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Web Browsing Performance on Android 2.2 Hampered by Flash Compatibility

I put a cheap Windows desktop at home and installed Wyse on my iPad 3G. Though it's a bit sluggish, I can do Flash, Silverlight, and Java on my iPad using Wyse as a Thin Browser, if I really needed to.

Personally, I seem to be better off without it, and I'd rather have my Safari browser to have the ability to post/upload/submit a file instead.
 
yg17 said:
And who would've ever thought that a beta might not run perfectly? Unbelievable! :eek:
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But it's totally fine that people have been bagging Apple for not providing flash for the last three years I imagine even though it's still in beta.

I apologise if you are not one of those people, but that is the logic some people try and argue.

ChazUK said:
Loading more data intensive content takes longer?

NEVAR! :eek::eek::eek::eek:
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Like others has commented, it's not the loading speeds which are the problem.

BlizzardBomb said:
No need for that tone. I'm just pointing something out.
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Well there is in my book, because you were calling out the editorial policy for being biased without one shred of evidence.
 
La Porta said:
This is not a surprise. Every time that I want to read some news or other content online, the page takes ETERNITY to load because some random, Flash-based advertisement is holding up the works. Sometimes Safari (or Firefox) refuses to show the rest of the page until the damn thing loads.

Just kill it already, seriously.
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try click to flash!!!
 
Swift said:
No, it's called supporting a technology past its time. If you allow Flash to work on your phone, people won't change their websites to something that makes sense. Hey, I can't get telegrams on my iPhone! Fix that, Google!
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You're on the money dude. I've been pretty disappointed with Apple for ages now, but at least on this issue they're trying to drag the rest of the tech business kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Surely it's euthanasia time for this lame duck?
 
Honestly I don't miss Flash but many others do. So for those who need it (need:Funny) this is great to see.

The web is so vast and can be customized for just about anyones needs. Where there is Flash there is also a non-Flash solution.

Flash can simply go away and It would not mean anything to me. I'm tired of hearing about it tho. It's such an old topic I'm not even interested is what it can and can't do anymore.
 
skyehill said:
Give me the option to view flash or not. Let me make my own decision. Google will get my money and not Apple next time I buy a phone. Choices are good.
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Actually, Motorola or HTC or whatever will get your money. Google licenses android for free.

Google will get your mobile web traffic and mine your data but that's another discussion altogether. :)
 
topmounter said:
Flash on mobile devices is a good idea how?

Honestly.
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Did you miss today's reports about Android 2.2 users watching Hulu on their phones? They enjoy Flash while some mac fanboys waste time supporting their leader in quest against Flash.
 
Since I use safari with clicktoflash on my mac anyway, no flash on iphone doesn't bother me too much. I don't expect any flash integration on iphone.
 
Mirice said:
Typical fanboy answer, you don't want or need flash because Steve jobs said you don't want or need flash.
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Typical Google Fanboy answer.

I don't want or need flash.

I don't care to play flash games. I don't watch hulu. I don't like to wait for the flash plugin to load. I don't like my cpu usage going up just because there's some fancy animation the website owner thought was cool. I don't like to wait minutes just for the introduction animation for a site to load. I don't like to navigate a website as if it was a freaking game just to get at the content I'm looking for.
 
Compile 'em all said:
Choices are not good.

Your mum/dad won't understand what that "choice" even means.

Apple doesn't develop products for nerds.
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Microsoft knows this too. Put most business users in front of Open Office Calc and preach the virtues of openness.

They'll be back in a couple of hours and want their spreadsheets to look like normal again.
 
Swift said:
No, it's called supporting a technology past its time. If you allow Flash to work on your phone, people won't change their websites to something that makes sense. Hey, I can't get telegrams on my iPhone! Fix that, Google!
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Another typical fanboy response, the only people saying flash is past Its prime are the most rabid apple zealots. Your typical apple zealot thinks everyone on the planet should change their websites in to an apple approved form.
 
ivladster said:
Yeah Google, turns out people DON'T want Flash on Mobile Phones.
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It's the top downloaded item in Android Market free apps section. 10,000 to 50,000 downloads. 5 star ratings within 1907 reviews.

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tkatz said:
Typical Google Fanboy answer.

I don't want or need flash.

I don't care to play flash games. I don't watch hulu. I don't like to wait for the flash plugin to load. I don't like my cpu usage going up just because there's some fancy animation the website owner thought was cool. I don't like to wait minutes just for the introduction animation for a site to load. I don't like to navigate a website as if it was a freaking game just to get at the content I'm looking for.
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But you will be fine with all of this if/when Flash is replaced with H.264. Do I get it right?
 
This is idiotic.

Of course a real site, with Flash and so on, will take longer to load than a stripped down mobile site. It has more data, stupid!

I'd rather have the choice to see the information, even if it takes a little longer, than look at blue legos.

Plus, in a couple of months there will be announced Tegra 2 and Atom Z6 Android phones and tablets. That hardware will handle Flash easier, and it will blow the current Snapdragons and the future iPhone HD out of the water.
 
Compile 'em all said:
Choices are not good.

Your mum/dad won't understand what that "choice" even means.

Apple doesn't develop products for nerds.
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Real simple. The website owner can relegate flash to simply augmenting the site, instead of requiring its use to view their primary content. There's no reason why a website need to be one big flash app. There's no reason why site navigation needs to be in flash. Present your primary content and navigation using various HTML based technologies and leave flash for whatever other "decorations" you decide you want to show off to the user.

The user need not actively make a choice here. They surf to the site on a desktop with flash installed, they get the site content along with all the flash that goes with it. They surf to the site w/o the flash plugin installed and they can STILL view the primary content, though they might not see the extra superfluous stuff.
 
lilo777 said:
Did you miss today's reports about Android 2.2 users watching Hulu on their phones? They enjoy Flash while some mac fanboys waste time supporting their leader in quest against Flash.
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Bah... Fact and logic don't belong here. I love having the ability to watch Comedy Network on my phone everywhere.


ivladster said:
Yeah Google, turns out people DON'T want Flash on Mobile Phones.
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It's only the #1 downloaded app in the marketplace. Surely people don't want flash. :rolleyes:
 
mrochester said:
With Flash heading to the many millions of current and future Android owners, I think Flash is going to be around for a lonnnnggggg time yet. Personally, I don't think Stevie should have any authority over the future of Flash. He should stick to his own walled garden and leave the decision about other products to someone else.
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Soon as Hulu has an app and a major porn site switches, Flash is dead. I still haven't seen a long enough list of Flash related sites/products that warrant the amount of hype related to "millions" of people using it.
 
Mirice said:
Another typical fanboy response, the only people saying flash is past Its prime are the most rabid apple zealots. Your typical apple zealot thinks everyone on the planet should change their websites in to an apple approved form.
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This is what the evolution of technology is...where's BetaMax nowadays? How about HD-DVD? Hmmmm...they died bc some executive or engineer choose another direction.

This is simple...Apple is not supporting mobile flash. Google is. We'll let the tried-and-true methods of competition, supply and demand, and user freedom of choice prevail here.
 
WOW - here we go :rolleyes:

I just believe that no company, government or anyone else should decide what is best for me. Can't we choose to run flash or not on our device. If, flash is that bad then it will die it's on death in due time.
 
ChazUK said:
It's the top downloaded item in Android Market free apps section. 10,000 to 50,000 downloads. 5 star ratings within 1907 reviews.
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Awesome...give it a couple days. after those 1900 ppl actually see their normal browsing experience change, there will be more ppl to give it a true rating. now it's just the idea of flash on their nexus1. they haven't truly gotten the full use of it yet.
 
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