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Here's the quote:

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9 hours to cut the links

So, you think they have 9 people cutting away with tiny little saws for 1 hour?

Nope, it's in a CNC machine for 9 hours. Possibly using a water cutter. Likely cutting about 50 - 100 bands at the same time from a big sheet of stainless.

Who knows how many actual man hours are in the bands...the polishing process could be automated as well.

Anyways...enough on that damn topic. You're not going to get it and I'm not going to repeat myself again.

you have described exactly what i was trying to tell you yet you tell me i'm wrong. i don't know what to tell you.
 
Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!

I FART IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION!

At the end of the day, no one knows how the bands are made. We can guess, we can quote, but it's all misdirected frustration cause we're all waiting. At this rate they're probably being made by hamsters. I guess they're being made by that persons mother then? :p
 
I may regret this, but I'm jumping into the "9 hours" discussion.

There's no way it's 9 hours end to end. It's 9 man hours, which could equate to many machines working simultaneously such that 1 band is churned out every 1 hour or less. Even if Jony's statement about "cut from one piece of metal" is true, it more likely looks something like this. Let's assume there are 18 link pieces in each band (for simplicity's sake)

1. Huge piece of metal is cut by 18 blades simultaneously (rough cuts to create 18 link pieces. - 10 min

2. Said 18 pieces are moved to separate finishing machines designed to further refine the cut of those pieces (remember, each link of the band is a slightly different size because they taper toward the clasp). These machines all work simultaneously - 10 min

3. Each piece then heads to its own brushing/polishing machine (which could still be considered machining), again all working simultaneously. This does not preclude additional brushing/polishing by hand as Apple claims happens to each band. - 10 min

Time for movement/cooling/other that happens to the band in between does not count. But the fact remains that you can easily count of "9 hours of machining" that could happen on a single band that happens over 30 min or less of actual elapsed time.

Starting with a single chunk of metal and sending it through a machine or series of machines that does 9 hours of machining serially (rather than concurrently) would be ludicrous.

There, now let the barrage of insults to my intelligence begin!

thanks for trying to break this down further for them but at this point i don't think they want to understand it. they describe multiple machines making multiple parts per hour yet somehow want to stick with the fantasy that each band takes 9 actual real hours to make.
 
It does stink that I ordered at 3:00AM EDT and I'm not getting my watch until, what May 27? I wanted that link bracelet, but if they had said "You can get another model sooner" I would have just ordered that band and then ordered the link bracelet separately.

No biggie, but shoot, this is just about the first Apple product since Jobs came back in '97 I didn't grab on day one.

Kinda bummed. But still love ya Apple. When you said April 24th I believed you. Please don't do that to me again. :)
 
Just to interject. You guys do realize they can mount multiple bands and have a machine brush them all at once right? They aren't individually brushing each band, one per machine...
 
To provide a real life analogy.........

There was a tv documentary on last night in UK about how supermarket sold loaves of bread are manufactured. It showed the entire end to end process from delivery of the flour through to the packaging and distribution. A loaf of bread is available for sale 24 hours after the initial receipt of the flour at the factory - so therefore it could be accurately said that a loaf of bread takes 24 hours to make. However, it so happened that in that same time period, hundreds of thousands of other loaves are also made!

So quite simply, the 9 hour point re the links is somewhat irrelevant as they are certainly making more than 1 at a time!

As I have commented previously on these threads....... no-one has yet received a delivery outside of the original shipping window, so until that happens there is no point getting aggravated!

Fact is that for whatever reason (e.g. materials supply, factory capacity, initial production issues) Apple calculated the shipping dates that we were all given. There is no reason to speculate about these reasons as they have already been taken into account in our dates, and there is nothing to suggest any further delays.
 
I was going to start a whole thread on this very item but decided to just skip it:

As I have commented previously on these threads....... no-one has yet received a delivery outside of the original shipping window, so until that happens there is no point getting aggravated!
 
There is no reason to speculate about these reasons as they have already been taken into account in our dates, and there is nothing to suggest any further delays.

Right, because why would people come onto a forum on MACRUMORS to do a silly thing like speculate?!? ;)
 
Hey know I'm new and all but I've followed this the whole way through. Today my dad saw a guy with a link bracelet who was slated July and got his yesterday! I know I don't have photo proof to show for this but this is not a troll I promise! I'm in the May 13-27 boat waiting also but could indicate us getting ours this week hopefully!! Or early next!
 
The closer we get to the end of the week without any movement on our bank accts/order statuses, the less likely it seems that Apple will fulfill the earliest ship date, which sucks. Considering they have been fulfilling other orders at the earliest day or earlier, it makes me really bummed.
Do you guys think there's any chances to get them by next Wednesday? When would we have to get any notifications/movement?
I'm still somewhat hopeful because of the individual links getting ready for shipment (meaning, they are done with production of some links whether they are on watch or by themselves), but listen to this... my biggest hope comes from the modification of dates yesterday. I have two sport bands that were estimated to arrive by "May", and Apple made changes to those to have a better expectation of delivery. As many as you saw, OUR dates were also somewhat modified. Which to me, makes me think that if they weren't going to ship the watches by next week, they would've changed the dates to say "May 19-May 27" (random estimate).
Does that make sense? What do y'all think?

TL;DR: Apple was definitely meddling with dates yesterday according to fulfillment, and ours didn't change. Which leads me to believe we will be seeing our watches next week. Maybe not all, but some.
 
Heh. Well, I will say this - no matter how I figure it, I don't see how Jony comes up with 9 hours JUST to cut the links. The one comment suggests there's over 100 components. So, fine, that's 540 minutes. If we even it off at 100, that's an average cutting time of 5.4 minutes per piece.

I can't see any of these pieces taking that long to cut.

And, yes, I see where you're coming from. I wouldn't call them man hours, I'd call them machine hours. Even if you tally them up in parallel, I don't see how it comes up to 9 hours just to cut.

Sure, you start adding the additional machining, etc, it could add up, but just to cut the pieces??

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Hey know I'm new and all but I've followed this the whole way through. Today my dad saw a guy with a link bracelet who was slated July and got his yesterday! I know I don't have photo proof to show for this but this is not a troll I promise! I'm in the May 13-27 boat waiting also but could indicate us getting ours this week hopefully!! Or early next!

Was the guy he saw famous or something??
 
Has there been any movement besides the links orders that got charged a couple of days ago? Seems silent since then.
 
Heh. Well, I will say this - no matter how I figure it, I don't see how Jony comes up with 9 hours JUST to cut the links. The one comment suggests there's over 100 components. So, fine, that's 540 minutes. If we even it off at 100, that's an average cutting time of 5.4 minutes per piece.

I can't see any of these pieces taking that long to cut.

And, yes, I see where you're coming from. I wouldn't call them man hours, I'd call them machine hours. Even if you tally them up in parallel, I don't see how it comes up to 9 hours just to cut.

Sure, you start adding the additional machining, etc, it could add up, but just to cut the pieces??

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Was the guy he saw famous or something??

Nope! Just a normal guy he saw with it at a breakfast joint in town, and he was surprised he got his as early but hey the good to take away is ours could be later today!! Or at least to have them by early next week!
 
Has there been any movement besides the links orders that got charged a couple of days ago? Seems silent since then.

Not at all unfortunately... but trust me, if there's any movement, you'll see pages and pages of hype! You won't miss it.
 
Hey know I'm new and all but I've followed this the whole way through. Today my dad saw a guy with a link bracelet who was slated July and got his yesterday! I know I don't have photo proof to show for this but this is not a troll I promise! I'm in the May 13-27 boat waiting also but could indicate us getting ours this week hopefully!! Or early next!

He saw a random guy and also knew he had a july date? something doesnt add up here :rolleyes:
 
Anyone else feel they're about to this point, waiting for their watch?

(The puns here are endless. Time. Time on your arm. Watch. Get it?) :D

EDIT: If you don't know the reference: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1637688/

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I wanted that link bracelet, but if they had said "You can get another model sooner" I would have just ordered that band and then ordered the link bracelet separately.

Maybe I'm missing your point, but this is exactly what they did say at 3:01 AM on 4/10: You can have a watch with a Link Bracelet in 4-6 weeks, or you can order a different model and have it delivered between 4/24 and 5/12.
 
Let's accept it guys .. It's Thursday and I see no reason if tomorrow would be any different.. I think it's only going to start moving from 5/12 to be honest ! But won't discount the fact that miracles do happen sometimes !! ;)
 
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