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I wonder how the new USB port will work in real life if it has to serve for charging, an attached external disk, and a separate attached Time Machine disk. I am pretty sure a lot of people at Apple (and probably elsewhere) envision moving us away from attached external disks in the near future. :mad:

Maybe they envisage an Apple hub for all the preipherals that don'w ened to be directly attached to the Mac? Currently the nearest thing is the ACD (which may get a refresh late once there are Macs that can drive a 5K display)
 
I wonder if this will be part of a charging block somehow. You have several USB ports and a display port and it all goes thru the charging cable. I am very excited about this new MBA and hope to order one as soon as available.
 
I wonder if this will be part of a charging block somehow. You have several USB ports and a display port and it all goes thru the charging cable. I am very excited about this new MBA and hope to order one as soon as available.

I'm going to wait for the 14in version.
 
I'm going to wait for the 14in version.

I wonder if there will ever be a 14-inch version, crammed between the 13-inch and the 15-inch MacBook Pro.

If there is a 14-inch version of the Air, what will the 13-inch Pro will be for?

I don't think Apple will ever do that.

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You know what will be badass? if the new redesign included black bezel like the MBPs!!! ;)

It would be nice. But I can think of a hundred of other things that I would prefer over that.
 
I wonder if there will ever be a 14-inch version, crammed between the 13-inch and the 15-inch MacBook Pro.

If there is a 14-inch version of the Air, what will the 13-inch Pro will be for?

What's the existing 13in Pro for if there is a 13in MBA also ?
 
What's the existing 13in Pro for if there is a 13in MBA also ?

When the 13-inch Air came out, it was back in early 2008 and it had a completely different purpose. The 13-inch Air was the showcase of new tech, a laptop which represented the future, but which was impractical and expensive at the time. It had a slow hard drive and a slow processor, and no optical disk drive.

When the Air was revamped, in 2010, it kept the same screen size and also added another one, an 11-inch. It was in part a carryover of the previous model. Still, there were enough elements to differentiate it from the 13-inch Pro. The Air was thinner and lighter and had a smaller-sized but faster SSD, and no optical disk drive.

Now, times have changed. The 13-inch Pro became thinner and lighter, and also features an SSD and no optical disk drive. It is more similar to the 13-inch Air than it has ever been. The two models are very similar. You can argue of course that the Air is even thinner and lighter, and that the Pro is more powerful. But they both serve essentially the same purpose, something they didn't back in 2008 or 2010.

I don't see a point in launching another 13-inch Air this time, or a 14-inch model. I think Apple will launch just one model, with a 12-inch screen.

Of course this is all my personal opinion, and my impressions on this, as I think it makes economic sense and is in line with rumors and speculation here and elsewhere. I may be wrong, of course. If you think you have elements to believe that a 14-inch screen will be released, then go ahead. If it is just the product of your imagination, because you want so badly an Air with a 14-inch screen, then you may keep dreaming, but you should know that the probability of it being released is low.

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crammed into the footprint of a 13" that would be amazing

Yes, it would. Lenovo did that with the ThinkPad X1 Carbon, and it looks good.
 
When the 13-inch Air came out, it was back in early 2008 and it had a completely different purpose. The 13-inch Air was the showcase of new tech, a laptop which represented the future, but which was impractical and expensive at the time. It had a slow hard drive and a slow processor, and no optical disk drive.

When the Air was revamped, in 2010, it kept the same screen size and also added another one, an 11-inch. It was in part a carryover of the previous model. Still, there were enough elements to differentiate it from the 13-inch Pro. The Air was thinner and lighter and had a smaller-sized but faster SSD, and no optical disk drive.

Now, times have changed. The 13-inch Pro became thinner and lighter, and also features an SSD and no optical disk drive. It is more similar to the 13-inch Air than it has ever been. The two models are very similar. You can argue of course that the Air is even thinner and lighter, and that the Pro is more powerful. But they both serve essentially the same purpose, something they didn't back in 2008 or 2010.

I don't see a point in launching another 13-inch Air this time, or a 14-inch model. I think Apple will launch just one model, with a 12-inch screen.

Of course this is all my personal opinion, and my impressions on this, as I think it makes economic sense and is in line with rumors and speculation here and elsewhere. I may be wrong, of course. If you think you have elements to believe that a 14-inch screen will be released, then go ahead. If it is just the product of your imagination, because you want so badly an Air with a 14-inch screen, then you may keep dreaming, but you should know that the probability of it being released is low.

Don't agree. The essence of good product line marketing is to keep moving the range forward while trying not to have too many products. Better to compete with yourself than to let others do it. There's just as valid a reason now to have 4 laptops as there was before. In the same way there's an overlap between the iPad and the 11in laptops and the iPad Mini and the iPhone Plus. Apple will wait and see (IMO) how the mix shakes out before eliminating one or more of the mix.
 
This.

Reading these MacRumors threads is truly an exercise of losing one's brain cells. People spouting stuff about CPU roadmaps and capabilities, which they have no clue about whatsoever.. On top of all the ridiculous speculations and pointless "artist renditions", which are designed to do nothing more than drive traffic and ad views to the rumor websites.

I have come to realize that these "Apple Rumor" threads and websites are just a massive waste of time.

That's what's so much fun about it - people get so worked up over speculation about what Apple might or might not do based on few or no facts.

Of course, your comment begs the question: Why are you also here wasting your time and losing brain cells? :)
 
when is we expected to going to buy the new retina macbook air , i am looking at the 2014 11" now but i sure want the new one if its not expected in november december this year ????
 
I wonder if this will be part of a charging block somehow. You have several USB ports and a display port and it all goes thru the charging cable. I am very excited about this new MBA and hope to order one as soon as available.

I guess we can hope there is a SD card reader dangling from this charging block, too. OR am I going to have to carry one of those, too! Making it thinner to the point there are no more conventional ports is a step backwards for me. I do not think the Core M processor will make up for it either.
 
Looks like im getting the "old MBA" or the new 13 (14?) rMBP.

Yep did the same and went for the 13" MBAir, loaded to the max. Maybe by time this unit stops working, Apple comes to their senses and finds out that thinner is not always better. I do have my doubts that this will happen:rolleyes:

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crammed into the footprint of a 13" that would be amazing

All they got to do is make the 13" MBAir's bezels smaller and we are there.
 
Sorry, but I had no time...

Sorry folks, but I really couldn't afford the time to go through all the messages in the 45 pages... :eek:

So what are the verdicts (prophecies) about the future of 11" & 13" MBA's with or without retina screens and with energy saving Broadwell processors, destined for 2015?

I'm currently using the 13" rMBP but I'm getting squeezed up for the storage. Luckily I can upgrade it up to 960GB with the Transcend or OWC stuff, easily bcz. there are no mechanical constraints for my rMBP model (late 2012). But, here in Turkey, I have to spend around $1.200 (practically twice as much as in the USA) for the 960GB upgrade. A 480GB upgrade is less economical, and will be stupid for spending around $600!... For my current purposes I don't really need higher CPU clock speeds (as in my current rMBP) nor the alleged virtues of a retina screen. I need higher storage capacity (min 480/512 GB) and longer battery usage time, than the 7 hrs. already proved by my current rMBP.

In those respects, a 13" MBA will be pretty workable for me (esp. if I can also afford for the i7/8GB/512GB version...). Today I can buy this version, naturally, with Haswells. But, if Apple will start using Broadwells in one last round in the current casing (and w/o retina screen), this will probably give us a min. 13 or even 14 hrs. battery usage time which looks pretty much attractive for my purposes. I don't much care for those wide silver bezels particularly in the 13" model (in 11" models they look less appealing, though...). But if Apple's going to discontinue both the 11" & 13" (current models with Haswells) MBAs, I better start planning to fish one before time runs out...

Any fresh comments & recommendations, most welcome.

Thanks for all!:cool:
 
All they got to do is make the 13" MBAir's bezels smaller and we are there.

I think the reasoning for the broad bezels were that the aluminum shell needs to taper towards the edges and that they couldn't make the screen bigger without compromising the thinness of the outer shell. Seeing how thin iPads are I wonder why it hasn't happened yet. Are screens still too thick to put a bigger one into the top shell of an MBA? Can hardly believe that. So yeah "all they got to do", but why won't they?
 
I think the reasoning for the broad bezels were that the aluminum shell needs to taper towards the edges and that they couldn't make the screen bigger without compromising the thinness of the outer shell. Seeing how thin iPads are I wonder why it hasn't happened yet. Are screens still too thick to put a bigger one into the top shell of an MBA? Can hardly believe that. So yeah "all they got to do", but why won't they?

Good theory. The iPad still has pretty big bezels and less of a taper than the MBA so maybe that's still an issue.

Otherwise I assume the reason they haven't put a higher res screen in the MBA has to do with cost and/or battery life. Remember that the MBA is Apple's cheapest laptop and Apple probably wants it to serve as a "gateway" into the ecosystem and thus wants to keep costs down. So putting more expensive screens in them probably isn't a high priority.

Also, it has only been ~1.5 years since the release of the iPad Air, which was the first iPad with a retina display that was power-efficient enough that the size of the battery could be reduced. So I assume high power consumption was an issue right up until then.
 
I think the reasoning for the broad bezels were that the aluminum shell needs to taper towards the edges and that they couldn't make the screen bigger without compromising the thinness of the outer shell. Seeing how thin iPads are I wonder why it hasn't happened yet. Are screens still too thick to put a bigger one into the top shell of an MBA? Can hardly believe that. So yeah "all they got to do", but why won't they?

The iPad has large bezels because there people usually use the bezel to hold it.
 
Perhaps not the only reason, but I believe it is a reason for keeping the bezel.


I agree. I remember the conversations in the early days especially by fandroids etc. being bigger a bigger device than the phone you'll hold it differently. As such you also don't want to be pressing things on the screen constantly. A bezel is simple and functional, until the day someone comes up with an algorithm that detects you are merely holding it in that place and moves the touch sensitive edge of the screen inwards :)
 
The iPad has large bezels because there people usually use the bezel to hold it.

correct but besides the point. I invoked the iPad's screen for its (or rather, the whole device's) thinness, which to me makes it implausible why the bezels on the MBA (which supposedly are there to allow for the tapering from the necessary depth which the screen requires to the thin edges of the aluminum shell) cannot be smaller. Thinner screens (and they undoubtedly have become thinner over the last couple of years) should allow for a bigger screen inside the same housing, with reduced bezels. And we certainly don't need the MBA bezels for holding the device ;)
 
i want black declination of new macbook air

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