those last 3 years will be easier to get through with six cores than if you only had four. And years 1-5 will be more productive and enjoyable as well!
Awesome. Now show me some stress test results on these keyboards in a beach or blow some sands on them and see if they still hold up. I'm ready to drop 6k if they can pass these tests and no, I won't buy one and blow sands on them myself.
Pff, every 3 years thank you very much.
Agree this is a solid update, answering vast majority of the performance concerns. We will see soon enough as the better unbiased reviews roll in regarding the limits of the performance.
Personally still not in love with the port solution and the keyboard, equally as package the MBP now presents far less of a compromise for the serious user.
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Assuming you’re using OS X it’s rigth in front of your nose
I'm WAY too bored to list all the software niceties again. So I just name a few select ones:
- Preview, try opening and EDITING images, and especially PDFs in Windows! Try removing pages or ADDING pages to an existing PDF file in Windows! You can't?! Yes that's right. Buy Acrobat Pro for that!
- Time Machine, Windows backups do NOT compare
- iWork, MS Office is NOT for free... what do you get there? Open Office...hahahha
- the ability to actually CHANGE ICC profiles for your displays. Supposedly it works in Windows too... honestly though... even with a guide or manual I simply cannot get it to work... because you have to jump thru one million menues.
- Talking about menues... why is EVERYTHING hidden in 10 submenues? In Windows 10 you usually start with a Metro UI menu and window... but as soon as you want to do something slightly more advanced it takes you back to NT style menues and windows... ugh.
Plus. It's impossible to DEFEND Windows. Because with the Macs... if you REALLY ALSO NEED IT. Good... install it too.
And just for reference... I started using Windows with 3.1 (technically even DOS 5.0) and went through every iteration.
Another thing I hate about Windows USERS (this time). When we/I complain about Windows... I KNOW what I am talking about. When most Windows users complain about macOS... and that it is "complicated" (because they don't find the Internet or File Explorer...for example) they have used macOS a COMBINED TIME of 10mins... over the last 10 years...
What computer users who understand the OS's they use dislike, is people who clearly don't understand the OS, needing to blame the provider for their own inadequacies...
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Yeah but which i7 - the 2.2Ghz or the 2.6Ghz ?
[doublepost=1531556530][/doublepost]Lads more benchmarks are up on Geekbench:
https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/431
15" Core i9:
Single core: 5289 Multi-core:22201
Wow that is quite the score!
I was hoping for around 25k and 5500 on SC, but okay those are doable...
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Ooh hot dang they got them all on the list now if I scroll down
looks like I could live with the 2.3Ghz 16GB 512GB 13” probably if only looking at Geekbench scores (though the 15” has many other advantages so I’ll wait to see real world tests)
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To be fair, his rant about the UI is spot on.
I would also add app installations, and especially registry editor. Registry in Windows 10 is a dinosaur who simply can't die, because then MS would loose their compatibility with older windows version, and 99% of the software.
I find Windows 10 to be good enough. It has some advantages over Linux distros (3rd party support to be the biggest of all), but compared to Mac OS it isn't even in the same league. Better then older versions, but not there yet. And I use windows 10 every day, especially because I do a lot of .NET development.
Only reason I'm willing to purchase MBP is because of Mac OS. If it weren't for that, MBP wouldn't even be in top 15 of my list. But Mac OS makes up for any other flaw I can find in MBP. Perfect? Of course not, far from it. But way better then anything else out there. For now.
I’ve been agonising over the 15” and the 13” and until this morning was still undecided.
I’m probably a light user, I use Sketch, some light photoshop, a bit of iOS dev, some occasional video editing and possibly some twitch streaming.
The 15” I saw today just seems too big. I love the idea of six cores and a dGPU, but seeing it in the flesh today I just don’t think I could use it.
So a maxed out 13” for me with an eGPU for the light gaming that I will do. Does this sound sensible? I also have a 4K 27” monitor at home to use with it.
Also, as for eGPU I like the Blackmagic because of the ports on the back, I’ll only ever need one lead into my laptop, but what are the other options out there? I’m a little clueless about this stuff.
For reference I’m moving from a late 2013 retina MacBook Pro so this is going to be quite the jump for me.
I’m probably a light user, I use Sketch, some light photoshop, a bit of iOS dev, some occasional video editing and possibly some twitch streaming.
The 15” I saw today just seems too big. I love the idea of six cores and a dGPU, but seeing it in the flesh today I just don’t think I could use it.
So a maxed out 13” for me with an eGPU for the light gaming that I will do. Does this sound sensible? I also have a 4K 27” monitor at home to use with it.
Also, as for eGPU I like the Blackmagic because of the ports on the back, I’ll only ever need one lead into my laptop, but what are the other options out there? I’m a little clueless about this stuff.
For reference I’m moving from a late 2013 retina MacBook Pro so this is going to be quite the jump for me.
I've said this already, you're paying double the market rate for all MBP upgrades. If you think maxing them out is your best choice, then good luck! The eGPU will drive that monitor just fine, at least in 1440p
I think I've settled on a 13" as well, now I just have to decide if it's going to be a MBP or a Linux laptop. But I'll give it a cpl months, I'm not in any immediate rush.
With the 13-inch models, does anybody know how much video ram the Intel Pro shares with the main memory? Thanks
I'm going to emulate what many others have said in this thread. The time has finally come and I will be upgrading from my late 2013 11" Macbook Air with 1.7 i7. My wife has a 15" 2017 MBP and I can't go from the 11" Air to a 15" so I will be going with a 13" MBP with the 2.7 i7, 16gb, and 1tb hard drive.
I'm still a full time student at this point so my primary use will be related to school work (Word, PowerPoint, SPSS). We share a 2017 27" iMac in our office so I don't need the laptop to do anything graphics related, but I really just wanted to get something with a retina screen.
I'm really excited to get something new (come on, getting a new gadget is fun no matter what) but does anyone think I will be fine sticking with the i5 processor and just use the money on much needed accessories? I plan to keep this laptop for at least another 5-6 years so I usually max everything out that I can't upgrade on my own.
Thanks for reading my long rant, but I am open to suggestions and opinions.
I'm still a full time student at this point so my primary use will be related to school work (Word, PowerPoint, SPSS). We share a 2017 27" iMac in our office so I don't need the laptop to do anything graphics related, but I really just wanted to get something with a retina screen.
I'm really excited to get something new (come on, getting a new gadget is fun no matter what) but does anyone think I will be fine sticking with the i5 processor and just use the money on much needed accessories? I plan to keep this laptop for at least another 5-6 years so I usually max everything out that I can't upgrade on my own.
Thanks for reading my long rant, but I am open to suggestions and opinions.
The i5 and i7 are effectively the same chip, just with the i7 clocking a little bit higher. You may see a difference in benchmarks, but in real world you'd be lucky if there's even a 5% performance gain with the i7. And you're effectively paying the price of a full CPU for the upgrade. You'll be way better off spending that money on accessories imo. It's sort of the same with the hard drive, the upgrade price is really high compared to market rates. So you could probably get a 512G plus a 1-2TB external drive for the same money. That may or may not suit your situation, but might be worth considering. RAM is a no-brainer to max out though.
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The i5 is fine. That i5-8259U is as fast as my 2017 iMac's Core i5-7600.
The extra cache on the 8259U really seems to help, as my 7600 is much higher clocked but has significantly less cache.
I’d love to see how well the 13” iGPU performs, at least the lack of dGPU means one less point of potential failure, and if it runs 4K and stuff without fans kicking I’d be even more tempted for the 13” as I don’t see myself investing in an external dGPU
I've said this already, you're paying double the market rate for all MBP upgrades. If you think maxing them out is your best choice, then good luck! The eGPU will drive that monitor just fine, at least in 1440p
I think I've settled on a 13" as well, now I just have to decide if it's going to be a MBP or a Linux laptop. But I'll give it a cpl months, I'm not in any immediate rush.
So what do you recommend?
It's £270 for the 2.7 i7 over the 2.3 i5 and for the RAM, well I'm quite surprised they're still offering 8GB tbh so that'll always be 16GB for me.
In my opinion, there's only one question on what to max and that's the processor. If the i7 really isn't worth the extra £270 then I'll stick with the base model. I should have said I'm going for 1TB not 2TB. There's no way I'm spending another £800 when I have storage at home.
So, I guess the questions are:
- Is it really worth going to the i7 from the i5
- What are the relative options against the Blackmagic eGPU, for £600 what better options are there, considering I'd also use it as my hub for all accessories?