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I'm tired of this remark. No other Apple iPod had a touch screen, wifi, a direct YouTube app, and so on. The Touch, and future products from Apple are about moving ahead not staying behind. Every business I know that doesn't move forward eventually fails, getting left behind by the competition. Apple knows this. The mindset you expressed would have left wifi AND the touchscreen off the Touch, simply because no other ipod had ever had those features before. .

This is true, and I'm sorry to state the obvious. Keep in mind, though, that before the Touch and iPhone the concepts of WiFi, YouTube, etc. were almost never requested by customers. They were added to simply stay ahead of other technology.

On the other hand, customers have been requesting FM radio since the iPod's debut. And Apple has still yet to add it. It's the kind of thing that if they haven't incorporated this simple technology yet, I doubt they ever will.
 
I'm betting they will either lower the price and leave the hardware the same, perhaps simply adding a 64gb version (or 48gb just to be unique), or

Leave the prices the same for each memory model, but add some little hardware feature. Anything the iPhone has that the Touch doesn't would be welcome, as then more apps will work with both the iPhone and the Touch. There are a growing number of apps that are using location, and so a cheap GPS chip makes sense even if it never does navigation.

The iPhone has a camera. Adding one to the Touch would require more hardware/case modification including a whole new line of cases. Very unlikely.

There are 1/2 dozen voice recorder apps, and a mic wouldn't be hard to add. The connections are already there internally. I'd say this one is a 50% chance.

Speaker? Not if it gets a mic. I doubt Apple wants an easy VOIP app competing with the iPhone.

Then there is bluetooth. Two things make me hope Apple adds this to the Touch. One: Sony, Samsung, Philips, and Insignia all have bluetooth 2.0 available on their high end models. It's not an expensive chip to add. Two: More cars are coming with bluetooth receivers. Save the cost of adding ipod dock connectors to cars by simply adding a cheap bluetooth receiver to the car for a bluetooth enabled Touch.

Not changing the hardware after 1 year has not been Apple's style lately so I think they may tweak it a bit
 
i know this will never happen, but a CAMERA! .. and maybe bluetooth.

but i know the camera would never happen. i doubt the iphone sales would go down incase of an ipod touch camera, but if it had a camera, it would just be a iphone. . w/o the phone.
 
i know this will never happen, but a CAMERA! .. and maybe bluetooth.

but i know the camera would never happen. i doubt the iphone sales would go down incase of an ipod touch camera, but if it had a camera, it would just be a iphone. . w/o the phone.

Don't be so quick to be doubtful
We'll never know what will happen.
A camera on the touch would be amazing.
And I don't think it will ruin iPhone sales.

I'm sick of the ten different threads on the iPod updates in september.
Everyone just go here, this will make things wayyy easier.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/539183/
 
This is true, and I'm sorry to state the obvious. Keep in mind, though, that before the Touch and iPhone the concepts of WiFi, YouTube, etc. were almost never requested by customers. They were added to simply stay current and even catch up in some cases .
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Really? What were they catching up to?

Well they were a few mp3/pmp devices out before the ipod touch, that has wif and flash support(native youtube pages for many of these devices), like the nokia tablets, Archos PMA, 604, newer 605 and what ever the planned 606 series devices offers, a buch of windows ce and linux based devices from Korea, and Japan, and so forth. Most of these devices actually had a form of native flash support so you could do youtube natively(with out required software when done right), it just the ipod touch/iphone made it trendy and desirable.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the iPod Touch already have speakers? I mean, if it didn't, then what makes the alarm's sounds? I just wonder why these speakers can't be used to play audio or sound through without headphones...
 
i don't think so... Classic is... the apple classic! since the beginning apple used classic. Ipod touch can get to the same sizes of 80 gb and so but for like the double of the price of the classic but i do think they'll make some change to the classic like touch-screen. click wheel still one really nice thing of apple and is like a trademark already! like the one button mouse! ehhe.
Speaking of one-buttoned mouses you know what happened with mighty mouse, right?

Small speaker... i think they won't give us that, there is no need, ipod touch still a personal object they would lose time on trying to give something that doesn't have much functionality for the most of the people who buys. On the other way... it would be nice to show portfolios with sound!
Showing a funny clip from YouTube to pals would be better with built-in speaker.

Lock screen position? Like what?
Like when I lie in bed it changes the view from horizontal to vertical as I change the position. It's annoying and there should be some way to lock the screen in one position. Could be easily done with some firmware patch.
 
Well, you pay US$299 for an iPod touch but you pay US$299 + activation fee + 24x monthly fees for voice + extra monthly fee for unlimited data + extra monthly fee for x amount of SMS messages.

The touch is still much, much cheaper than an iPhone.

yeah but all those extra charges dont go to apple do they.

or do they? do the cell companies kinda subsidise the price of the iphone so long as you then sign up to all those things which the net result will be more profit.

id like to see

1. price cut
2. GPS perhaps BT just for wireless headphones (though people will use it to share things which i can see apple will not like)
3. better apps, and access to more without having JB or pay
4. better video format support

above all though....

5. better sound processing quality and a set of much better ear phones, or maybe a choice between in ear or over ear cans. if the old skool style cans were of sufficient quality id be willing to part with more cash just to get them instead of the terrible buds they package now. (yes i have been spoiled by the likes of Shure for years now)

im not big on the other things..... space isnt really a need for me, i dont have a large music collection and i cant understand people who have massive 40gb+ collections. i mean do u seriously listen to all of it? i know plenty of people with large music collections but when i actually ask them this question the truth comes out.... they barely listen to any of it, just the same few albums over n over.

more space is always nice, but 8GB is just fine for me

please, no cameras, they dont need it and besides thanks to crummy lenses and tiny CCD's image quality sucks the big one anyway.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the iPod Touch already have speakers? I mean, if it didn't, then what makes the alarm's sounds? I just wonder why these speakers can't be used to play audio or sound through without headphones...

its likely only one speaker, and a small one at that and one probably not designed for the act of playing numerous frequencies at once.
 
I just want more space and cheaper pricing points.
I like your thinking. The "more space" I want is a larger screen. Everything else these days comes "super-sized", so I think Apple should make a Touch that's 1.5 times larger than the current one. They can call it the iPod TOUCH!
 
I only want a couple of things.

  • Price cut
  • Speakers
  • Bluetooth

Other than that I don't want much of anything. I wouldn't want a bigger screen because I don't want the iPod touch to be any bigger than it is now. I certainly don't want it to be the size of a small tablet.
 
The iPod Touch 2 should...

Be an iPhone 3G look alike
64GB capacity would be nice, but 32GB is fine too

That's it really, my 5G video's battery is permanently dead, and I'm not paying $120 to put a new battery in a device that sells for $90 on a good day. A sales associate at the Apple store said that it was 2 weeks out of warranty, so he wouldn't be able to replace it, but he'd give me 10% off a new iPod model. I might do that, or just wait for my own companies "Apple thank you month" which is in November anyway.
 
iPhone without the phone

I'd like to see a full iPhone without the phone. I will never go with AT&T. And the 3G iPhone will be strictly AT&T only, very tight. But I do want a Touch with the full iPhone features (camera, speaker, side buttons, ect.).

If you know anyone who is upgrading from 1st gen. iPhone to iPhone 3G, they could sell you their 1st iPhone and it would be just that -- an iPhone without the phone part. Pretty nifty. And hopefully these will be cheap to come by pretty soon (I checked on ebay and right now they're going for more than the 3G costs! Doesn't make much sense.).
 
a price cut would be fab!
Dont change the memory on it. if people want a 64GB for their music, just get a classic.

may be we dont want to get the classic? may be we want the touch. Plus no classic is offered in 64 anymore.


People like you dont need to tell us what we should and what we shouldnt...
 
- Give me one with a memory slot.
- Improve the UI to have settings intergrated with the players they work for.
- Put Bluetooth stereo on it, with support for file transfer, two headsets, phone pairing, keyboard.
- Put a mic in it for voice recording and voice command.
- Add optical digital output to the headphone jack.
- Put an IR sensor/transmitter on it. Make it work with the iMac remote control, and be able to transfer contacts via IR.
- Put a key slot on the back for a wind-up key/crank.
- Make it stylus sensing too.
- Removeable, user-replaceable battery.
- Chroma changing paint, changes case colors with a settings option.
- Self destruct option with paint packet to spray thieves.
- Make it lucky.
- Put in a thermostat to keep itself always at the same temp.
- Give it a personality. Microsoft Bob, anyone?
- Buy one, get on free.
- preload them with music and current movies.
- Make them completely biodegradable.

Just some thoughts. ;)
 
I have low expectations, just basing on what has happened with the line since it's induction.

- 64gb capacity, higher would be nice, but I'd be satisfied with that.
- Volume buttons on the side.
- Stainless steel backing.
- More scratch-resistant glass.
- Bluetooth.

That's about all I have. I would say a speaker, but there's no way, because then it'd just be converted somehow into an iPhone and Apple knows that.

So there it is.
 
  • 16, 32 and 64GB models
  • possible HD verson with up to 160GB
  • user replaceable battery
  • iphone plastic backing (keep things constant)
  • "ishare" (wireless share songs, videos and other content between ipod touch and iphone users)
  • Digital FM tuner (I may want to listen to the news while i'm on my way to work in the morning. nothing worng with that)
  • physical volume, pause, play, fast forward and back buttons. All in chrome.
  • 4.3" LCD
  • Option to change the background on the actual home page. .
  • Bulit in Camera w/ video conferencing (though not on top of my list)
  • bluetooth
  • external speakers
thats about it. For those who are complaning about us with large music collections. Does it really bother you if we have large music collections? Some dont fell like shuffling our music around some want to keep all their libary together.

those who complain really need to get a realty check and get a life.
 
Now that we're getting closer to an Apple event re-freshing the product line in time for the Christmas market, I'm revisiting my earlier post again in this thread.

Here's my (revised) thoughts on what will happen in the next few weeks:

To get a steer on where the iPod Touch is heading, you only need to look at the recently announced changes to the iPhone 3G - ie. there were hardly any that would make the jump to the iPod Touch - most of the changes were mobile technologies (3G, GPS - and a design change to incorporate them). The big exception was the App Store, which I reckon will start to feature in almost every aspect of Apple's future releases - especially where the iPod line is concerned. App Store is the software equivalent of iTunes - it won't make Apple huge sums in profit, but it will drive sales of iPhones and iPods.

As people have reasoned out on other message threads, here's the possible directions for the Touch:

Bluetooth: possible, but unlikely. Why? Well, Bluetooth is largely a mobile phone technology and it's generally for making calls via BT-enabled devices. The only benefit to the Touch would be adding it to a remote speaker system, or playing music in-car - which would totally zap the battery and render it somewhat pointless.

GPS - this is possible, but unlikely. The iPhone uses a combination of 3G and wi-fi to locate your position with the GPS chipset, so it probably isn't going to make it to the iPod Touch, as it would rely entirely on wi-fi to be of any significant use without dramatically increasing the size of the device. in order to self-power in the way an in-car GPS unit does Again, GPS is largely a mobile technology, or in-car. Apple would damage the iPhone sales if they were to cross over too many of the phone-only technologies to the Touch.

Design/case change - this is possible, to bring it in line with the iPhone manufacturing process and standardise shared components. People have complained about how easy it is to scratch the back of the Touch, and many don't like the ugly wi-fi antenna. A case redesign is entirely likely (new colours, anyone?). Certainly, I've found that even with a protective cover, my metal backplate is easily scratched.

Memory upgrade - possible and quite likely. However, the 32GB memory in the iPod touch is 2 x 16GB flash drives, not 1 x 32GB drive. To go up to 64GB, you would need to put 4 x 16GB drives inside the case which would make it bigger and heavier - or have two (expensive) 32GB chips. When teamed up with a case re-design to match the iPhone, this might not be such a crazy idea. However, Flash memory is expensive at the moment, and it would significantly increase the price of a Touch if the memory jumped up. If the 8GB model vanishes, it means that Apple would have two memory options on the Touch (same as all the other models), not three, as it is at present. A memory increase is probably the most likely change, but I still reckon it's not going to happen until well into next year.

Price drop: this is the most likely route for the Touch in the short-term, to help boost sales - especially of the lower end models (16GB). The 8GB Touch will probably vanish from the range (again, as we've all said: why buy an 8GP Touch, when you can get an 8GB iPhone for less - even though you'll pay subscription charges for the phone service in the long run?).

So, I reckon any immediate changes to the Touch will mostly be trivial - ie. case change, a price-drop, or possibly a memory increase.

We've all read that stock of the Touch is being run down at the moment, in line for a re-fresh at some point in the next few months, so we can probably expect some kind of news on the Touch, but don't expect anything over-dramatic in terms of technology. The Touch is a relatively new product, changing it dramatically after such a short period of time on the market is damaging to customer expectation and causes the all-too-familiar "I'll wait for the next update" syndrome we read about on these forums all the time.

One last thing is the possibility of a new type of iPod Touch - ie. a "nano" version. Apple generally pulls something special out of the hat at these annual events (the iPhone, the Touch, Mac Book Air, the Shuffle, the new Nano), so expect something new and dramatic.

I can envisage a smaller version of the Touch with most of the features (music, videos, web, email, maps, iTunes wifi). However, it's difficult to see how Apps could work the same on a smaller screen - but it could open up the App Store to developing scaled-down versions of Apps for the "Touch Nano" or whatever they decide to call it. A "nano Touch" would subsequently give rise to a scaled-down iPhone next year (you'd need to be mad to think Apple are planning to conquer the mobile phone market with a single model that only gets refreshed every 12 months).

So there it is:

iPod Touch: new case, more memory, price.

iPod Touch Nano: a dinky version of the Touch with smaller memory and fewer features.
 
nice reply to all the rumors... anyway still thinking on gps since it is a tiny chip and since they want to standard the production between iphone and ipod touch ( of course, so it can be more profitable ) i dunno... all rumors but... i'm waiting for the next keynote... it should be already next week!!! TOMORROW! hehe
 
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