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Waiting for the 2019 MBP [Merged]

c0ppo said:
@Ploki

Mine cable was active, not passive. And it's that cable 9to5mac is talking about.
I just read their article, and maybe something was wrong with my cable? I can't think of any other reason for my bad experience. eGPU ran just fine with included cable, but I had significant issues while using caldigit cable.

In the attachment there is a showing of my amazon order of that cable :confused:View attachment 811362
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wierd. I got that cable with the TS3+ (swapped it for the 0.5m while it was there for service)

so many faulty stuff lately
 
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A lot of pessimism in this thread now! There is rightfully a lot of disappointment about Apple's current lineup, but there's a pretty clear path forward for the MBP.

I am optimistic about performance improvements in the redesign. AMD is on track to be able to provide Apple a part that can provide the same or more graphics performance in a smaller thermal envelope. There's still the question of whether Intel can do the same. I expect Apple wants a 35W hexacore package for the 15". Sunny cove cores should theoretically be able to do this if Intel can make them exist.

As some people have brought up, the killer app is probably bezel-less displays, using OLED if they can secure enough supply from LG. Like the 2012 retina, an OLED display would be something that sets Macbooks apart from laptops. Unlike Dell and Lenovo, Apple can guarantee a large enough order to make production worth LG's time.

I/O won't change. But it will be mostly sorted out by 2020. Your external drive already uses USB-C. Your PS5 controller will use USB-C. You'll connect to your TV wirelessly with your newer better iTV, and you'll connect to your friend's TV through their chromecast.

If there is a matter of serious concern it's the keyboard and touch bar. Apple knows they need to change course here. Let's just pray they don't try to "innovate" any more than they already have...
 
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Hi, I can't read 42 pages of messages, sorry if this has been asked before. Do you think that this year we'll see a simple spec bump or perhaps some new feature such as a screen with reduced bezels?
 
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windows12 said:
Hi, I can't read 42 pages of messages, sorry if this has been asked before. Do you think that this year we'll see a simple spec bump or perhaps some new feature such as a screen with reduced bezels?
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Judging by the current upgrade cycle (4 years), no new model until 2020.
I believe 2019 will get a spec bump only, but it's just an educated guess - nobody can know that, and we can only base that on rumors and experience.
So far, there has been no rumors regarding a redesign.

Last time around, rumors of new case surfaced 5 months before it was released.
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/31/macbook-pro-leaked-photos-oled-touch-panel/
 
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awesomedeluxe said:
Your PS5 controller will use USB-C.
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I truly hope so. Being able to only charge my PS4 controllers with micro-USB and not with any of my USB-C cables lying around is already a nuisance; it would be a huge letdown if the next "future of gaming" console generation presumably coming out in 2020 would be stuck with micro USB yet again for another 7 years when the rest of the market has moved on already.

Personally I've had little trouble with the I/O of my 2018 MBP, I have a hub but I barely use it since I already switched out the cables on my existing external hard drives for cables with USB-C on one side. Nevertheless, I hope the transition to USB-C in the accessory market doesn't drag on for too long. If I had some classical ports on my MBP next to the USB-C ones I surely wouldn't complain, but I can't say that I'm unhappy with the MBP of my MBP I/O either.
 
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Ploki said:
Judging by the current upgrade cycle (4 years), no new model until 2020.
I believe 2019 will get a spec bump only, but it's just an educated guess - nobody can know that, and we can only base that on rumors and experience.
So far, there has been no rumors regarding a redesign.

Last time around, rumors of new case surfaced 5 months before it was released.
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/31/macbook-pro-leaked-photos-oled-touch-panel/
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I wouldn't be shocked if they redesigned early this time around. I'm sure they're financially fed up with having to replace keyboards and topcases by the thousands.
 
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c0ppo said:
And the problem is that longer TB3 cable won't help, it will only degrade performance. Longer the cable, worse the performance.
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Get an active one: they in no way reduce performance. There has been an article on this somewhere, comparing 2m active and 0.5m passive cables.
 
Flabasha said:
I wouldn't be shocked if they redesigned early this time around. I'm sure they're financially fed up with having to replace keyboards and topcases by the thousands.
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They have their math done, they didn't include the silicone for barrier two years since the first butterfly came out, and the forums are a bad place to gauge such things, because:
- it's mostly people who know their laptops (smaller subset)
- out of those, it's mostly visited by people who have issues

I know of at least 4 working 2016-2017 MBPs with no keyboard issues, but my i9 2018 had them.

If there was a new design coming in half a year, I'm sure we would have heard about it.
 
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awesomedeluxe said:
A lot of pessimism in this thread now! There is rightfully a lot of disappointment about Apple's current lineup, but there's a pretty clear path forward for the MBP.

I am optimistic about performance improvements in the redesign. AMD is on track to be able to provide Apple a part that can provide the same or more graphics performance in a smaller thermal envelope. There's still the question of whether Intel can do the same. I expect Apple wants a 35W hexacore package for the 15". Sunny cove cores should theoretically be able to do this if Intel can make them exist.

As some people have brought up, the killer app is probably bezel-less displays, using OLED if they can secure enough supply from LG. Like the 2012 retina, an OLED display would be something that sets Macbooks apart from laptops. Unlike Dell and Lenovo, Apple can guarantee a large enough order to make production worth LG's time.

I/O won't change. But it will be mostly sorted out by 2020. Your external drive already uses USB-C. Your PS5 controller will use USB-C. You'll connect to your TV wirelessly with your newer better iTV, and you'll connect to your friend's TV through their chromecast.

If there is a matter of serious concern it's the keyboard and touch bar. Apple knows they need to change course here. Let's just pray they don't try to "innovate" any more than they already have...
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Expectation is very less given the direction Apple is taking the Mac. Very likely to be a more aesthetically pleasing device, with ever less usability and performance until Apple can illustrate that IPP is really the future of computing...:rolleyes:

Q-6
 
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I know I can’t wait for the 2019 MBP just due to the fact my late 2008 MBP is getting slower and doesn’t hold a charge like it did. Replacing the battery helps some but not much.

I’m looking to spec one with: 15” MBP with the i9 processor, 32GB of RAM and 1TB SSD.

Someone told me that the i9 runs really hot. Is this true?
 
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MarkMoseley1 said:
I know I can’t wait for the 2019 MBP just due to the fact my late 2008 MBP is getting slower and doesn’t hold a charge like it did. Replacing the battery helps some but not much.

I’m looking to spec one with: 15” MBP with the i9 processor, 32GB of RAM and 1TB SSD.

Someone told me that the i9 runs really hot. Is this true?
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Considering you were happy to use a 2008 to this date, I’m almost certain both the i9 and 32GB RAM are a complete waste of money for you (and are for 99% of people), even if you plan to use this machine for the next 5 years (I wouldn’t bet any money on these new thin and light BGA iterations of laptops to last any more than 5 years; you definitely won’t be getting a decade of use as you currently enjoyed).
 
Ma2k5 said:
Considering you were happy to use a 2008 to this date, I’m almost certain both the i9 and 32GB RAM are a complete waste of money for you (and are for 99% of people), even if you plan to use this machine for the next 5 years (I wouldn’t bet any money on these new thin and light BGA iterations of laptops to last any more than 5 years; you definitely won’t be getting a decade of use as you currently enjoyed).
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If I could have I would have upgraded back in 2015/2016 but I bought a house instead. Thanks for the information.
 
awesomedeluxe said:
AMD could probably produce 7nm Vega chips early 2019. Since Apple is likely the primary customer they'll just show up according to Apple's schedule. For the MBP, I'd guess October of next year alongside Intel's Cooper Lake. But I guess it's possible it could happen as a quiet update in spring, maybe with Cascade Lake.
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No.
 
Just wondering. I am gonna buy the new MBP 15 on next month and I wouldn't like to have a new GPU release again after a couple of months
 
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