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What can we REALISTICALLY see at WWDC?
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Declarative UI for iOS variants.
Super boring for consumers to hear about (but wait) however super interesting for devs.
It’ll mean that for regular apps (I guess not games) they won’t have to put so much work into developing for every single iOS screen size.
Will allow apps to be fully ready for the slew of new ‘notch’ phones this autumn plus (likely) a new watch design (which I think is going to be round).
So it’s ‘interesting’ for consumers in that way.
EDIT: And revamped privacy controls and ‘time well spent’ controls. Both are hot potatoes right now and the former especially is home ground for Apple more than almost anyone else in Silicon Valley.
Super boring for consumers to hear about (but wait) however super interesting for devs.
It’ll mean that for regular apps (I guess not games) they won’t have to put so much work into developing for every single iOS screen size.
Will allow apps to be fully ready for the slew of new ‘notch’ phones this autumn plus (likely) a new watch design (which I think is going to be round).
So it’s ‘interesting’ for consumers in that way.
EDIT: And revamped privacy controls and ‘time well spent’ controls. Both are hot potatoes right now and the former especially is home ground for Apple more than almost anyone else in Silicon Valley.
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I understand messages are the most-used app on the iPhone, but please, not another half hour of bubble letters and emoji. And hopefully they don't announce any features we won't end up seeing until the next WWDC.
They need a revamp of music cloud services. iTunes Match/iCloud Music Library are not reliable cloud libraries for those who are meticulous with metadata, playlists and playcounts. Syncing between Mac and iOS devices has lots of glitches/errors. iBooks syncing doesn't work. The iBooks Store on iOS will show books available for update. It doesn't tell you what these updates to purchased books contains (I believe they used to before iOS 7 or so). Updating the books doesn't seem to update the version on the Mac iBooks app - iTunes says there are purchased items found, but transferring them then just unchecks the book from the synced items in your device settings. The process repeats each time you sync books.
Then there's the "Waiting For Changes To Be Applied" bug that seems to happen all the time.
iTunes decided to populate all of my mp3's with the "Work" or whatever tag used for classical music. It populated it with whatever was in the Grouping field of each mp3. I have no idea why it did, but it also results in the same few hundred songs syncing each time I sync my phone. I just discovered what caused that bug this morning. I will have to manually remove the entries in that field.
They need to put back the tab bar on iPhone X; its plenty large enough.
Settings needs to be condensed/streamlined.
Each time I restore my Apple Watch, its listed as a different "Source" in my Health App. I've got five or six entries for the same watch.
Still no iCloud Messages.
You can't pair two HomePods to create stereo speakers. This should have been a feature at launch. Even $50 bluetooth speakers by other manufacturers can do this.
They need a revamp of music cloud services. iTunes Match/iCloud Music Library are not reliable cloud libraries for those who are meticulous with metadata, playlists and playcounts. Syncing between Mac and iOS devices has lots of glitches/errors. iBooks syncing doesn't work. The iBooks Store on iOS will show books available for update. It doesn't tell you what these updates to purchased books contains (I believe they used to before iOS 7 or so). Updating the books doesn't seem to update the version on the Mac iBooks app - iTunes says there are purchased items found, but transferring them then just unchecks the book from the synced items in your device settings. The process repeats each time you sync books.
Then there's the "Waiting For Changes To Be Applied" bug that seems to happen all the time.
iTunes decided to populate all of my mp3's with the "Work" or whatever tag used for classical music. It populated it with whatever was in the Grouping field of each mp3. I have no idea why it did, but it also results in the same few hundred songs syncing each time I sync my phone. I just discovered what caused that bug this morning. I will have to manually remove the entries in that field.
They need to put back the tab bar on iPhone X; its plenty large enough.
Settings needs to be condensed/streamlined.
Each time I restore my Apple Watch, its listed as a different "Source" in my Health App. I've got five or six entries for the same watch.
Still no iCloud Messages.
You can't pair two HomePods to create stereo speakers. This should have been a feature at launch. Even $50 bluetooth speakers by other manufacturers can do this.
I think they will announce some really useful new dataset for iCloud in iOS 12. That will be implemented close to iOS 13 release...
But I don't think that they will miss a chance and won't show any SE 2 or X Plus leaks, this conference is more like a Super Bowl than specifically for devs (at least in public media field).
But I don't think that they will miss a chance and won't show any SE 2 or X Plus leaks, this conference is more like a Super Bowl than specifically for devs (at least in public media field).
I’d try re-pairing them, and if that doesn’t work, I’d recommend exchanging them. Mine don’t have this issue.
Back to the future are my favourite movies, don’t make me create another time line!!!
I’m all about iOS 12 this year. My Mac and watch are fine. My iPad and my iPhone X need a lot of refinement. There’s so much they can do with the iPhone X and it’s OLED display. I’m not looking for drastic UI changes but I’d be totally content with bug fixes, smarter Siri on the level of GA and an always on display.
Less focus on emojis and bubbles in iMessage and more strengthening Siri and iCloud, etc.
Less focus on emojis and bubbles in iMessage and more strengthening Siri and iCloud, etc.
I'm due for a Mac upgrade so I'm looking forward to updated Macs and I'm hoping we'll see them at WWDC. I'm mostly interested in new iMacs with 8th gen CPUs but decent MBPs at slightly lower prices (nTB kind of price without sacrificing decent specs) and fixed keyboards would be interesting too.
If Apple can realize that the Mac mini still exists...
Everyone is assuming based on a couple (maybe only one) of reports that Apple is planning to use iOS 12 _solely_ to squash bugs. I find that extremely dubious. Perhaps they are not planning iOS 7 interface changes, but there is no way they’re going to release an OS into this competitive environment with only bug fixes. Ain’t...gonna...happen.
Can you imagine the ads for Android? “Come to the mobile operating system that actually innovates!” or “2017 wants its operating system back!”
So, there will be some changes: some bigger than others. But there will be changes.
Can you imagine the ads for Android? “Come to the mobile operating system that actually innovates!” or “2017 wants its operating system back!”
So, there will be some changes: some bigger than others. But there will be changes.
Even the best innovation would spur Android to poke fun at Apple.
Didnt they make fun of the notch and now half the new phones running Android are sporting a notch?
I dont think anyone takes the Samsung etc. ads seriously, theyre just memes
Those are new products with new things for developers.
A Mac refresh or something, doesn't bring any advantage for developers.
WWDC is focused in developing new and amazing things.
A Mac refresh does bring advantages for developers, that's what they use to work...
Also, a few minutes of googling revealed a few hardware announcements at previous WWDCs, I skipped everything that opened new possibilities for developers:
2003: Power Mac G5
2004: Apple Cinema Displays
2009: MBP and MBA
2010: iPhone 4
2013: Mac Pro, MBA
2017: iMac, iMac Pro, MBP, MBA, iPad Pro
Edit: Also, how is a refreshed iPad Pro more useful to devs than refreshed Macs?
Apparently you weren't paying attention a year ago, as Apple seems to disagree. Here are a couple relevant articles you may have missed:
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/06/05/apple-macbook-lineup-cpus-ssds-graphics/
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/06/0...t-mac-displays-ever-and-improved-performance/
It's true that Apple usually hasn't mentioned minor spec bumps during keynotes, and last year's new hardware was the first time it happened in a few years. But a jump from dual- to quad-core and quad- to hex-core is a more major bump in performance surely worth mentioning.
Loads of anger on this very forum cause of a buggy iOS12 Beta 1 release.
On a serious note: we could be hearing about the HomePod launching in germany and france. I can‘t speak for france but I know Siri got substantial music domain updates in german over the last few months (you can now actually tell her to play non-german song titles) and they afaik pushed out a german support article for it by accident.
On a serious note: we could be hearing about the HomePod launching in germany and france. I can‘t speak for france but I know Siri got substantial music domain updates in german over the last few months (you can now actually tell her to play non-german song titles) and they afaik pushed out a german support article for it by accident.
It doesn't matter what Apple announces because the users here will all be disappointed their "fantasy" feature didn't make it in iOS12 even though rumors said so.
The only feature I've ever wanted was the ability to put icons anywhere on the home screen instead of having to fill up rows from left to right from the top.
I expect fancy words that are delivered with a tone of excitement and amazement, that when crafted together sound like they have accomplished the impossible dream that we’ve all been looking for.
I also expect that if we actually actively listen with an inquisitive mind, that we will realize that absolutely nothing was said, and that approximately 1 hour has passed.
But... until we realize that, we will feel wonderful and excited for a few moments.
I’ve often been amazed at how moved a person can feel by words that actually meant nothing, said nothing, and yet flowed together so beautifully.
I also expect that if we actually actively listen with an inquisitive mind, that we will realize that absolutely nothing was said, and that approximately 1 hour has passed.
But... until we realize that, we will feel wonderful and excited for a few moments.
I’ve often been amazed at how moved a person can feel by words that actually meant nothing, said nothing, and yet flowed together so beautifully.
This!! I currently have 23 listed!
That wouldn't be disappointing to me... that's exactly what they need to do. Can't go through iOS 11 again, it was beta-standard for at least 6 months.
Agee. We’re all so addicted to new features that it’s easy to forget that it was only with 11.3 (and 4.3 on my watch) that things returned to stability.
For the first time ever, I’m not planning to update to 12 on the first day of its release due to the terrible experience of this year. I’ll wait at least a month and see what the experiences that others had.
As I’ve put in another post, I’d like a stabilty year with a focus on cleaning up the UI and privacy and the whole UI ‘cooled’ down (a dark mode should be part of this).
New major features I’d prefer to just be hardware driven i.e. found in new models.
Oh yeah, the surely most fire the guy who tripled Apple's profits since Steve Jobs left. No doubt. Bring whats-his-name back and give Apple's competitors a chance.