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[kazmac]

Sympatico Ms...

I'm in the minority, have mentioned this before, but can't help myself, X-Men Origins: Wolverine was a terrific background tie-in to X-Men and X2 capturing the same atmosphere, including the best ensemble performance of iconic characters in a single X-Men movie imho, with Hugh Jackman (Logan), Danny Houston (Stryker), Liev Schreiber (Victor Creed), Taylor Kitch (Remy Lebeau), Kevin Durand (Fred Dukes), William Adams* (John Wraith), Lynn Collins (Kayla Silverfox), and Ryan Reynolds (Wade Wilson).

*Has adopted a silly stage name- Will.i.am.

While disconnected from comic material (like what came before it) it was consistent with these two previous movies, something I value. And I'm still aggravated with the at-odds portrayals of the barely able to speak Sabertooth in X-Men vs Mr. intellectual in Origins:Wolverine lol, something Marvel needs to get a handle on. I just talked myself into popping in XMO:W!

I fixed that first line for you.

Otherwise, I can understand why you liked XMO:W. (I prefer XM: OW! better, it makes sense with all the painful crap Logan endures...)

I thought Will.i.am did a good job as John Wrath and I liked Ryan here as he proved to me he was perfect for Wade. Well okay, I didn't like him AFTER the opening sequence, but that is not Ryan Reynolds fault.

Begin tangent/ (Wraith was the only other legitimate original Team X/Weapon X character in XM:OW! besides Sabertooth. Silver Fox, it depends on whose work you read. Anyway, it would have been Agent Zero too if they didn't completely change the character from Maverick's transformation in the comics. I still dig Maverick, but the liberties they took with his Agent Zero incarnation don't bother me in XM:OW!) end tangent/

XM:OW! brought up some interesting twists and turns to Logan's history. I do actually like the way the film set up his amnesia (very clever actually, as was the place where the final fight takes place, Three Mile Island LOL), but overall it wasn't as satisfying a Wolverine movie as The Wolverine to me. Still, I can appreciate XM: OW! for some elements and I am glad you brought up that it was a link to the first two films.

I suppose outside of 300 and Hellboy, there hasn't really been another comic book film that is so true to its source. And that's okay. I try not to lose my heart over stuff (tune in after I see Doctor Strange and weep in utter frustration about no magic for the sorcerer supreme ), but every-so-often some things I love about the characters in the comics, I would love to see in the movies too.

Anyway...rolling off soap box.

 

[S.B.G]

The Shining (1980)

A family heads to an isolated hotel for the winter where an evil and spiritual presence influences the father into violence, while his psychic son sees horrific forebodings from the past and of the future.

 

[Huntn]

I fixed that first line for you.

Otherwise, I can understand why you liked XMO:W. (I prefer XM: OW! better, it makes sense with all the painful crap Logan endures...)

I thought Will.i.am did a good job as John Wrath and I liked Ryan here as he proved to me he was perfect for Wade. Well okay, I didn't like him AFTER the opening sequence, but that is not Ryan Reynolds fault.

Begin tangent/ (Wraith was the only other legitimate original Team X/Weapon X character in XM:OW! besides Sabertooth. Silver Fox, it depends on whose work you read. Anyway, it would have been Agent Zero too if they didn't completely change the character from Maverick's transformation in the comics. I still dig Maverick, but the liberties they took with his Agent Zero incarnation don't bother me in XM:OW!) end tangent/

XM:OW! brought up some interesting twists and turns to Logan's history. I do actually like the way the film set up his amnesia (very clever actually, as was the place where the final fight takes place, Three Mile Island LOL), but overall it wasn't as satisfying a Wolverine movie as The Wolverine to me. Still, I can appreciate XM: OW! for some elements and I am glad you brought up that it was a link to the first two films.

I suppose outside of 300 and Hellboy, there hasn't really been another comic book film that is so true to its source. And that's okay. I try not to lose my heart over stuff (tune in after I see Doctor Strange and weep in utter frustration about no magic for the sorcerer supreme ), but every-so-often some things I love about the characters in the comics, I would love to see in the movies too.

Anyway...rolling off soap box.

I had no idea you are a Ms... I've suggested that gender would be helpful info for MRs forum conversations... And bro rhymed with simpatico.

I don't have much background with comic source material so you are ahead of me in that department. I did read the first 15 years of X-Men ironically after being irritated how they treated Dr. Jean Grey in X-Men United (3) and subsequently read about the Dark Pheonix Saga which was completely different in the original story as compared to a travesty in the movie where she kills Cyclops and Xavier and joins with Magneto because her inner psycho has emerged. The nerve!! An entire movie should have dedicated to the DPS.

The original Hell Boy movie was such an unexpected treat!

 

[Ulenspiegel]

Geroy/Герой (2016.) Russian movie. A good one.

 

[kazmac]

Geroy/Герой (2016.) Russian movie. A good one.

Sounds interesting, do elaborate please.

I had no idea you are a Ms... I've suggested that gender would be helpful info for MRs forum conversations... And bro rhymed with simpatico.

I don't have much background with comic source material so you are ahead of me in that department. I did read the first 15 years of X-Men ironically after being irritated how they treated Dr. Jean Grey in X-Men United (3) and subsequently read about the Dark Pheonix Saga which was completely different in the original story as compared to a travesty in the movie where she kills Cyclops and Xavier and joins with Magneto because her inner psycho has emerged. The nerve!! An entire movie should have dedicated to the DPS.

The original Hell Boy movie was such an unexpected treat!

Re: gender. No worries. I prefer using male avatars because they often represent characters / actors / etc. I like.

Yeah, XM3 The Last Stand was a serious cluster-bleep of the Dark Phoenix Saga and it really annoyed me they killed Scott off in such a senseless way. James Marsden really nailed Scott/Cyclops and he was utterly wasted in that role. I like Famke too, but again, I am not sure they really know what to do with Jean.

I haven't read comics in years outside of 2000 A.D.'s Slaine and now possibly jumping back into Moon Knight. I just remember a lot of the stories I read and still love. Film-wise, I am pretty open to interpretation as the tweak on Bucky / The Winter Soldier has largely worked (and I'm thrilled that it sounds a pivotal element of first arc of the WS solo series may have been used in Civil War)... In truth, I know very, very little about the X-Men as whole. Wolverine and Maverick were my mutants of choice.

The first Hellboy is golden (army) I loved the interpretation of Rasputin too (I have something of a Rasputin obsession so), but Kronen was the villain to beat. So creepy. That film is one of the most entertaining tweaks on the choices and values people chose for themselves, not to mention, cracking on the good vs. evil theme. I truly wish Del Toro would just stop everything else and make Hellboy 3 while Perlman can still endure the full body make ups. I still use "Aw Crap!" instead of some other four letter words too. I have nothing but nice things to say about that film.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Geroy/Герой (2016.) Russian movie. A good one.

I loved Leviathan, which was a superb movie; anyway, I would be very interested in learning more about this movie.

 

[S.B.G]

Run Silent Run Deep (1958)

A U.S. sub commander, obsessed with sinking a certain Japanese ship, butts heads with his first officer and crew.

 

[Ulenspiegel]

@kazmac and @Scepticalscribe

Well, hard to write a resume (and not telling too much, hoping you will watch it ) about a movie that embraces almost a century in a life of a noble Russian family and two officers of the Tsarist Army. The tale starts in 1914, the two officers fall in love with the two daughters of the noble Russian family in question. First World War, Russian Revolution, the couples torn apart. Exile in Paris. Time-shift, present day, the story follows, the descendants of the couples/lovers are meant to meet each other (by chance or not ) in Paris.

P.S.: S, if I remember correctly, you speak Russian, here is a site with plenty of information about this movie.

 

[kazmac]

@kazmac and @Scepticalscribe

Well, hard to write a resume (and not telling too much, hoping you will watch it ) about a movie that embraces almost a century in a life of a noble Russian family and two officers of the Tsarist Army. The tale starts in 1914, the two officers fall in love with the two daughters of the noble Russian family in question. First World War, Russian Revolution, the couples torn apart. Exile in Paris. Time-shift, present day, the story follows, the descendants of the couples/lovers are meant to meet each other (by chance or not ) in Paris.

P.S.: S, if I remember correctly, you speak Russian, here is a site with plenty of information about this movie.

Thanks. Sounds like an interesting story.

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Captain America The Winter Soldier I was happily able to appreciate this a lot this evening. In fact, watching it brought back all the awesome memories of stumbling into this comic storyline by Ed Brubaker almost eleven years ago. Yes, I keep bringing that up because the story of the Winter Soldier and who he is in relation to Cap is brilliantly told in the comic and nicely done here. I am happy to see that there's not as much obvious stuntman slip ins as I've though during the still awesome highway fight. This'll tide me over until I can see Civil War.

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Kid with a Tattoo A case of mistaken identity in Sun Chung's slightly daft 1980 kung fu comedy. My Shaw Brothers allergy Wang Yue plays the title character, the son of a famous Cotton Mill owner who'd rather be a kung fu hero than take over dad's business. When the kid befriends an undercover cop who is investigating drug running and such in the area, said cop teaches the kid kung fu, but not before said cop is assassinated. Title kid overhears this conversation between cop and assassin and thinks his hard nosed father is the crime boss in mentioned during the hit (The Sword-in-Cotton.)

Firstly, this film is not funny because of Wang Yue. I do not know why so many Shaws directors fawned over this young buck. He wasn't a great martial artist and his earnest attempts at aping Fu Sheng were never successful. For some reason, Sun Chung used him a lot (which is my only quibble with Sun Chung as I either really like or love every film I've seen by Sun in spite of his casting Wang Yue.)

My reason for rewatching is the amazing weapons fight between two of the Seven Little Fortunes, the great Yuen Wah (who often played villains); he's brilliant here as the spear slinging assassin and the equally wonderful Yuen Bun who gives Wah a run for his money as the undercover cop who is pretty damn good with the double sword. And too, the fight between Wah and Dick Wei's cop (which is sadly way too short.) It seems that this will be among the next wave of titles Celestial will post on iTunes (thereby ignoring my pleas for my favorite Sun Chung films in digital format), but I'll buy it anyway because of these fantastic fights and because I dig Sun Chung's tales of laws and lawlessness. He's quickly become a favorite director of mine for his stories and visuals. Always gets the best from his actors too, well almost all of his actors anyway.

 

[Huntn]

Sounds interesting, do elaborate please.




Re: gender. No worries. I prefer using male avatars because they often represent characters / actors / etc. I like.

Yeah, XM3 The Last Stand was a serious cluster-bleep of the Dark Phoenix Saga and it really annoyed me they killed Scott off in such a senseless way. James Marsden really nailed Scott/Cyclops and he was utterly wasted in that role. I like Famke too, but again, I am not sure they really know what to do with Jean.

I haven't read comics in years outside of 2000 A.D.'s Slaine and now possibly jumping back into Moon Knight. I just remember a lot of the stories I read and still love. Film-wise, I am pretty open to interpretation as the tweak on Bucky / The Winter Soldier has largely worked (and I'm thrilled that it sounds a pivotal element of first arc of the WS solo series may have been used in Civil War)... In truth, I know very, very little about the X-Men as whole. Wolverine and Maverick were my mutants of choice.

The first Hellboy is golden (army) I loved the interpretation of Rasputin too (I have something of a Rasputin obsession so), but Kronen was the villain to beat. So creepy. That film is one of the most entertaining tweaks on the choices and values people chose for themselves, not to mention, cracking on the good vs. evil theme. I truly wish Del Toro would just stop everything else and make Hellboy 3 while Perlman can still endure the full body make ups. I still use "Aw Crap!" instead of some other four letter words too. I have nothing but nice things to say about that film.

The first Hellboy is golden (army)
You mean in the comic, certainly not in the movie. I disliked the second movie, primarily because HB was making all the same little comments he made in the first one. It just seemed lacking to me as compared to the first movie.

 

[Spencerdl]

 

[kazmac]

The first Hellboy is golden (army)
You mean in the comic, certainly not in the movie. I disliked the second movie, primarily because HB was making all the same little comments he made in the first one. It just seemed lacking to me as compared to the first movie.

I was punning the first Hellboy film. I really enjoyed it and so thought of saying it was Golden.

The sequel movie Golden Army really felt off to me too. I loved the designs of the Dark Elves, but I don't think they were a credible threat nor evil enough. And sorry I can't see elves doing martial arts (the video game stupidity of Peter Jackson's elves is bad enough.)

Still, it was fun to see the ghost in the diving style suit (I think his name is Johann and Seth McFarlane was funny in that role). Abe had a nice arc too, but Hellboy was kind of second fiddle to Abe in Golden Army and it really didn't feel like an HB film. Had it been other characters stopping the elves it might have been more successful for me.

 

[impulse462]

Double Indemnity: quintessential film noir. some great directing by Billy Wilder. the scene where his manager enters his apartment with barbara stanwyck behind the door was super tense. I thought this was better than his other really good film Sunset Blvd. (both are classics, no doubt)

Captain America: Civil War: pretty terrible, not much else to say

 

[S.B.G]

Double Indemnity: quintessential film noir. some great directing by Billy Wilder. the scene where his manager enters his apartment with barbara stanwyck behind the door was super tense. I thought this was better than his other really good film Sunset Blvd. (both are classics, no doubt)

I watched this great film noir last night on TCM. Always a great one to see again.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Double Indemnity: quintessential film noir. some great directing by Billy Wilder. the scene where his manager enters his apartment with barbara stanwyck behind the door was super tense. I thought this was better than his other really good film Sunset Blvd. (both are classics, no doubt)

Captain America: Civil War: pretty terrible, not much else to say

Agreed; both Sunset Boulevard and Double Indemnity are superb movies, boasting terrific casts, excellent stories and scripts; they are beautifully shot classic, elegant, movies, and are both utterly timeless. Great examples of movie making as art.

 

[Tech198]

The Mask (1994)

 

[kazmac]

Shaolin Temple (1976) Hands down, my favorite of the Shaw Brothers Shaolin Cycle films. Almost 25 minutes of a variety of kung fu on display in the final fight as the courts storm the legendary temple to destroy the practitioners of kung fu.

Me, I could watch Ti Lung perform Wing Chun for 30 minutes (not just a minute.) Ditto for Lu Feng and Kuo Choi going mano-a-mano. Kuo's body lifting kung fu versus Lu's awesome double swords and tumbling work.

Unlike most Shaolin films though, this does have a good story and many of the young trainees at the temple are fleshed out somewhat. So you wind up caring about them and appreciating that some of the bad guys aren't as one dimensional as they can be. But then, a Lu Feng glare speaks volumes. Lots of fun training sequences and that epic last fight which cuts to a variety of students fighting the baddies. I think this was Chang Cheh's most accomplished staging of main practitioners / actors and extras. Acrobatics, Wing Chun, Weapons work, Hung Gar etc. Some terrific styles, shapes and forms in this movie.

For me, it's one of those Shaw Brothers films that makes me stop what I'm doing (in this case, reading for my Lit class) and draws me in. With 88 Films starting to release Shaw Brothers movies on Blu Ray (as Celestial are so damn slow), I hope Shaolin Temple makes the grade. One of my favorite martial arts films for it's variety of kung fu and many entertaining characters.

 

[pachyderm]

I was punning the first Hellboy film. I really enjoyed it and so thought of saying it was Golden.

The sequel movie Golden Army really felt off to me too. I loved the designs of the Dark Elves, but I don't think they were a credible threat nor evil enough. And sorry I can't see elves doing martial arts (the video game stupidity of Peter Jackson's elves is bad enough.)

Still, it was fun to see the ghost in the diving style suit (I think his name is Johann and Seth McFarlane was funny in that role). Abe had a nice arc too, but Hellboy was kind of second fiddle to Abe in Golden Army and it really didn't feel like an HB film. Had it been other characters stopping the elves it might have been more successful for me.

i liked both films but i don't think they are "good", or "quality" films. i just like the comic and the look of the films.

 

[Huntn]

i liked both films but i don't think they are "good", or "quality" films. i just like the comic and the look of the films.

IMO, the first Hell Boy had outstanding atmosphere, characters, story, and execution.

 

[pachyderm]

i loved it.

but i'm no film critic, i only know what i like.

it's like billy bob films, i don't believe him as an actor so i don't usually like his films. sounds like he's reading.

another example, one of my favorite films al time is the razor's edge w/bill ****ing murray. love that film. is it great? no. is he a great actor? no. but i love it.

 

[kazmac]

IMO, the first Hell Boy had outstanding atmosphere, characters, story, and execution.

Which translates into quality for me.

I am finally seeing Captain America Civil War tonight, the Bucky fan in me has been yelling for weeks. I just got another invite to see it next month too. 2x for free, works for me.

 

[kazmac]

Captain America Civil War - well, I loved Bucky (no surprise). Ditto Falcon and T'Challa. Of course, I'll see this again and will buy because of those three.

Spoiler

And I think I'm stuck on Tony Stank. LOL.

The motorcycle grab was pure comic book, terrific. I love the WS flash back scenes and the whole look of the Siberian facility. It felt like cold war Soviet, kind of clunky but industrial and purely functional. Very much of that era. Anthony Mackie was terrific and he had some seriously funny dialog. I love the new suit and the red wing tweak was fun too.

I had major issues with the reveal of Zemo's plan and was quite annoyed another great Ed Brubaker storyline was jettisoned as a result. I find it complete and utter BS these screenwriters couldn't make a viable Cap sequel without turning it into Civil War and therefore an Avengers movie. There's enough material from Ed's Cap and Winter Soldier runs to fortify at least a trilogy, even with tweaks. It just proves to me these screenwriters drop the ball in the clutch as this was another ho hum third act (although the best of their 3rd acts thus far.) While I liked seeing Jeremy Renner and Don Cheadle again, I thought they were wasted and there was utterly no need for the Vision and Scarlet Witch. I didn't feel the stakes were high at all especially when Zemo revealed the truth to Steve, Tony and Bucky.

This is also the first time I didn't care about what was going with Steve - I was bummed about that.

This movie makes me want a Joe Johnston Winter Soldier Cold War era film badly with Ed Brubaker writing please. Sebastian Stan is just so great and they really need to start giving him a lot more screen time. So while I enjoyed portions of this immensely, for me, Captain America The Winter Soldier is the better film.

 

[S.B.G]

All this Star Trek TV show talk lately has caused me to watch a few Star Trek movies today.

Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979)

When an alien spacecraft of enormous power is spotted approaching Earth, Admiral Kirk resumes command of the Starship Enterprise in order to intercept, examine and hopefully stop the intruder.

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982)

With the assistance of the Enterprise crew, Admiral Kirk must stop an old nemesis, Khan Noonien Singh, from using the life-generating Genesis Device as the ultimate weapon.

 

[S.B.G]

Battle of the Worlds (1961)

A runaway asteroid dubbed "The Outsider" mysteriously begins orbiting the Earth and threatens it with lethal flying saucers.

 

[JamesMike]

Battle of the Worlds (1961)


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Claude Rains was a good actor.