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Warming-up for the all-new redesigned retina 2014 (2015?) MacBook Air
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Dell is not thiking every aspect of an product like Apple do. So if it is not practical with almost bezel free..then Apple will do like MBP bezels. Reduce them but not so much. The biggest difference will be seen between the 12" MBA and the current 11" MBA
From another thread...
If the "good/advanced" notebooks are about to get Skylake, so will the "low end" stuff...
Indeed, Broadwell is expected to be short-lived and replaced by Skylake in 2015. That is, if Intel remains on schedule. Intel has consistently delayed the release of its processors to allow the previous processor to have a longer life. I think Intel will announce the postponement of the launch of Skylake to sometime in 2016.
Not to be a smartass but I just found this while skimming the skylake wikipedia entry:
"Industry observers had initially believed that the issues impacting Broadwell would also cause Skylake to slip to 2016, but newer information suggests that Intel would seek to recover from these delays by bringing forward Skylake's release and shortening Broadwell's release cycle instead"
Their latest source for this is from october, so who knows how up to date it is. I'm hoping it's correct.
"Industry observers had initially believed that the issues impacting Broadwell would also cause Skylake to slip to 2016, but newer information suggests that Intel would seek to recover from these delays by bringing forward Skylake's release and shortening Broadwell's release cycle instead"
Their latest source for this is from october, so who knows how up to date it is. I'm hoping it's correct.
It happens all the time.
I remember Intel reportedly delayed Ivy Bridge due to Sandy Bridge laptops not selling enough units at the time (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2501..._2012_looking_dark_for_notebook_industry.html).
Then, Intel also delayed the release of Broadwell in order to get rid of the stock of Haswell processors (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2014/02/14/intel-broadwell-delay-2/1).
Now, Intel is rumored to delay the release of Skylake as well to let Broadwell have a longer lifetime (http://www.itworld.com/article/2842...release-of-skylake-generation-processors.html).
Perhaps Intel will hardly admit it is delaying one processor to let its predecessor sell more (unless it does so to make shareholders happier). But the fact is that it makes economic sense, especially since AMD offers no real competition here.
^ Don't kill a dream man
If true, i hope the delay is a quarter, not longer...
I still have my hopes. Some manufacturers are not even launching Broadwell laptops, as they will skip them to go directly to Skylake due to Intel's roadmap. I guess Dell is one of them.
If the rumors are true and the new MBAir is even thinner to the point there are no traditional ports like USB and SD reader, screw Apple!
I will be warming back up to a MBPro when my current MBAir need to be replaced!
I will be warming back up to a MBPro when my current MBAir need to be replaced!
I will be warming back up to a MBPro when my current MBAir need to be replaced!
I was thinking the same thing. The new USB is fine and dandy and probably really cool and all, but implementing it now doesn't seem to make any sense beyond being the first to incorporate it. There is no ecosystem around that USB port yet, you'd need adaptors for everything... Also, there was only one of those ports shown in the renders. No clue if that is anything close to reality or if Apple would really pull that off. But I guess it's not really up for debate that one port is not enough. After all I want to do stuff with this machine, not be encumbered by its futurism.
If any company has enough "drive" so to say to push a new (or even standalone) technology to the masses and make it viable it's probably apple, but right now I feel it would be extremely backwards for them to break all backwards compatibility.
So yeah, should they really go down that road with the MBA, I will not get an MBA again.
If Broadwell is pin compatible, what is stopping Apple just putting Broadwell in place for all their lines, then updating the MBP design when Skylake becomes available?
Funny to think that the original MBA just had one USB port.
Now, the current MBP is thinner than the original MBA.
Broadwell asap for MBA, Skylake asap for MBP, and maybe a kick up the ass to get updated Xeon for Mac Pros (or they delay another version)?
Funny to think that the original MBA just had one USB port.
Now, the current MBP is thinner than the original MBA.
Broadwell asap for MBA, Skylake asap for MBP, and maybe a kick up the ass to get updated Xeon for Mac Pros (or they delay another version)?
Apple updating to Broadwell is a no-brainer, the same way it was a no-brainer for them to refresh everything to Haswell, and Ivy Bridge before that, and Sandy Bridge before that, etc.
The problem is that there are a bunch of idiots on these forums who read something like "Broadwell will enable fanless laptops" and then interpret that to mean that Broadwell can only be used in fanless laptops and then assume that anything Apple releases with Broadwell will have to be a 12" fanless MacBook with retina display and no USB ports, or whatever the current idiot rumors are.
Right, so your evidence of Intel doing this "all the time" are:
1) Some speculation that Intel might delay Ivy Bridge... and they didn't even say delay, they said they would slow the ramp. And you provide no evidence that a delay or slow ramp actually happened, which would be easy enough to find if it did happen.
2) Some speculation that Intel might "delay" Broadwell to 4Q14 even though Intel never said they would release it in 3Q14 in the first place.
3) Some speculation that Skylake might be delayed. Brilliant. Your evidence that Intel does this stuff is that they might do it in the future?
Hey, I win the lottery all the time.
What's my evidence?
Well, I thought I might win it last year. I didn't, but I thought I might.
And I might win it next year.
So, I just proved that I win the lottery all the time.
I'm curious, can you tell us how old you are? You seem to often confuse rumors and speculation for reality, which in my experience is a common trait of people who are either very young or very old.
*cough* *wink* Ummm, like FireWire and Thunderbolt?
I do not use either. All I want is a couple USB ports and a SD card reader built in!
My point was that even though backed by Apple (and by the way, I agree with the post that I quoted earlier), having Apple (and Intel, in the case of TB) behind the hardware and the standard hasn't resulted in wide acceptance of either FW or TB. Both remain niche features with a relatively thin and expensive product/accessory selection, other than captive Apple TB displays.
The new USB interface will probably do better, though.
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This.
Reading these MacRumors threads is truly an exercise of losing one's brain cells. People spouting stuff about CPU roadmaps and capabilities, which they have no clue about whatsoever.. On top of all the ridiculous speculations and pointless "artist renditions", which are designed to do nothing more than drive traffic and ad views to the rumor websites.
I have come to realize that these "Apple Rumor" threads and websites are just a massive waste of time.
If I could vote your post up 100 times I would.
You just got to filter out the cr^p as every once in a while there is something useful here, but not often!
There wasn't much of an ecosystem around USB when Apple adopted it either... and it wasn't clear that it was going to catch on then. (Why support USB when the existing and then-more-common PS/2 port works fine?) I think USB C is clearly going to catch on quicker. It replaces those USB OTG adapters android uses to connect USB devices, it solves everyone's favorite complaint that it takes 3 tries to plug in a usb cord, and it's smaller.
I would love a laptop that required only one cord when I sit down at my desk to connect it to power, a monitor, and my keyboard and trackball. It looks like USB C can make this happen, and I want it. I would happily put up with adapters for the stuff I already own to get it. (And most of my stuff has replaceable cables, so I'd expect to be able to just replace the cable)
As for the rumored new laptop having only a single USB port... could I see Apple doing it? Yes. Do I wish they wouldn't? Yup. Would it stop me from buying one? Probably not. It is rare that I need multiple USB devices when I'm not at my desk... and when I'm at my desk, I'm already using a hub anyway.
I wonder how the new USB port will work in real life if it has to serve for charging, an attached external disk, and a separate attached Time Machine disk. I am pretty sure a lot of people at Apple (and probably elsewhere) envision moving us away from attached external disks in the near future.