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I know haters gonna hate, but personally I can't wait to upgrade from my 6 to a 7+. For those of us who prefer the 'S' devices (my 6 is my first non-S iPhone), the 7 is going to be like a 6SS, an absolute under-the-hood monster. Also, I take a lot of pictures with my phone, and the dual-lens setup in Apple's hands should yield impressive results. Combine this with the possibility of a water-resistant deep blue or black iPhone, and I am quite excited indeed. Just please don't raise the price, Apple!!

I've got a 6 Plus right now, but frankly I wouldn't know why I would want to upgrade. And I'm an iOS developer for crying out loud! This 6 Plus is fast, has optical image stabilisation and a big screen. What would the dual-lens do? Perhaps take better indoor pictures/videos? But would that be enough reason for you to buy a new phone?

Nice, all of the top comments are bashing Apple, what a surprise!

So true. They create a very negative atmosphere. What I don't understand about these haters is: what are they doing here except ruining their own life with complaining?
 
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1. Apple wants a lot of people. I doubt it will mind losing some Intel Luddites.

2. We don't know how powerful a laptop or desktop ARM chip by Apple might be.

3. Steve said that to make great products, Apple needed to own the silicon.

4. We've seen apps such as Pages, Numbers, etc be rewritten to be iOS-like.

5. We've seen Apple push the iPad/iOS platform as the only computer a consumer will need.

I think everything points to Apple moving away from Intel. Greater economy, greater control, one OS, one set of applications, one App Store for users and developers, etc, etc, etc. It all makes good business sense. It all makes for a better user experience. Millions of people own iPhones and iPads without owning Macs. Make ARM-based Macs more affordable by not having to pay for Intel chips, and Apple can drive a stake through the heart of Windows and the Intel years.
People who use computers for their livelihood aren't luddites.

When Apple can make ARM processors which are more powerful than the current chips in the top end Mac Book Pro, iMac and Mac Pro then it's probably time to look at changing but there's no indication they are at that level just yet. You can't really use a minority of iPad users using keyboards as a justification to move the whole Mac line to iOS level hardware.
 
Like bluetooth? We already have those.
Just like we already had styluses before the release of the Apple Pencil. Today, I can't see myself using any other stylus with my iPad Pro.

It's not about what technology is already out there that's important. It's about how Apple implements it in a manner which gives us the best user experience possible.

I am looking forward to seeing Apple implement Bluetooth in a manner with their headphones that other companies cannot, and in the process, work around the many drawbacks and limitations that people keep saying are holding Bluetooth headphones back.

Maybe I will be wrong and Apple will simply release normal Bluetooth headphones, but Apple certainly has the capabilities to reinvent the headphones in that aspect.
 
Friends at a video production company are also buying old Mac Pros and upgrade them. Outperforms a maxed out new Mac Pro and costs significantly less.
Nothing gives you a feeling of pride like popping a couple of 3.46GHz Xeons, an SSD RAID, a bunch of RAM, a USB 3 card, a dozen Terabytes of online storage, and a cutting edge GPU into a 2010 MacPro for a fraction of the cost of a nMP, and then having it effortlessly chew up big jobs.

Sadly, they won't last forever, but I have a couple of spares stashed away.
 
Everything on your list is standard electronic advancement, as every other OEM does with their products every year. Faster, more efficient, better cameras etc etc etc. Nothing rumoured about the iP7 is exciting, it's all iterative and in some cases (removing useful features) negative. Plenty of phones are also waterproof, they all still have the 3.5mm jack socket too so it's not a valid reason for removal.

You can keep saying that people will buy in the 100's of millions - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that, what many of those with "Rose gold" tinted glasses will miss is that the non-fanboy, the people who bought into Apple because of how great, how beautiful and how well their products worked (people like me) are gradually getting more disillusioned with the less impressive design, the more convoluted and buggy software, the lack of advancement while other companies are offering ever more and ever better alternatives. As people like me start to move away we stop recommending Apple wholeheartedly to our friends and families, it'll take time but Apple do look to be declining - you think it can't happen but then many a massive company made the mistake of getting complacent in the past too...

The ever increasing number of people like me moaning about Apple here (you must see it) don't hate Apple, we like Apple, we want to stay with Apple, but we won't mindlessly buy products forever if it looks like Apple themselves aren't even trying any more.
And when did Apple stop being Apple, around what time?
 
Apple is on the decline. Maybe someday they will come out with new technology that everyone is excited for. That day will not be on the 7th.
Yeah if only they could be like Samsung recalling phones for exploding batteries. :D
 
I stopped watching these live. They take too much time to announce too little. I really don't want to see another star of the music industry totally muff a presentation. A couple of paragraph recap when it is over gives me the information I need and I don't lose an hour of development time.

I'm so excited to see their new set of emojis. Presented by female "engineers" to brag about "diversity".
 
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Am I the only one not liking the idea of removing headphone jack?

This will cause such an inconvinience with switching. I mean the whole industry will have to have a version for "just Apple devices".

Not everything wireless yet, and I do not like apple's current headphones either way.


Will be disappointed if they really do get rid of the jack. But I don't think that will happen because we would already see some leaks in new headphones showing up.
 
People who use computers for their livelihood aren't luddites.

When Apple can make ARM processors which are more powerful than the current chips in the top end Mac Book Pro, iMac and Mac Pro then it's probably time to look at changing but there's no indication they are at that level just yet. You can't really use a minority of iPad users using keyboards as a justification to move the whole Mac line to iOS level hardware.

I didn't say people who use computers for their living are Luddites. I said people who are unwilling to embrace change are Luddites. A lot of people make their livings using ARM-based devices right now. If ARM is the future of computing, anyone who holds on to Intel and the past will be left behind. A big IF, of course, but all the indications are that we are heading to (or are already in the start of) a post-Intel era. Even Intel is moving to fabricate ARM chips because it doesn't have sufficient demand for its own chips.

We don't know what Apple can produce for ARM-based laptops and desktops. It has only released chips suitable for iOS devices. That doesn't mean it can't fabricate a laptop or desktop chip.

Why do people doubt what Apple can do, and think it will lag behind Intel? If/when Apple produces a car, do we think it will lag behind Mercedes and BMW? I don't. I expect an Apple car to be right up there with the best. And I think an Apple laptop chip will be right up there as well.

Doubters said Apple couldn't make a competitive mobile phone. People said that netbooks would never be replaced by tablet devices. Bewildering that people still doubt what Apple can do with ARM, especially when Apple has clearly been prioritising ARM devices and the iOS platform for years.
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Yeah if only they could be like Samsung recalling phones for exploding batteries. :D

Samsung phones do come with a 3.5mm chimney. :p
 
Am I the only one not liking the idea of removing headphone jack?

This will cause such an inconvinience with switching. I mean the whole industry will have to have a version for "just Apple devices".

Not everything wireless yet, and I do not like apple's current headphones either way.


Will be disappointed if they really do get rid of the jack. But I don't think that will happen because we would already see some leaks in new headphones showing up.
Are you kidding? Read all the posts, you are definitely not the only one.
 
I didn't say people who use computers for their living are Luddites. I said people who are unwilling to embrace change are Luddites. A lot of people make their livings using ARM-based devices right now. If ARM is the future of computing, anyone who holds on to Intel and the past will be left behind. A big IF, of course, but all the indications are that we are heading to (or are already in the start of) a post-Intel era. Even Intel is moving to fabricate ARM chips because it doesn't have sufficient demand for its own chips.

The main difference between RISC (ARM) and CISC (x86) is frontend, the frontend's power consumption is more or less independent of core count or computing power. x86's frontend is way more complex and needs like 4 times the power of ARM.
On low-power CPUs like Intel's Atom/Celeron/Pentium and so on, the frontend can be responsible for about one third the power consumption of the entire chip. If we are looking at high performance computing with TDP > 100W per CPU, some 3W for x86 frontend become irrelevant.
 
The only thing I want from Apple is an iPad Pro is, or iOS pro or PadOS , which can bridge the gap a little between iOS and Macos. Not just a blown up iPhone OS with split screen and pip. But...
A simple filemanagement system and a new Smart Keyboard with some kind of trackpad. That is all.

And an iPhone 7 with all the rumored specs, but with a slightly higher res screen and true tone display.
 
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Yeah if only they could be like Samsung recalling phones for exploding batteries. :D

You mean, being like Samsung and instantly publicly responding to a flaw found in a tiny percentage of products, doing a full recall and sending out new phones/swapping out current phones for new ones.

Or be like Apple, deny when asked and in stores that various faults exist, until finally so many people find the same flaw it can't be dismissed and a couple of people do a class action law suit, by which time it's so obvious Apple will lose the case, and THEN they only reluctantly start to do something about it, still probably denying they are at fault.?

I know which company I'd prefer in this case.
 
Iterative update to the phones, which is to be expected with an already mature product.

I suspect the removal of the headphone jack will be met with disapproval (and can understand why, existing high end headphones will be rendered old tech overnight), but after a year it will seem perfectly acceptable and will come across as Apple blazing the trail again (such as when they removed the floppy drive from Macs). I would imagine other manufacturers are also looking at doing this with their phones in the foreseeable future. Water resistance is greatly appreciated, no more worrying about using a phone when caught in the rain!

I just wish they would make the rear of the shell flush with the camera mount - it looks so ugly jutting out, and I can't imagine anyone will complain about their phone being an extra half millimetre thicker. And it makes the phone sit wonky when placed on a flat surface, which just looks weird. And guess what, the extra thickness enables a bigger battery to be fitted. How many people have complained their iPhone could do with greater battery capacity?

Just my two cents :)
 
Whatever they do, if it doesn't explode or catch fire they have one up on the competition.
 
Another rumor is coming out that Apple has decided to stay with existing colors choices and will add the new-old Space Black in the 2017 iPhone glass model! Oh! No! LOL!
 
Sadly the only thing I'm really looking forward to is TV OS. Although knowing them they'll do something to break the UI - every Apple software update in the last 3 years has made things worse, not better. But the Single Sign On will be a dream for me. I hate having to manually reactive 20 TV Apps every freaking month.
 
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