Populus
macrumors 604
Yeah, I posted here that piece of news yesterday , It looks like cannonlake is going to catch Ice Lake in launch frame time.
Waiting for the 2018 MBP
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A7ibaba
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Its been 6 months that i sold my mid-2012 retina and regret it deeplynow i have to bite the bullet for a mid-2017 waiting for a proper “pro” to come out
Probably wouldnt have to blame apple or intel, just me
Yea, you gained nothing, especialy if you have SSD installed and 16 gb ram. You lost I/O ports
iliasp
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on the retina its was only blade style apple ssd, so 512 SSD and 16GB RAM
incredible machine, still top performer by today standards
TheHurryKayne
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Populus
macrumors 604
I'm so sorry for you man... You should'n have sold it so soon...
I'd buy a machine like yours with eyes closed. I returned my 2015 partially due to the 128GB SSD and 8GB of RAM, and no other configuration was available.
Cheer up! 2017 aren't bad machines.
iliasp
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Sure they arent, just way too pricey
Falhófnir
macrumors 603
It’d be nice if they moved to 3360x2100 and 2880x1800 screens for the 15 and 13 inch models respectively at some point to reinstate pixel doubling at the new standard scaled resolutions. The scaling does take a bit of a toll on sharpness when it’s not an exact multiple. I don’t think those resolutions would be too taxing, the igpu in the 13” is already as powerful as the iris pro 5200 in the 2015 15” - the only potential hitch is the newer 15” pros have moved to being dgpu only as intel have discontinued the high end igpus from 47W chips. This might make the HDx20 graphics a bit redundant as power saving, though it’s only just over 7M pixels vs just over 5M for 2880x1800.
Ryzen Mobile could be that CPU
It seems so: https://www.pcworld.com/article/319...ff-with-the-new-ryzen-pro-not-far-behind.html
Wow this sounds like an amazing alternative. But will Apple go for it?
unobtainium
macrumors 68030
So what’s the current expectation for 13” MBPs in 2018? Coffee Lake with four cores, or is that out?
Not sure what architecture and don't really care but either CFL or CNL 13'' MBPs with 4 cores is my expectation for WWDC 2018 (spring if we're lucky but doubt it).
I'm pretty sure there will be another Apple conference this year to debut the HomePod and iMac Pro. After Apple updated the MacBook Pro in June (roughly eight months after this new model debuted) it's not too much of a stretch to think there will be another model 6 months later. The question is will it be just a spec bump or upgrade? After the negativity that Apple received which caused them to naval gaze I think that they might start listening to consumers and release a full upgerade.. I'm pretty sure the next revision will offer 32GB of RAM, a pro standard graphics card and maybe remove the touch bar.
*sigh*
KarmaRocket
macrumors 6502
IMHO, if Apple does release another update to the MBP later this year, it will only be a slight spec upgrade. If they are taking a more serious approach to the pro platform 6 months might be too little time for a redesign. I think next spring we will see a new redesign of the MBP with slightly beefier specs. It's just a matter of what chips they can get from Intel.
*double sigh*
Why are you sure of these things exactly?
Can you point to where you get the facts from, because as much as I would like to believe you to be right, I am pretty sure you won't be.
TheHurryKayne
macrumors regular
I don't think there will be another Apple Conference,High Sierra will be out next 25 and i don't see Federighi jumping again on the Jobs Theatre for this.
I think touchbar is here to stay,there won't be any new event for Imac pro.
If only the macbook could gain one more port and the non touch bar macbook pro gain...i don't see any change in the laptop features happening ,Intel apart, perhaps this could make the entire line a little messy.
Macbook has one port no thunderbolt ( i suppose the reason is the tech inside but follow me ) .
The entry 13 macbook pro 2 ports thunderbolt 3 and no touch bar ,
then we have the one with touchbar and 4 ports
and then the 15 with 4 tb3 ports and the touch bar.
Just wondering but what if the 13 gains the quad ?
Is this ...gonna happen?
- Macbook
- Macbook pro 13 entry dual + 16 GB and quad core bto
- Macbook pro 13 touch bar quad core + 16/32 GB bto
- Macbook pro 15 quad core with 16 GB + exacore and 32 GB BTO
In the meanwhile i'm getting the 13 non touch bar + 16 GB and i7 bto.
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doitdada
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Coffee Lake is out 5. October on desktop, but mobile may be early 2018, so WWDC 2018 as developers are the only viable customer at the moment. Students buy Chromebooks, and the Google suite is a lot stronger than Pages or Numbers will be. Keynote is still good, but who cares?
TheHurryKayne
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Ok, thanks and quad core for 13 inches? Or just with CannonLake,Ice Lake?
doitdada
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I guess quad core with good enough integrated graphics will be a part of Cannon Lake or Ice Lake since the less heat produced with the 10nm manufacturing process will make it reach low enough temps to fit into the thin bodies of the current lineup. Most of the Kaby Lake revisions with quad core you are seeing now being launched have included a dedicated GPU and most of the models are being released with Nvidia Geforce MX150 or likewise. Heat is still a problem in all 15" with four cores, the fans are never idle and spin continuously at 2000rpm.
If I was Apple I would wait for 10nm in order to avoid problems with heat. The increased potential shown by Intel is probably done with a dedicated cooler on a test bench, and results may vary with different setups concerning space, heat and the builds ability to lower temperatures. One thing is to have the technology, the other part is to make the performance durable and portable.
Most of the machines you will see on the market with the new Kaby Lake S quad cores may also have loud fans and most of the laptops are geared against gamers that also endure quite loud spikes in decibel on their desktops as well as their laptops. They may not be so sensitive to high pitched fan noise from hot components in stark contrast from the average Apple buyer. Mac users have a tendency to uncover all flaws with their computers from launch day one.
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macagain
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I'm holding out for this too. I'd like to think that it has a pretty good chance of happening, given that compared to iThings, the mac's pixel is pretty dismal. I'd bet (hope) that having the macbook pro's ship with default res set a scaled setting is driving some of the more detail obsessed people (e.g. Sir Jonny) nuts. The 2880 screens have been around for 5 years now, and the pc's have been shipping with 3200 screens for quite some time now... I'd bet that the 3360 aren't too far away.
Finger crossed...