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Waiting for the 2018 MBP

Uni Grad said:
So with all this talk about the new iPhone, I think the new MBPs might gain the following features over the next few years:

-OLED screen (after the iPad, MBP is usually next or will they just hold out until microLED)
-Face ID (honestly this would work better perfectly on a laptop, the minute you lift the lid, BAM, logged in)
-Wireless charging (then all other USB C ports will only be used for data transfer - would really help MacBook users)

Let me know when you guys think we'll have these features by?
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-FaceID I think will come first given the focus on AR and it's also easier to do. I'd say next years MBP- i..e fast
- Wirelss charging. It depends on how far they are on the iphone which we'll see Tuesday. If they are just using existing standards, I'd say we are nowhere near anything new here. But I'm skeptical Apple launches this Tuesday without their own spin like others have doen which have greater range so the device doesnt have to be on the pad. If they launch that which I think they will- maybe w/ in 2 years on MBP?
 
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Hello everybody,
I've just registered to Macrumours even though I've been checking the site and reading your threads about the MBP for some time now.
I'm evaluating what to buy after 8+ years with a glorious MB white late 2006 and 3 years of limbo with a gaming Windows PC.
The new MBPs look damn sweet, but Apple prices are holding me back from getting a new MBP.
I mean, here in Germany a non-TB base model goes for 1500€ (approx. 1800$)!

Plus, this morning I've seen this
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...xiaomi-mi-notebook-pro-features-specs-pricing
and jeez, this thing looks good. I don't know whether to pay a 1000€ mark-up only for OSX makes still sense, especially for a non-professional use.
I hope this kind of competition will make Apple reconsider their pricing strategy.
 
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skogkatt said:
Hello everybody,
I've just registered to Macrumours even though I've been checking the site and reading your threads about the MBP for some time now.
I'm evaluating what to buy after 8+ years with a glorious MB white late 2006 and 3 years of limbo with a gaming Windows PC.
The new MBPs look damn sweet, but Apple prices are holding me back from getting a new MBP.
I mean, here in Germany a non-TB base model goes for 1500€ (approx. 1800$)!

Plus, this morning I've seen this
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...xiaomi-mi-notebook-pro-features-specs-pricing
and jeez, this thing looks good. I don't know whether to pay a 1000€ mark-up only for OSX makes still sense, especially for a non-professional use.
I hope this kind of competition will make Apple reconsider their pricing strategy.
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So I would not have been saying this in the past about an Apple macbook, however, if you intend on keeping your next laptop for as long as your previous 2, then you need to put some thought into the keyboard issues the latests MBPs have been having:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mbp-keyboard-is-a-total-fail.2064226/page-8#post-24987009

The other thing is that intel have just started releasing a new wave of chips, and they have only released the first batch of chips for low end laptops. Right now is a time to wait and see when the higher spec chips come out and Apple and Windows manufacturers have updated their lines.
 
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Waiting for the faster chips goes against the argument of keeping the notebook for a lot of years anyway. Next year comes the 14++ process chips and after that you would wait for the 10+ nm chips. Therefore you would keep waiting if you think that way.

The MacBook Pro keyboard clearly has reliability issues. We do not know the extend yet, but having issues after just a few weeks or months is a very very bad indicator for what is to come after a few years.

If I were you I would try to get a used 2014/2015 13" MacBook Pro in good condition from a trustable source. Those machines are rock solid and proven in their design. You safe a lot of money this way too and can just wait how the situation develops.
 
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Nik said:
Waiting for the faster chips goes against the argument of keeping the notebook for a lot of years anyway. Next year comes the 14++ process chips and after that you would wait for the 10+ nm chips. Therefore you would keep waiting if you think that way.

The MacBook Pro keyboard clearly has reliability issues. We do not know the extend yet, but having issues after just a few weeks or months is a very very bad indicator for what is to come after a few years.

If I were you I would try to get a used 2014/2015 13" MacBook Pro in good condition from a trustable source. Those machines are rock solid and proven in their design. You safe a lot of money this way too and can just wait how the situation develops.
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There is a step changes happening in chips right now with extra cores being added, dual to quad and quad to hex. This is not a normal 'time to wait'. The simple fact is, the chips with extra cores will have greater longevity (assuming they are reliable). Now, more than ever, is the time to wait for the new chips to come out.
 
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The Mercurian said:
There is a step changes happening in chips right now with extra cores being added, dual to quad and quad to hex. This is not a normal 'time to wait'. The simple fact is, the chips with extra cores will have greater longevity (assuming they are reliable). Now, more than ever, is the time to wait for the new chips to come out.
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I have yet so see evidence that this happens while maintaining the same GPU speed. Have you seen any quad core CPUs with 640 or 650 graphics? I did not.

Furthermore, my suggestion easily gives the OP the opportunity to wait for great machines because he safes quite a lot of money by buying a used machine.
 
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Nik said:
I have yet so see evidence that this happens while maintaining the same GPU speed. Have you seen any quad core CPUs with 640 or 650 graphics? I did not.

Furthermore, my suggestion easily gives the OP the opportunity to wait for great machines because he safes quite a lot of money by buying a used machine.
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They have not all been released yet, as I said above.
 
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I'm praying every day that we see a 17" resurface with the thickness of the last gen rMBP. 32 GB of RAM and hopefully a vega GPU (for the occasional gaming on the go). After buying a 27 inch 1440p monitor I really hate coding on my 15 inch. I remember I once used a friend's 17" to edit his code and while the resolution isn't great anymore, the size of the screen was incredible. I felt like his device could be so much more productive. Plus, I don't like coding at a desk. I do my best coding sitting at a couch typing away on my laptop. I'm still a student so I can get away with the no desk lifestyle. As a result I rely on the integrated display of my rMBP. Even if Apple comes out with a MBP with a 17" screen with no additional benefits I think I'll buy it. 1st gen rMBP's have really started to slow down. Wake up time from sleep is excruciatingly slow now given how fast it was at launch. And I am definitely not starting with a fresh install if a new computer is around the corner. Too much would have to be re set up and piss me off during the last few months of its lifetime. I'm only willing to do that on a new machine.

Edit: Oh I forgot to mention how much I want the battery to bigger than current gen. 2016's MBP had the worst battery life I could possibly have imagined given how many years its been since my 2012 came out. I got the same or worse battery life with a 2016 as with a 2012 rMBP that was 4 years old!!
 
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youdontsay said:
According to this link, if you configure a macbook pro in the apple store, the shipping date will slip to 22/26 of september. it could mean a refresh, or nothing :p If someone can check the UK or US apple store to see if it's the same thing ;)

http://www.macg.co/materiel/2017/09...pas-forcement-signe-de-nouveaux-modeles-99670
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Nah. Sorry to rain on the parade but this is the delay due to people getting back to school and everyone ordering their MacBooks. Source? An Apple Store employee told me when I went to get my 2017 MacBook Pro the other day and I quizzed her on the delay. She said its about right for this time of year with everyone buying new laptops for the new term.
 
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JPizzers said:
Nah. Sorry to rain on the parade but this is the delay due to people getting back to school and everyone ordering their MacBooks. Source? An Apple Store employee told me when I went to get my 2017 MacBook Pro the other day and I quizzed her on the delay. She said its about right for this time of year with everyone buying new laptops for the new term.
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Oh well :(
 
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The more I use my work's rMBP, the more I realise that over time, the biggest hinderance to the MBP is the RAM. Being a Web Designer/Developer, I am personally looking at investing in a MBP for myself. One that will last more then a few years. Seeing as I tend to use Illustrator/Photoshop as well as have other programs open to develop (ie Brackets/Sourcetree etc), it seems that I am very quickly hitting the limit with my 8GB RAM work machine.

I do wonder, if a few years down the line, when we see an update here and there to the software I use, that I will max out my 8GB and will have to reduce the number of open apps I use at anyone time.

In any case; yes it's great having faster CPU's and better GPU's, but the biggest problem for the MBP going forward has to be the RAM and SSD.

So as I've stated before, I really hope Apple up the RAM and SSD to a standard 16GB and 256GB starting next year. If not, then I would not advise any Web Designer come Developer to purchase a new MBP with 8GB as they will have to sell it shortly afterwards.
 
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Uni Grad said:
So with all this talk about the new iPhone, I think the new MBPs might gain the following features over the next few years:

-OLED screen (after the iPad, MBP is usually next or will they just hold out until microLED)
-Face ID (honestly this would work better perfectly on a laptop, the minute you lift the lid, BAM, logged in)
-Wireless charging (then all other USB C ports will only be used for data transfer - would really help MacBook users)

Let me know when you guys think we'll have these features by?
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OLED is still damn expensive. It would be nice, but I don't expect it in laptops anytime soon.
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davygee said:
The more I use my work's rMBP, the more I realise that over time, the biggest hinderance to the MBP is the RAM. Being a Web Designer/Developer, I am personally looking at investing in a MBP for myself. One that will last more then a few years. Seeing as I tend to use Illustrator/Photoshop as well as have other programs open to develop (ie Brackets/Sourcetree etc), it seems that I am very quickly hitting the limit with my 8GB RAM work machine.

I do wonder, if a few years down the line, when we see an update here and there to the software I use, that I will max out my 8GB and will have to reduce the number of open apps I use at anyone time.

In any case; yes it's great having faster CPU's and better GPU's, but the biggest problem for the MBP going forward has to be the RAM and SSD.

So as I've stated before, I really hope Apple up the RAM and SSD to a standard 16GB and 256GB starting next year. If not, then I would not advise any Web Designer come Developer to purchase a new MBP with 8GB as they will have to sell it shortly afterwards.
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Sadly, I would bet very heavily against this. I could see 8gb/256gb as a base model, though.
 
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potatis said:
Is HDR to be expected to be included in the next revision of retina screens for the MBP/iMac? Now that iTunes movies will be 4K HDR.
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4k HDR will take a toll on the battery life. Given the unwillingness of Apple to increase battery size, I guess 4k will only be an option when they move to 10nm icelake chip with better power efficiency.... that will be hmm... at least 2 years from now?

Or is there a lower power display technology being developed right now? 'Compromise' seems like the most important word in MBP design dictionary.

Just a reference, the first retina display iPhone was released in 2010, while the first retina display MBP was released in 2012.
 
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I dont think it will be released in march 2018 isnt that stupid they jus released the macbook 2017 a few months ago?
 
esaelias said:
I dont think it will be released in march 2018 isnt that stupid they jus released the macbook 2017 a few months ago?
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With the exception of the 2016 MacBook Pro, Apple updated the line roughly every 9 months. The 2017 notebooks came 9 months after the 2016 suggesting a return to this timescale so a March/April update is quite likely. Not guaranteed, nothing ever is, but I'd say there is a good chance we'll see something.
 
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Don't know,i suppose i'll have to pull the trig and buy an entry noTB 13 MacBook Pro then next Spring i could still sell it for a shiny 13 Quad core with 32 GB if ever
 
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