What if Apple does not release a new MBP at WWDC in June?

[turbineseaplane]

To add to this list, they also did not mention the Touch Bar at all. Their one huge Mac feature, that was supposed to revolutionise how we use our macs and is only available on high end ones.

It wasn’t even mentioned. They didn’t say people love it. They didn’t add anything to it. They didn’t talk about upgrades to it. It’s like it doesn’t exist.

I'm glad about that - I hope the TouchBar gets canned and they just go all in on the one useful part of the TouchBar (TouchID) but move it up and put FaceID on the MacBooks. Makes great sense on the laptops and the detection and authentication will likely be perfect as the user is always in the sweet spot.

 

[samuels1]

Every way conceivable? Are you sure about that? I’d hate to point out the obvious.

But you haven't, because you can't.

 

[vseera]

But you haven't, because you can't.

2017 models are faster.
They have Thunderbolt 3, which lets us connect to external GPUs.

There. I don’t want to waste my time on a troll, but your “every conceivable way” argument goes up in flames.
I’ve just conceived (well not really as it was always obvious) of 2 ways 2017 models are better.

 

[turbineseaplane]

2017 models are faster.

Just "being faster" isn't automatically better enough to justify dealing other cons.

They have Thunderbolt 3, which lets us connect to external GPUs.

If you need eGPU power, great - if not, it's not some big benefit to "be able to do it".

And with that change of course brings "the ports" situation (all and only USB-C).
For some that's a huge mess of no fun, for some no big deal...

 

[samuels1]

2017 models are faster.

Wrong. The benchmarks show that some of the 16/17's are actually slower than 2015's and even 2014 macbook pro's.

https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks

They have Thunderbolt 3, which lets us connect to external GPUs.

Nobody uses external GPU's bruh.

 

[MrGunnyPT]

I’m waiting.

No point in buying a Dual Core 13” during mid year of 2018

 

[hajime]

I talked with an Apple employee. He asked "How are you?" I replied: "Not good because Apple did not release new MBP with improved keyboard. I am fed up with Apple."... Then, he mentioned that "traditionally" Apple releases new product in October. Is this true? Then, he mentioned "there are always new surprises coming in the future". So, I asked him how soon that future is. He asked me to buy 2017 model and if I don't like it, I just return it for a refund. I told him that I already did that for the 13" model. He said it is OK for me to try and return the 15" model as well in case new MBP will be out in two weeks. After long chats about other questions about 2017 machines, I asked again the chance of new MBP coming in a few weeks. Then, he mentioned that it might be "a while".

So, he does not know.

 

[NT1440]

I talked with an Apple employee. He asked "How are you?" I replied: "Not good because Apple did not release new MBP with improved keyboard. I am fed up with Apple."... Then, he mentioned that "traditionally" Apple releases new product in October. Is this true? Then, he mentioned "there are always new surprises coming in the future". So, I asked him how soon that future is. He asked me to buy 2017 model and if I don't like it, I just return it for a refund. I told him that I already did that for the 13" model. He said it is OK for me to try and return the 15" model as well in case new MBP will be out in two weeks. After long chats about other questions about 2017 machines, I asked again the chance of new MBP coming in a few weeks. Then, he mentioned that it might be "a while".

So, he does not know.

October is not an uncommon month for Mac updates.

 

[Glmnet1]

Age is irrelevant when said laptop is functionally superior in just about every way conceivable.

It's relevant because if you buy a 2015 laptop at $1999+ you're getting scammed. Laptops with internals similar to the 15" MBP are selling for ~$800 today and that's with a dGPU, the model Apple sells doesn't even have one.

If you really want to buy a 2015 at least buy it used.

 

[samuels1]

It's relevant because if you buy a 2015 laptop at $1999+ you're getting scammed. Laptops with internals similar to the 15" MBP are selling for ~$800 today and that's with a dGPU, the model Apple sells doesn't even have one.

If you really want to buy a 2015 at least buy it used.

I did.

 

[shaunp]

Well if there was an event in March that gave us refreshed notebooks then I wouldn’t be expecting them at WWDC. The point is not WWDC, it’s that it’s been a year since MBPs were updated and given the chips for them are out now Apple has no excuse unless they need more time fixing the keyboard.

Don’t get me started on the Mac book air, Mac mini, or Mac Pro.

Years ago, We used to get hardware updates at least once and sometimes twice a year. Waiting years now seems to be the norm.

I constantly hear the argument that the WWDC isn't for hardware updates, it's for software updates and yeah I get that. We used to get the occasional one in the WWDC because Apple had something to brag about, and later in the year new hardware would come out in time for the general release of OS X, iOS, etc.

Now we just don't see to get any hardware events and this is the area where Apple are most lacking. Their software and ecosystem is the best, but other than the iPad and Apple TV, there isn't s single piece of Apple hardware I would buy today. Not one. I used to have a Mac Pro, a MBP, MBA, mini, an iPhone and an Apple watch. I'm on PC and Android phones now because Apple hardware just doesn't deliver - not enough RAM, no ports, etc, etc.

Apple, where is the hardware event coming?
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Because it’s a developer conference not a hardware announcement ? Idk why people actually thought it would happen . Very rarely have they done it at WWDC for a while now. You have the iPhone 4, iPad Pro 2017 and the 2013 MacBook.

The problem is they don't have hardware events any more, and the current hardware sucks.

 

[Acronyc]

Nobody uses external GPU's bruh.

I do. And a lot of others do too.

 

[hajime]

I do. And a lot of others do too.

Have you tried using it with Linux? Does it work well?

 

[applebro]

I thought everyone said that Apple is always waiting on intel....lul guess not

 

[lcseds]

I wish they would update the internals on the 2015 15" MBP and call it the 2018 MBP Classic. That way they could save face with the keyboard/touchbar stuff (keep current models with updates) and still sell tons of MBP's by utilizing the form factor so many desire. Then meld the two for the 2019 model.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I wish they would update the internals on the 2015 15" MBP and call it the 2018 MBP Classic. That way they could save face with the keyboard/touchbar stuff (keep current models with updates) and still sell tons of MBP's by utilizing the form factor so many desire. Then meld the two for the 2019 model.

Me too - Hell, they still make it and have all the tooling up and running.

I'd love to see a MacBook Pro SE for one more run at the classic form factor with updated internals to get us through until the all ARM MacBook world comes.

Maybe just swap one of the USB-A's out for a USB-C, update the HDMI port to 2.0 and it's honestly good to go.

 

[hajime]

I use Keynote to give presentations including job talks. With possible reliability issue, is it risky to get a Windows laptop and Hackintosh it so that I can run Keynote?

 

[jerryk]

I use Keynote to give presentations including job talks. With possible reliability issue, is it risky to get a Windows laptop and Hackintosh it so that I can run Keynote?

Switch to Powerpoint. It runs on Windows and MacOS and is a more powerful presentation tool. Also, the user base is huge and it is the "Standard" presentation tool.

 

[meme1255]

Switch to Powerpoint. It runs on Windows and MacOS and is a more powerful presentation tool. Also, the user base is huge and it is the "Standard" presentation tool.

Powerpoint is more powerful?!? In which aspect? Keynote is much better.

Word > Pages
Excel >> Numbers
Keynote >> Powerpoint.

IMHO.

 

[hanser]

Powerpoint is more powerful?!? In which aspect? Keynote is much better.

Word > Pages
Excel >> Numbers
Keynote >> Powerpoint.

IMHO.

I agree. And it is free.

 

[Spytap]

Switch to Powerpoint. It runs on Windows and MacOS and is a more powerful presentation tool. Also, the user base is huge and it is the "Standard" presentation tool.

I use both, and have for a decade now. I don't know your industry or workflow, but for mine Powerpoint is vastly inferior to Keynote. Keynote is actually what's keeping me in the Apple ecosystem at the moment, but I'd consider hackintoshing if needed.

 

[hajime]

I use both, and have for a decade now. I don't know your industry or workflow, but for mine Powerpoint is vastly inferior to Keynote. Keynote is actually what's keeping me in the Apple ecosystem at the moment, but I'd consider hackintoshing if needed.

I am thinking the same.

 

[EugW]

I use both, and have for a decade now. I don't know your industry or workflow, but for mine Powerpoint is vastly inferior to Keynote. Keynote is actually what's keeping me in the Apple ecosystem at the moment, but I'd consider hackintoshing if needed.

I stopped using Keynote about 4 years ago actually.

 

[jerryk]

I use both, and have for a decade now. I don't know your industry or workflow, but for mine Powerpoint is vastly inferior to Keynote. Keynote is actually what's keeping me in the Apple ecosystem at the moment, but I'd consider hackintoshing if needed.

I do live presentations at conferences and create technical training videos. I also share presentations with others. In these areas Powerpoint is superior IMHO.

 

[The Mercurian]

I've never used Keynote. Every conference room I've ever presented in used windows machines. I wouldn't take the risk of non-compaltiblity by using Keynote.