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I never use the charging tray on my BMW as the phone not only gets very hot but charges at a glacial pace. You are supposed to put it in the tray if you use your phone as your key to start it up, so it’s not a trivial issue. (I never do as the actual car key can be in your pocket anyway so never really saw the point of it.)
 
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The number of issues must leave Apple feeling something like Windows PC makers in the early days. The devices have to interact and 'just work' with so many other devices, including 3rd party products. It would seem that there would need to be an industry standard ensuring that USB and fast charging setups work in a similar way and do not cause issues. Perhaps someone will say this already exists - in which case it isn't working!
 
My iPhone 12 sometimes overheard so stops charging when on the wireless pad on my BMW i3. Probably due to it being enclosed in the arm rest.
However I still use it as the signal is boosted via the roof antenna, and reception is quite spotty round the countryside.
 
The iPhone 14S has been a mess of a launch.
Just checked, Apple doesn't sell a 14S.
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If using Apple CarKey with BMW, the phone needs to be placed on the wireless charging tray to start the car.

This is for CarKey over NFC. The newer BMW models support ultra wideband to unlock and start the car without needing to take the phone out from your pocket.
 
I never use the charging tray on my BMW as the phone not only gets very hot but charges at a glacial pace. You are supposed to put it in the tray if you use your phone as your key to start it up, so it’s not a trivial issue. (I never do as the actual car key can be in your pocket anyway so never really saw the point of it.)
You’d need to place it on the tray if you don’t carry the key fob, and just take your phone, if you don’t have one of the few BMW models that support ultra wideband for CarKey.
 
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What is the point of wireless charging? To save a couple of seconds that it would otherwise take to plug in a wire? Taking that couple of seconds to plug in a wire will save several minutes or even hours because wired charging charges the phone much faster than wireless charging.
The wireless charging tray doubles as an NFC reader for Apple CarKey. It’s possible that they don’t want to wireless charge but leave the phone on the tray after placing it there to start the car.
 
If other BMW Chargers are as useless as the one in my X5, I'm not surprised. I was excited to have it but after charging in it once or twice, it seems to be better at cooking my phone than charging it. I turned it off and use the space as a holder now.

With it off however, I was able to transfer my keys to my 15 Pro with no more difficulty than the usual multiple try operation I through with previous phones.
My recently new Mazda's pad is next to useless with my XR as well.
 
This sounds really strange. If heat is the problem, shouldn't the phone detect that way before it could fry any chip inside the phone and just turn off charging? If it is some strange noise that affects the NFC, why hasn't this happened before? It's not like the 15 Pro is the first iPhone to have NFC. If the NFC chip in the 15 Pro is more susceptible to noise, to the level it will self destruct, that is even worse.
Not the same thread, but the news about Apple blaming apps for "overloading the system" is really sus. It's not like the developers can bypass the OS and run the CPU at 110% until it shuts off, this is clearly all on Apple.

These 2 news have an ominous feel to them. I do NOT blame the Titanium as others have, but it seems to me that heat is the common demoninator here and that the 15 Pro may have a serious design flaw regarding heat dissapation, to the degree that the phone actually can self destruct. I'm sure Apple can fix this by throttling the CPU earlier and shutting down wireless charging at a lower temp but what does that mean for performance and usage?
 
Wireless charging in cars always seems hit and miss. Size differences or cameras lifting the phone too far from the charger to make reliable "contact", etc....

But breaking hardware seems like a new category of bad..
 
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