What do your friends think?

[malone18]

I coach high school girls (ages 14-18) and none of them want to get one. However many are really excited to see mine and what it can do. My 74 year old father is getting one and has a calendar reminder set for 2:45 AM.
As far as coworkers, 2 are planning to buy (not preorder though) and quite a few are interested in seeing it. That being said, the majority have no real interest in it at all.

 

[Appl3FTW]

My friends aren't getting it, oh well they can bow down to my greatness haha

 

[AFDoc]

I continue to be excited about the AW and I am certain to pre-order one at 8.01am on Friday 10th April.

As well as chatting to people on here (who may not be representative!) I've talked about it to all my friends. Absolutely none of them have any interest in getting an AW. Despite most of them having iPhones. Indeed, some have said they'd be embarrassed to have one.

I've said before Apple are going to need we early adopters as brand ambassadors (to much derision, I might add!).

Is the AW going to be a runaway success from Day One? I'm not so sure.

It has also slowly dawned on me that it is really quite expensive!

Just wondering why you care if the watch does well or not? Why do you care that most of the people you've talked to don't want it or would be embarrassed to have it?

IF you believe it's expensive then maybe this isn't the product for you. I won't be a brand ambassador for the apple watch.... won't even bring the topic up unless forced to and then the conversation won't be long and winding but "yep, it's an apple watch" and move on. The more I read folks post here on MR the more I fear for man kinds future.
Live life, be happy and don't worry about what others may think..... tell your friends that.

 

[fitshaced]

That's just it, I'm not really sure. I just mean I think I wanted, and expected it to do a lot more than it did.

Apple have thought outside the box on this one and what they are offering is truly a SMART watch

Without trying to sound rude, how do you know that the Apple Watch does what you think was missing if you don't know what that is? You realised the Android Wear Watch didn't do enough but you haven't really said what the Apple Watch has over it.

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Look more attractive. Just like all other Apple products. They just put more thought into their products.

Looks more attractive, true. More thought into products doesn't say anything. If there is something in particular that you think Apple has done to demonstrate that other than it's looks, then explain. There is too much fluff on here about this watch by people saying things like 'more thought'. You guys don't work for Apple, you don't need to spin it for them. If you actually have evaluated this product sufficiently, speak like you have instead of simply showing your loyalty to Apple. They don't pay you.

As an exercise to demonstrate to yourself how much you have thought about your own needs first instead of just compulsively deciding to buy an Apple Watch, answer the following:

What are the limitations of the Apple Watch that will mean it's not perfect for your day to day use?

What would make a wrist based device more ideal based on current technologies and standards?

Would I have bought the same looking device with the exact same features if it was made by Samsung?

There are obvious hypotheticals in there but they can still be answered.

 

[armandxp]

I haven't wore a watch since the Microsoft spot watch. I'm excited to have a watch again. Only reason I'm wearing a watch again is because Apple is making something that I find atteactive, useful in busy situations and to bring extra geek functionality to my life.

 

[5105973]

Hi sorry. Haven't had time to read all the posts yet. Sister in law is totally excited about it now though bummed she is watching her expenses between jobs. We looked at the site together on our iPhones after dinner. Her birthday is at the end of the month so the timing is great to get her one for her birthday. Luckily she prefers the sport version above all others and that's something we and some other family members can easily afford to get for her. She even had a favorite color so that makes things easy. We will preorder hers when we do ours. I think we can do three at a time, right? If not, I'll wait to do mine.

So...that's one person, female IPhone 6Plus user, who hadn't even heard of the Apple Watch until today who was won over very easily. Though I guess it's cheating a little bit since we and others in the family are buying it for her. But really if she hadn't just left one incredibly dysfunctional workplace and had the incredible bad luck and timing to simultaneously incur a major car repair bill hit to her savings, she would be preordering it herself.

She has heard of the FitBit. And she has a MacBook Air but she's not especially technologically inclined not does she read much about tech. She's more into fashion and fitness. She saw how big the watch is on wrists from pics on this site but that didn't faze her. She said she expected as much. She seems pretty grounded and has realistic expectations of it.

That's pretty much the response I expected from her. I've got at least two more friends whose response will likely be similar. And then some whose kids will distract us twenty seven times during the conversation and they will therefore forget anything I was trying to discuss with them anyway!

I hope everyone here had a nice weekend. I'm going to read a bit more and go to bed. Have a good night and a good week ahead.

 

[5105973]

I just spoke to one of my students. He's 18/19. He said that no-one he knows has any interest in getting an Apple Watch. (He's the most popular person I know. He knows everyone.)

He says people his age don't wear watches full stop. They were raised on using their mobile phones to tell the time. So he sees no case for getting an Apple Watch.

People my age of 48 don't wear watches that often anymore for the same reason. And when iPhones were smaller it was fine. Now I'm carrying around a phablet and look forward to offloading some of the functions of the iPhone onto a wearable device.

Even the 6 is clunky compared to the 4 I felt was ideally pocketable. One reason Sis was excited about the Apple Watch was because like me, she's missed a few important calls and texts because she left her phone in her purse with the ringer turned off because she had a meeting and forgot to turn it back on. She thought it was cool she could get her notifications relatively non-invasively on her wrist. For me it is really important that I am reachable because I'm the primary carer for two aging parents with health issues. My dad just had cancer surgery a couple of months ago.

Even when I kept the small iPhone in my pocket there were times I had wished I could have left it locked in my car while I chased my toddler around the park. But I didn't dare because I always wanted some kind of communication device on me at all times even when I was running around and going down tube slides like a nine year old. So I had to put up with the pocketed iPhone smacking me in the leg as I ran around.

 

[Esexx]

None of my friends and workmates are getting an AW except for one fellow apple fan girl.

2 are thinking about getting one after I get mine and then it might be a possibility.

 

[matrix07]

Hey, I'm not the only person saying that a luxury brand needs "heritage", which Apple currently does not have in the fashion industry. Here's a fashion expert's take on it. She speaks of heritage too.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chander...es-her-thoughts-on-apple-watch-and-wearables/

I saw arguments from both camps. That the high end conventional watch is hand crafted. That it has long history in this field. That having a $200 electronic internal in a gold case is embarrassing.
And I also saw the argument that in the future if your $30,000 watch can't tell the exact time to the seconds like new smart watch, that it's always a few minutes late and face can't be changed, it will also be an embarrassment. And that wearing a watch that can do only one thing will be a waste of time.
Who knows, in the very near future taking iPhone out of the pocket to check notifications might look ridiculous, even though you're wearing $30,000 watch.
It's quite interesting to see how this will lead us to but like I said, the Watch needs to establish itself first.

 

[bunnicula]

Without trying to sound rude, how do you know that the Apple Watch does what you think was missing if you don't know what that is? You realised the Android Wear Watch didn't do enough but you haven't really said what the Apple Watch has over it.

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Looks more attractive, true. More thought into products doesn't say anything. If there is something in particular that you think Apple has done to demonstrate that other than it's looks, then explain. There is too much fluff on here about this watch by people saying things like 'more thought'. You guys don't work for Apple, you don't need to spin it for them. If you actually have evaluated this product sufficiently, speak like you have instead of simply showing your loyalty to Apple. They don't pay you.

As an exercise to demonstrate to yourself how much you have thought about your own needs first instead of just compulsively deciding to buy an Apple Watch, answer the following:

What are the limitations of the Apple Watch that will mean it's not perfect for your day to day use?

What would make a wrist based device more ideal based on current technologies and standards?

Would I have bought the same looking device with the exact same features if it was made by Samsung?

There are obvious hypotheticals in there but they can still be answered.

I don't troll Android forums. I don't buy Samsung products. They bore me. I might consider a TV. I owned a decent Samsung TV once. My device prior to the first iPhone was a Samsung Blackjack. It really was rather blah.

I don't have to justify my likes, dislikes, etc on an Internet forum.

I'm going to buy one of these and see if I enjoy wearing it. If I do, great. If I don't, oh well.

The damned thing isn't even out yet, so how would I know with any sort of granular detail exactly how it will work for me day in and day out?

It's all speculation. The good AND the bad.

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People my age of 48 don't wear watches that often anymore for the same reason. And when iPhones were smaller it was fine. Now I'm carrying around a phablet and look forward to offloading some of the functions of the iPhone onto a wearable device.

Even the 6 is clunky compared to the 4 I felt was ideally pocketable. One reason Sis was excited about the Apple Watch was because like me, she's missed a few important calls and texts because she left her phone in her purse with the ringer turned off because she had a meeting and forgot to turn it back on. She thought it was cool she could get her notifications relatively non-invasively on her wrist. For me it is really important that I am reachable because I'm the primary carer for two aging parents with health issues. My dad just had cancer surgery a couple of months ago.

Even when I kept the small iPhone in my pocket there were times I had wished I could have left it locked in my car while I chased my toddler around the park. But I didn't dare because I always wanted some kind of communication device on me at all times even when I was running around and going down tube slides like a nine year old. So I had to put up with the pocketed iPhone smacking me in the leg as I ran around.

Yeah. My 6 plus is huge. I think it'll be cool to throw it in my bag and get notifications on my wrist.

 

[kybldmstr]

Nobody I have asked wants to get one. I don't care I'm still waiting up to pre order mine

 

[fitshaced]

I don't troll Android forums. I don't buy Samsung products. They bore me. I might consider a TV. I owned a decent Samsung TV once. My device prior to the first iPhone was a Samsung Blackjack. It really was rather blah.

I don't have to justify my likes, dislikes, etc on an Internet forum.

I'm going to buy one of these and see if I enjoy wearing it. If I do, great. If I don't, oh well.

The damned thing isn't even out yet, so how would I know with any sort of granular detail exactly how it will work for me day in and day out?

It's all speculation. The good AND the bad.

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Yeah. My 6 plus is huge. I think it'll be cool to throw it in my bag and get notifications on my wrist.

The difference is that YOU don't know as you are not a watch wearer. But Apple aren't holding their breath waiting for you or anyone else to say how much battery life they actually need. They probably have a Mark II that fixes the problem (and it is a problem).

My prediction is that there will not only be a newer version of this watch next year but there will be another productivity focussed watch as well which will strip out some non essentials and be a 'pro' version.

 

[chris975d]

I saw arguments from both camps. That the high end conventional watch is hand crafted. That it has long history in this field. That having a $200 electronic internal in a gold case is embarrassing.
And I also saw the argument that in the future if your $30,000 watch can't tell the exact time to the seconds like new smart watch, that it's always a few minutes late and face can't be changed, it will also be an embarrassment. And that wearing a watch that can do only one thing will be a waste of time.
Who knows, in the very near future taking iPhone out of the pocket to check notifications might look ridiculous, even though you're wearing $30,000 watch.
It's quite interesting to see how this will lead us to but like I said, the Watch needs to establish itself first.

That "$30,000 mechanical watch" would never have to be more than a couple of seconds late if you do the minimum 5-10 year maintenance on it. Not a one of my Rolexes is off by more than 2 seconds over the course of a month, if I don't reset them (I'm particular about that and keep up with it). That amazes me considering its a box of tiny rubies, springs, and gears. That's the beauty and artistry of a mechanical watch.

And your last sentence is pretty much what I've been saying. "Establishing yourself" is more or less establishing heritage/history, which I've been saying the Apple watch doesn't have. It would be like Rolex charging thousands for the first Submariner when it came out in 1954-ish. Instead it was $200 or so. Which is only like $2000 dollars or so in today's money, adjusted for inflation(if my inflation calculator is correct). But today's Submariner price has increased far beyond inflation, to $8600. That kind of price increase has been allowed by Rolexes established heritage. It'd be impossible for a new traditional watch company to come in today, unproven, and sell the ridiculous number of watches Rolex sells at the price they do today.

I don't troll Android forums. I don't buy Samsung products. They bore me. I might consider a TV. I owned a decent Samsung TV once. My device prior to the first iPhone was a Samsung Blackjack. It really was rather blah.



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Even though you and I DEFINITELY don't agree on the Apple watch , I usually have no problems with your posts. But this one...I don't get. Why does someone who doesn't like what Apple is doing with the watch idea, and expresses that, automatically a troll? Why is one of the fall back defenses/positions on this forum always "I don't troll manufacturer x's forums"? Can a person not generally like Apple, even own many of their products, and yet not like one of them? I normally really like Apple products, have owned every iPhone, most iPads, several laptops, so I'm obviously an Apple fan. But I think the Apple watch is one of the most half baked products they've developed. Even more so than the original iPhone, which I still bought on day one, because I saw where the future was going due to the development of the iPhone. Is a forum not a place for discussion, both pro and con of the manufacturer it represents? If it's not, and all supposed to be in devoted praise and placing that manufacturer on a pedestal as doing no wrong, then let's stop calling MacRumors a forum, and start calling it an online church

 

[bunnicula]

Even though you and I DEFINITELY don't agree on the Apple watch , I usually have no problems with your posts. But this one...I don't get. Why does someone who doesn't like what Apple is doing with the watch idea, and expresses that, automatically a troll? Why is one of the fall back defenses/positions on this forum always "I don't troll manufacturer x's forums"? Can a person not generally like Apple, even own many of their products, and yet not like one of them? I normally really like Apple products, have owned every iPhone, most iPads, several laptops, so I'm obviously an Apple fan. But I think the Apple watch is one of the most half baked products they've developed. Even more so than the original iPhone, which I still bought on day one, because I saw where the future was going due to the development of the iPhone. Is a forum not a place for discussion, both pro and con of the manufacturer it represents? If it's not, and all supposed to be in devoted praise and placing that manufacturer on a pedestal as doing no wrong, then let's stop calling MacRumors a forum, and start calling it an online church

Huh? I didn't call anyone a troll. I said that *I* do not troll Android forums. And, I do not. I don't really care what Samsung or any other company whose products I have no desire to purchase are up to that I cannot find out via news headlines and so forth.

I get that some people don't like Apple Watch. I also remember the damned near furor over the original iPhone's lack of 3G, lack of removable battery, short battery life, and lack of a removable battery.

Where is it now? The phone caught up with cellular data speeds and the battery has improved (partly due to size increases and partly due to battery technology). But, you still cannot swap out the battery and there's still no expansion card slot. Two things people swore would kill the product. They keep on swearing it. And... What did Samsung just do?

Anyway...

I fully expect that the watch (if the line even continues beyond the first generation) will change. All tech devices do. I just know that, as a first gen gadget, the specs that Apple has offered up are fine with me. I'm sure I will, as I use it, find things I do and do not like about the device. Things I wish they'd change, remove, add, etc.

I see no problem with people stating what they do or do not like about some device on a message board. But, this being Macrumors, it might be obvious that when you see a person posting about how they're looking forward to (whatever device) continually knocking them over the head and deconstructing their reasons for looking forward to trying out (whatever device) does come across a bit odd.

What is the purpose in it? I get it if someone asks for opinions, is undecided and wants advice, etc. But, I require no advice on the "to purchase or not to purchase" subject. I'm buying one because I want to. If anyone has feedback on attractive band choices, I'm quite interested, however.

And, of course Apple isn't waiting with bated breath for my take on their battery life situation. But, you may trust that their marketing department are quite eager for metrics that show that X million people are totally happy with (whatever stuff they're happy with...including battery life). Such data is woven into every product update keynote. "Everyone loves this thing already...(gestures at sales and marketing graphics)...and we're about to make it even better."

You know how that goes.

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Nobody I have asked wants to get one. I don't care I'm still waiting up to pre order mine

I would be saying that same thing if nobody I knew wanted one. Enjoy your watch.

 

[OllyW]

A few of my friends have asked about the Watch but mainly just to enquire if I am going to be getting one. I don't know anyone who is thinking of buying one, myself included.

 

[Carl Sagan]

None of my non tech/ geeky friends have mentioned it. A small number of my techs/ geek friends have mentioned it in a 'So think you might get an AW then?' kind of way...

 

[chris975d]

Huh? I didn't call anyone a troll. I said that *I* do not troll Android forums. And, I do not. I don't really care what Samsung or any other company whose products I have no desire to purchase are up to that I cannot find out via news headlines and so forth.



I get that some people don't like Apple Watch. I also remember the damned near furor over the original iPhone's lack of 3G, lack of removable battery, short battery life, and lack of a removable battery.



Where is it now? The phone caught up with cellular data speeds and the battery has improved (partly due to size increases and partly due to battery technology). But, you still cannot swap out the battery and there's still no expansion card slot. Two things people swore would kill the product. They keep on swearing it. And... What did Samsung just do?



Anyway...



I fully expect that the watch (if the line even continues beyond the first generation) will change. All tech devices do. I just know that, as a first gen gadget, the specs that Apple has offered up are fine with me. I'm sure I will, as I use it, find things I do and do not like about the device. Things I wish they'd change, remove, add, etc.



I see no problem with people stating what they do or do not like about some device on a message board. But, this being Macrumors, it might be obvious that when you see a person posting about how they're looking forward to (whatever device) continually knocking them over the head and deconstructing their reasons for looking forward to trying out (whatever device) does come across a bit odd.



What is the purpose in it? I get it if someone asks for opinions, is undecided and wants advice, etc. But, I require no advice on the "to purchase or not to purchase" subject. I'm buying one because I want to. If anyone has feedback on attractive band choices, I'm quite interested, however.



And, of course Apple isn't waiting with bated breath for my take on their battery life situation. But, you may trust that their marketing department are quite eager for metrics that show that X million people are totally happy with (whatever stuff they're happy with...including battery life). Such data is woven into every product update keynote. "Everyone loves this thing already...(gestures at sales and marketing graphics)...and we're about to make it even better."



You know how that goes.

Well...in talking about the original iPhone, let's all not forget what actually led the iPhone to become so successful and pretty much single handedly take Apple to where it is now (iPhone is by far their cash cow). Apple's most successful change to the original iPhone was working with the carriers and getting subsidization for the phones. The average person couldn't afford buying the original iPhone at unsubsidized pricing. If they had kept that pricing model, the iPhone would have never taken off like it did, in the numbers it did. At least in the Americas (Apple's biggest market, currently). The unsubsidized pricing model is probably also a big reason as to why iPad sales are falling. The average person can't fork out $600-1000 every few years. So they make their iPad purchase last longer.

I think this is one thing Apple is forgetting about the watch. If the average iPhone customer (again, talking American market) won't pay $600-1000 for an unsubsidized iPhone, how does Apple expect this to be a "market changing" device when the average price of the watch is in that range that people won't spend on the phone? Even if people buy the cheapest Apple watch Sport($349), it's going to be more expensive (out of pocket cost) than all but the most expensive SUBSIDIZED iPhone ($399 isn't it..I can't remember what I paid for the 6 Plus)? So Apple expects people to come out of pocket MORE for the wireless, wrist worn iphone controller than they did for the actual iPhone?

I think that is why, as this thread shows, people outside the cutting edge tech world aren't really interested in the Apple watch...price. Most average, non tech people actually think the iPhone costs what they pay when renewing contracts ($199, 299 subsidized price). They are clueless to the fact that the iPhone actually costs $650 and up. So now they are seeing prices for a watch (that's dependent on the iPhone) that costs more than what they paid for their phone.

So I think Apple is going to have to do something creative in regards to pricing to get more interest and widespread adoption of the Watch. The average person doesn't have that kind of money to spend on a watch. I deal with 150+ customers a day, from all walks of life. It might shock you to hear of the insight I get into the average person's financial situation. It's routine that I'm handed 2-5 credit cards just to find one that has enough balance room to purchase a $50 product. And just look at how many threads/posts have been made right here on this forum since the announcement of the Watch at how expensive the prices are. Apple has helped condition the masses to think that iPhones cost $99, $199, $299, $399. Now they are asking that or more for an iPhone accessory.

Anyway, that's my take on it, and why I think it'll be less successful than Apple and many posters here think it will be.

 

[Foss]

I'm the only one that is definitively getting one. I have a couple friends that are on the fence and are waiting to check it out in person before making a decision. I'm 100% certain, because being able to check messages and change my music on my wrist and my phone in pocket is enough of a reason. Add fun watch faces, the striking Milanese loop, and some fitness activity tracking, and that's enough for me to buy via pre-order on faith.

 

[Gav2k]

The people I work with think I'm nuts spending £949 on a watch

 

[bunnicula]

Well...in talking about the original iPhone, let's all not forget what actually led the iPhone to become so successful and pretty much single handedly take Apple to where it is now (iPhone is by far their cash cow). Apple's most successful change to the original iPhone was working with the carriers and getting subsidization for the phones. The average person couldn't afford buying the original iPhone at unsubsidized pricing. If they had kept that pricing model, the iPhone would have never taken off like it did, in the numbers it did. At least in the Americas (Apple's biggest market, currently). The unsubsidized pricing model is probably also a big reason as to why iPad sales are falling. The average person can't fork out $600-1000 every few years. So they make their iPad purchase last longer.

I think this is one thing Apple is forgetting about the watch. If the average iPhone customer (again, talking American market) won't pay $600-1000 for an unsubsidized iPhone, how does Apple expect this to be a "market changing" device when the average price of the watch is in that range that people won't spend on the phone? Even if people buy the cheapest Apple watch Sport($349), it's going to be more expensive (out of pocket cost) than all but the most expensive SUBSIDIZED iPhone ($399 isn't it..I can't remember what I paid for the 6 Plus)? So Apple expects people to come out of pocket MORE for the wireless, wrist worn iphone controller than they did for the actual iPhone?

I think that is why, as this thread shows, people outside the cutting edge tech world aren't really interested in the Apple watch...price. Most average, non tech people actually think the iPhone costs what they pay when renewing contracts ($199, 299 subsidized price). They are clueless to the fact that the iPhone actually costs $650 and up. So now they are seeing prices for a watch (that's dependent on the iPhone) that costs more than what they paid for their phone.

So I think Apple is going to have to do something creative in regards to pricing to get more interest and widespread adoption of the Watch. The average person doesn't have that kind of money to spend on a watch. I deal with 150+ customers a day, from all walks of life. It might shock you to hear of the insight I get into the average person's financial situation. It's routine that I'm handed 2-5 credit cards just to find one that has enough balance room to purchase a $50 product. And just look at how many threads/posts have been made right here on this forum since the announcement of the Watch at how expensive the prices are. Apple has helped condition the masses to think that iPhones cost $99, $199, $299, $399. Now they are asking that or more for an iPhone accessory.

Anyway, that's my take on it, and why I think it'll be less successful than Apple and many posters here think it will be.

You and I are in full agreement re: subsidies and Americans (in particular) who think iPhones actually cost what they pay via subsidy pricing.

There are many countries where consumers pay full price for iPhones, though, and iPhone is successful in those countries.

Getting the U.S. consumers to move past the notion that this watch ought to cost no more than 199 is indeed a hurdle that Apple will need to overcome, though.

I don't work with the retail public, but I do watch people splitting small purchases across multiple credit cards, so I know it happens. They'll want to work on the perceptions of people who might otherwise want an Apple Watch and the biggest will be "if I buy this watch, will it be obsolete in a year?"

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The people I work with think I'm nuts spending £949 on a watch

You sure they don't just secretly wonder if you're getting paid more than they are?

 

[profmjh]

The people I work with think I'm nuts spending £949 on a watch

When I go out for dinner, I'll spend up to £250 per head. A couple of my friends think I'm nuts.

Except I go out for dinner maybe twice a year. And when I do -- it's spectacular and memorable.

They meet for coffee every day during their lunch break. They spend £5 each time on coffee and maybe a cake. That's £25 a week. Over £1,000 a year.

Now who's nuts?

It's your money. You earned it. As long as you're meeting your commitments, spend it how you like.

 

[chris975d]

You and I are in full agreement re: subsidies and Americans (in particular) who think iPhones actually cost what they pay via subsidy pricing.



There are many countries where consumers pay full price for iPhones, though, and iPhone is successful in those countries.



Getting the U.S. consumers to move past the notion that this watch ought to cost no more than 199 is indeed a hurdle that Apple will need to overcome, though.



I don't work with the retail public, but I do watch people splitting small purchases across multiple credit cards, so I know it happens. They'll want to work on the perceptions of people who might otherwise want an Apple Watch and the biggest will be "if I buy this watch, will it be obsolete in a year?"

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You sure they don't just secretly wonder if you're getting paid more than they are?

Yep. And the Americas are Apple's largest market currently, with China thought to overtake it soon. So that perception of "costs more than an iPhone" is a very important one. Along with perceived obsolescence, which I think actually plays heavily off of price. The more expensive an item is for a person, the more concerned they are with getting full value/use/utility out of it.

 

[Patriot24]

All of my friends are going to trot out the same old eye rolls and whispers about me being a "fanboy". Then they'll go on rants about how there's no point in the product and that they don't need it because they have a phone already. Generally speaking, I'll be written off as a fool who wastes money on stupid Apple products and worships with the rest of the cult.

Then they'll all go out and buy one within 6 months.

 

[matrix07]

And your last sentence is pretty much what I've been saying. "Establishing yourself" is more or less establishing heritage/history, which I've been saying the Apple watch doesn't have.

Yes and no. No because I'm talkiang about establishing market. Yes because we might be, like you said, *more or less* talking about the same thing.
All these will be much clearer when gen. 2 is released. For all we know, the Watch might not sell and all will be moot.

 

[5105973]

Yeah people are definitely taking me up wrong. Buy it if you think it's fun. Good for you. But maybe there should be two versions of this watch on release day, Apple Watch Work and Aplel Watch Play. The Work version including the essentials for notifications, fitness and waterproofing that last the workin week. The play version including the high res display, wrist based hrm, doodle messaging etc. I'm pretty sure I know which would sell better.

I think you're a bit sucked in by Apple though which hardly makes you balanced in this discussion.

Lol your words have a tone that seem grumpy and that's supposed to be my schtick! I think this product is already diversified to a considerable level more than Apple usually splits up a product line. A work vs play version would be unnecessary when people can add or subtract or ignore or use apps that suit their tastes. It's supposed to be a customizable product.

Okay that's my reply to your on topic remarks

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Now lets nip something in the bud here. I see this on this forum a lot and I do not know why it's allowed to persist, but it's a bad habit of people deriding each other personally instead of remarking on the discussion points of what people are actually writing. I'd imagine I've commited the same faux pas and I should be stopped in my tracks when I do.

Attacking me as a person and my place in this discussion is not civil or productive. You're welcome to refute anything I say, that's to be expected in response to what I posted to you. To say I want something because it's going to be a fun experience does open up the discussion of whether or not it's a balanced and sensible reason to purchase. But to disrespect me as a person by saying in sum total I'm an unbiased person over that remark is uncalled for. The remark may seem unbiased and may be too frivolous to have a place in the discussion or may be open for debate. My character is not. And as long as I observe decorum and forum rules, my place in the discussion is not for you to moderate.

You don't know me or my history beyond what I've posted in snippets here and there. You don't know of the interest I've shown in non Apple products because up to now I saw no point discussing that here. It's more extensive than you'd be able to infer from one anecdote or a few posts in this thread.

Because of my husband's job we are able to bring home a lot of non Apple tablets, phones, wearables, etc. I get to try what interests me before it goes back to the development team. I can't help it if it has been Apple that has held my interest because of their design, quality, smooth integration across device types and generally positive sales and service experience. That's hardly being sucked in. It hardly makes me unbalanced. If anything, exposure to so many non Apple gadgets gives me a wide perspective.

The only time I was unable to articulate a satisfactory reason why I preferred an Apple device to non Apple ones was that whole Zune vs IPod story I related earlier. Granted, that does not reflect well on my intelligence, but it is a snapshot of my history and not the sum total of it. And if you look closer, you'll see that I gave in because I could not articulate the reasons for my preference. And that even though I acknowledged the inferior sound of the iPod/iPhone, it has been the IPhone/iPod music experience that lasted in our home even for my resistant husband. He is totally brand agnostic. His livelihood demands a high level of objectivity.

And by the way my desktop is an HP running Windows 7. Will skip 8. And my MacBook Pro laptop is dual boot so I can run some programs that run well only on Windows. My husband owns a Basis fitness watch he likes a lot.

We can get an idea of what a person is like from posted comments but really we can't know them as a person from them. So it's really not wise to degrade discussions here to remarks about a person. I would not presume to stick a label on you based on anything you posted here. I even just took the effort to specify that your remarks and tone seemed grumpy, not you. I can only judge the tone of the remarks. For all I know you were happy when you wrote them.

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Someone at work (who knows I'm interested in Apple) said "I saw an advert for the Watch!" I said "Did it make you want one?" and she, without a moments pause said "YES. And so does my boyfriend." Then I told her the price and she seemed less keen. So it's clearly a really appealing product, which will sell well enough initially that, so long as it genuinely solves a problem and has value, will become successful through word of mouth.

Another person at work said "Isn't it called iWatch?" I said "No, it's just Apple Watch." Her response was "No, I'm sure it's iWatch."

I keep calling it an iWatch myself and my husband keeps correcting me. It will take some getting used to. I wish it were called an iWatch.