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So Steve Wozniak is still employed by Apple? What does he do, exactly?
 
I don't really believe that the employee was fired. Woz has always been a wise guy, and I'd bet he's just playing it up.

Actually it is possible that the guy was.

He removed a unit out of the area it was supposed to remain in and showed it to someone likely not authorized to see it.

That's way more grounds for being fired than the accidental loss of a prototype one is real world testing with authorization in the wild.
 
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cmaier said:
Couldn't flip it around and see the black plastic on top where the antennae is?

Yeah, a bit weird that, eh?

Probably too excited to be using it to bother turning it over to examine the casing. ;)
 
Actually it is possible that the guy was.

He removed a unit out of the area it was supposed to remain in and showed it to someone likely not authorized to see it.

That's way more grounds for being fired than the accidental loss of a prototype one is real world testing with authorization in the wild.

It's all about intent. The employee who lost the iPhone didn't mean to lose it (presumably) therefore there's no real reason to fire him. The engineer who showed off the iPad prior to its launch did it intentionally, clearly violating the NDA and that says a lot about his character and attitude toward company secrecy. I wouldn't hesitate one second in firing someone like that.
 
An OS X App Store would be nice without the app approval. But yes, the idea of having a centralized store for Mac applications would be nice.

Something like Steam for games.

I don't think Apple'd do any kind of App Store without some kind of approval process. I personally wouldn't have a problem with that at all, as long as it wasn't the only way to get applications.

Any sort of locked down iThingy type environment would, of course, but completely unacceptable for a full fledged computer.
 
It's all about intent. The employee who lost the iPhone didn't mean to lose it (presumably) therefore there's no real reason to fire him. The engineer who showed off the iPad prior to its launch did it intentionally, clearly violating the NDA and that says a lot about his character and attitude toward company secrecy. I wouldn't hesitate one second in firing someone like that.

Wow that's a bit extreme...the guy is a dirty rat in your eyes?

It was the day of release, and he was allowed to take it. He showed Steve Wozniack. Come on now. There is more to this story on another site, and it's pretty lame. Steve Jobs is a bad dude, there really is no two ways about it.
 
Why on earth would we need a Mac OS X "app store?"

Because there are a lot of very good apps available around the Internet, but it takes luck or being in the know to find a lot of them. I think it would be a LOT tougher than the much-smaller apps for mobile devices, but I think it would be a great idea as long as it wasn't totally locked down like the iPad and iPhone stores.
 
An app store for Mac apps would be pretty great.

I'm hoping that Steve is just playing with our heads and that there actually is one coming, but apps don't have to be sold via the store.
 
I am glad to know that there won't be a Mac App Store and therefore Apple will not control what I am going to install on my OSX! :p

Keep OSX free!!!!!!!!!
 
Because there are a lot of very good apps available around the Internet, but it takes luck or being in the know to find a lot of them. I think it would be a LOT tougher than the much-smaller apps for mobile devices, but I think it would be a great idea as long as it wasn't totally locked down like the iPad and iPhone stores.

I would like this too, but for a full computer a more open model would be appropriate. At the very least a commonplace digital distribution environment.

Another thing that Macs would benefit from would be an OS X version of the new Game Center they're making.

A Steam + Live! setup for the Mac that didn't stop at just games would be the next big step software-wise.
 
Why on earth would we need a Mac OS X "app store?"

You are missing the bigger picture. Easier access to apps. Also, a rating system on many of them. No hunting down on Google. Centralized Payment system.

Honestly, what's not to love?

I don't think Apple'd do any kind of App Store without some kind of approval process. I personally wouldn't have a problem with that at all, as long as it wasn't the only way to get applications.

Any sort of locked down iThingy type environment would, of course, but completely unacceptable for a full fledged computer.

No, I never mean lockdown, but an ecosystem like Steam where Mac applications are available & catalogued. Like I said, like the App Store but sans the approval thing and sans the only place thing.

More like the iBook Store, it's not packaged with the OS, you have to download it.
 
I have a friend who talks to Woz now and then, and that employee was unfortunately fired.

I think Apple is in severe danger and becoming more evil than Microsoft was during their heyday.

Sorry, but showing Woz Apple product when it comes out shouldn't be a state crime and cause for firing. They need common sense, for crying out loud Woz co-founded Apple.

Damn!
 
App Store - good for developers. It means developers can let Apple do all the credit card processing, logins, etc, and focus on marketing and development. Just as long as it's not the only way to get Apps to run.

Firing the engineer - I bet Apple just announced a few new policies. Like, show anybody a prototype, and you get shown the door. It's not pretty, but Apple's never been lax on this sort of stuff. And it's a bound to be a sensitive issue right about now.
 
iPad is banned in Korea, too.

iPad is also banned in Korea. You need to pass radio wave test to use any
imported devices with wireless communication like Wi-Fi in Korea. Every
single imported iPad should be certified by law.

The problem is that you need to register for the test by yourself, and you
need to pay more than $300 for the test, and you also need blueprint for the
device you want to be tested. The funny thing is that a lot of people believe
that SamSung's behind this.
 
I think Apple is in severe danger and becoming more evil than Microsoft was during their heyday.

Sorry, but showing Woz Apple product when it comes out shouldn't be a state crime and cause for firing. They need common sense, for crying out loud Woz co-founded Apple.

Damn!

my understanding is that the engineer was fired because he had an e-mail saying that you must wait until midnight of the launch (april 3rd) before showing off your iPad to people (the email was meant for every employee who had an iPad for testing), the misunderstanding was that he actually had an iPad 3G, which meant he had to wait until the launch of that version (which is now April 30th)

so in that sense, he did break his NDA. also, the issue is not that he just showed Woz, but he was at Valley Faire Mall the night of the release showing it off to everyone who was in line that night and he even appeared on Gizmodo and other sites using it.

and yes, Woz is technically still on Apple's Pay Roll system and receives a check like everyone else, but he has no input on any day-to-day activities and from what I've read, he hasn't been inside of Apple HQ is several years and has no knowledge of future products, but he does get a front seat at Apple Media Events.
 
"leaving it there" was Gizmodo's story about it, and their story is a little fishy. For all we know, maybe the unnamed person pick pocketed it or stole a jacket it was in. I doubt we're going to hear Gray's side of it. Last I heard, the person that sold it to Gizmodo hasn't come forward to talk about what happened either, which is suspicious as well.
If you are pick pocketed, you go to the police; this guy called the bar.
 
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