What to Expect at WWDC: iOS 13, macOS 10.15, watchOS 6 and tvOS 13

[cinq2]

Ever since Snow Leopard (I know, I know, that was a looong time ago) all I've ever wanted from  was a much more powerful tower type computer (MacPro type). The endless Mac OS updates since then haven't improved the Mac experience one bit except to mate the Mac with the iPhone. Some would say, it's been downhill ever since. I certainly don't enjoy it as much that's for sure.

Actually there’ve been some. Gestures (huge), Finder enchantements, Window Management, Tabs, APFS, maybe a few more.
Not too many but there’s no way I could go back to SL and this is true even since Lion.
I agree, it would be better Apple to focus to desctop OS, but still it’s not so bad and probably still better than the competition (Window 10 for sure!)

 

[BuddyTronic]

What do they miss? I don’t find I miss anything either, even iOS 13 can have huge potential to break support for iTunes 12.6.5.3.

Thanks for asking!

Let's see if anyone in Macrumours land can figure I out, and I promise I'll reveal it on Sunday if nobody else mentions it.

I skimmed the article and picked it out immediately - but maybe I think different.

 

[GtrDude]

So the OSˋs will get mainly new clothing and cosmetics again.
Under the hood still heavy weighted and unflexible.

Yeah but who cares...it's got dark mode.
That's Apple for yah. All about the looks.

 

[retta283]

The Reminders app, Screen Time, and iMessage Effects are also new features that are rumored to be coming to the Mac in macOS 10.15.

Reminders coming to Mac? Reminders was added to OS X 7 years ago.

 

[Populus]

Hey Dan, Juli, or whoever made the video about what’s coming on, please let them know that I liked it. It’s a good mix of every leak we have had. Good job MacRumors.

 

[S G]

With macOS 13, I may lose many apps in return for just a few cosmetic changes, and only limited new functionality in Mail. One thing I could get excited about is if the iOS-macOS fusion would bring language-related features such as new languages, dictionaries, and autocorrect. Multilingual support has been dreadful in macOS for years, and typing in an unsupported language is extremely painful if not downright impossible. Adding a custom spelling dictionary to macOS is useless during multilingual usage, as it requires switching to that custom dictionary each time you need to type something in the cognate language. At least, iOS has many more languages to choose from and third-party keyboards to fill the remaining language gaps, and it would be great to see these work in macOS too.

 

[adnbek]

Please please Apple, let the phone app not take over the whole screen when a call comes in. Kinda ridiculous that a phone call can interrupt anything and everything! You could be in the middle of shooting a video and a call will stop it in its tracks!

 

[aaronhead14]

Genuinely, all I want is the new Mac Pro. I’m getting so anxious.

 

[PickUrPoison]

The best thing iOS 13 could have is some sort of watchdog for apps that DRAIN your battery, such as going to bed with a 92% charge and waking up with a dead iPhone. And I mean not because I fell asleep watching Netflix and it played episode after episode all night...I mean nothing going on. Lock it and set it on the night stand. Morning time...dead. Battery usage graph looks like the face of a cliff.

Battery usage by app works for me, does it not indicate your bad app? Maybe the info is lost when the battery dies.

 

[rols]

just give me floating windows on the ipad. these side by side and full-screen apps look dated as hell.

And please make the interface more discoverable. I know I can split screen apps on my iPad but every time I actually want to do it (which is rare I suppose) I have to pull up a webpage and look up how, and then I have to pull it up again to work out how to close them again.

 

[Martius]

Well, I'm still looking forward to this keynote, however I don't expect anything that would surprise me. I think that the Mac Pro is a missed chance, because a lot of pro users that really needed the versatility of a desktop computer already switched to PC. I appreciate they have tried to do something new with the trashcan Mac Pro, but they should have act much quicker when they realized the overall design is not good. This waiting for a profesional desktop computer clearly destroyed the Apple's reputation much more than admitting the design was a mistake.

Just look at current desktop computers. The case design practically haven't change since 90s. And of course knowing Apple it seems that one of the reasons why they have designed the trashcan Mac Pro was to lock down the upgradability.

So I expect they will show a modular system that is gonna be locked down to use just some Apple-approved components, not yet ready (available in 2020) with a $4000–5000 price tag.

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What I would love to see is an iPad-focused iOS release. I would love to use iPad in my webdevelopment workflow but without the mouse support and better filesystem, I just can't use it for anything related to my work. It's really a shame I don't see any reason why I should buy iPad Pro over the current iPad Air. I bought iPad Pro 9.7 because of the Apple Pencil and keyboard support, but iPad Air also supports it now. Ok, current iPad Pro is a nice design, has incredible specs, but it can't do much more than the base iPad, which is like: whaat?! So I hope it will change with this release.

 

[Lone Deranger]

Any chance Scott Forstall will be on stage announcing the return of user interfaces that are easy to use, approachable, friendly and fun?

I would welcome that more than a Mac Pro reveal.

 

[Avenged110]

Any chance Scott Forstall will be on stage announcing the return of user interfaces that are easy to use, approachable, friendly and fun?

Only in my dreams. #iOS6ForLife

 

[Analog Kid]

I like that you can use iPad as an external display from Macbook.
I know that there are apps that do that, but it is nice to have it native.

Yeah, Duet has been unnecessarily buggy over the past year or so. I still use it frequently, but it's finicky-- drops connection periodically, stops updating, can't seem to ever get the resolution right, won't let me unlock with Apple Watch, etc...

The feature I'd been asking them for that they never seemed to care to implement was to allow the driver to run without a user logged in. I have some headless Mac Mini's that I'd love to just plug my iPad into as a display, but Duet won't support it.

This is something that just makes more sense as at the system level.

 

[dguisinger]

I want to see the Mac Pro - not because I'm going to buy one, I have both a 2018 MBP and a 2018 MB Air (because the MBP keyboard died and i needed a spare, **argg**)

But I need to see what their commitment to their platform is (most likely very little). I'm most likely done buying a mac, all the software I use is available on multiple platforms. They keep destroying what reputation they have left in the computer arena with gimmicks like more emojis and running mobile apps on the desktop, while producing defective designs and refusing to do an upgrade to a computer for 6 years. Give me a break, they are the richest company in the world. THey can afford a couple extra engineers to update a system and produce a new motherboard. All of their competitors have far less money and release 10x as many models every year.

 

[Lone Deranger]

"iPad as an external display" could be a quite exciting if it is done right. It could let Apple challenge Wacom directly if it supported things like zBrush, photoshop, substance painter, etc.

I would love a 24-30" (or even a 40"+ one actually) iPad for stuff like painting, sculpting, DCC, etc. Like a big canvas on an easel essentially. One you can stand away from to observe your work easily, not just be hunched over like an ergonomic barbarian.

Wacom's Cintiqs are okay I guess, but they look and feel just utilitarian. They work, but that's just about it. Just can't bring myself to pull the trigger for what I'm getting from Wacom.
I would love Apple to have a go at making one, with their style and finish and their integration with the OS. Wacom drivers are terrible.

 

[myosh]

Sadly, Mojave will be the last version of MacOS I will be installing on my 2010 MacPro because of the loss of 32-bit app support.

I'm still using Dreamweaver CS6 to update and modify websites I maintain and while Adobe has updated some CS6 apps like Photoshop and Illustrator to 64-bit, Dreamweaver sadly was not. Upgrading to CC is off the table because I'm what some have called a "Pro-sumer". I do not generate any income from the sites I maintain so I can't justify the monthly subscription cost. Besides, I find the idea of software-as-a-service (i.e the subscription model) to be one of the worst concepts in recent history.

 

[humble turnip]

If iTunes is going, how will older iOS devices (like ios 4) sync with Mac? Will they have to be thrown away?

 

[inkswamp]

Really wish Apple would consider adding per-app volume settings. Really need some apps to be louder and others (namely, apps that suddenly hit you with an obnoxious ad video) to be set quieter. One of the most tiresome things about iOS is the constant clicking of the volume buttons to make sure whatever app you're in is set right. There's no reason for that. I should be able to set my volume for voicemail on speaker separately from Words With Friends.

 

[klky]

Whatever ends up replacing iTunes, for the love of God, please allow it to minimize when double-clicking the title bar.

 

[ka-spot]

I expect nothing. well, maybe... mute the fat guy? .. no! .. replace the fat guy.

 

[bn-7bc]

A new volume bar is the second biggest feature of iOS?

macOS is dropping support for 32-bit apps and supporting iOS apps, what a wonderful trade

Why does Apple even bother making high performance CPUs when it's obvious they're on a mission to destroy productivity. Do they get some kind of tax break for it?

How manyy 32 bit only apps are still being actively parched?
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The lack of 32 bit on osx is going to keep me on 10.14 for a long time. Unfortunately for me, some apps I use for RAD will never be getting updated.

Well considering then software you develop will haee a lot fewer potential costumers once people start moving to 10.15, maybe it is time to look for new tools, but why am I saying this you have probably thought about this a great deal all-ready
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I'm looking forward to seeing what it is, but I suspect people are going to find out that it isn't what they want. It'll be expensive, for sure, and not targeted at gamers. People will fixate on the price of the 30 core fusion simulator version and start complaining immediately and the discussion from there will slowly dissolve into who deserves to be called a "pro".

Well that one is easy to resolve a PROfessional is an individual the derives a large part of her/his income from a particular activity, or am I missing something here = (I'm not truing to turn this thread into a discussion about this subject just want to check if my definition is totally flawed.

 

[Analog Kid]

Well that one is easy to resolve a PROfessional is an individual the derives a large part of her/his income from a particular activity

You would think it was that simple, but this is Mac Rumors, and nobody's going to let a dictionary stop them from trying to justify their complaints...

 

[Lone Deranger]

The same Scott Forstall who was behind the over-promised and under-delivered release of Apple Maps and Siri? Nope, that will never happen.

The same Apple Maps and Siri that are still woefully inferior to Google Maps and Alexa after 7 years of different leadership? Yeah lets pick a scapegoat.

 

[clauzzz203]

Any chance Scott Forstall will be on stage announcing the return of user interfaces that are easy to use, approachable, friendly and fun?

Scott would be so much better. Was a mistake to kick him out
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This may look like a long list of items but its actually quite boring and underwhelming. I really hope Apple has more up its sleeve that hasn't been rumored..... But based on their recent history I am not holding my breath to be honest.....

They will do the minimum possible that can be done with 10 developers to justify keeping thousands employed and filling up the shareholders pockets