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This will come off as trolling, but I am completely serious. As a mac user from the late 80's onward, I have been extremely disappointed with Apple's current course.
I think its time to finally come to terms with the fact that Apple, under its incompetent CEO, has completely abandoned its desktop/professional desktop customers.
We won't see any more mac pros, at least not any that can come anywhere near as upgradable or as easy to configure as a hackintosh.
The next macbook pros will have plenty of iOS wanna-be gee-gaws, but no real power or functionality innovations.
Every studio I've worked in (I'm a web graphics monkey) has been a mac studio and every year I see our and other offices having to resurrect older machines just to stay in business. New machines are still priced as if it was still 1996 with no regard to the customer or actual cost of production. It breaks my heart to see this once great manufacturer become no more than a bling-bling maker of mediator toys that are outstripped by their competitors.
 
It makes me think Apple going forward to going to try and make the iPhone completely waterproof and not just water resistant.
It's possible that Apple makes their phone waterproof but stops short of claiming it is, because an absolute is a very risky term to use when it comes to product liabilities.

By insisting that it is merely (very) water resistant, we still get a waterproof phone, but if anything happens to it, you can't say that it's not waterproof or blame Apple for it.
 
Its not just CPU/GPU... its features as well...

For the past couple of years, its all just been small bumps and additions. Still a big deal, but noting like then
Hardware may have peaked, but user experience never will.

With the best specs, you still get smartphones which stutter and freeze and require a reboot at least once a day.

The best specs don't guarantee me timely software updates or the latest OS.

There are still a lot of things that pure specs alone can't achieve.

The focus now will be on non-spec enhancements such as true-tone and force touch, and I think this is where Apple is uniquely positioned to shine. They control the hardware and software and have the resources to invest in such R&D, which is often harder to develop and refine compared to simply increasing the amount of ram or storage in a device.

And because Apple has the resources for this, they will also be able to continue charging a premium for their devices, and you can see how this breeds a virtuous, self-sustaining cycle.
 
I have several watches, all solar powered. Watch batteries cost a fortune, so why buy a watch with a battery? I'm really surprised that, with all the resources at their disposal, Apple haven't developed solar cell technology to at least extend the battery life of their phones and watches.

I'd be really happy to put up with an iPhone 1mm thicker, with no lens protrusion, if it allowed incorporation of solar cell technology.

Have to keep it on the table in meetings though, rather than in my pocket . . .

The watch uses way too much power for that.
You could replenish it with a solar array on your backpack, but the watch itself is way too small for solar to be useful.
 
Hardware may have peaked, but user experience never will.

With the best specs, you still get smartphones which stutter and freeze and require a reboot at least once a day.

The best specs don't guarantee me timely software updates or the latest OS.

There are still a lot of things that pure specs alone can't achieve.

The focus now will be on non-spec enhancements such as true-tone and force touch, and I think this is where Apple is uniquely positioned to shine. They control the hardware and software and have the resources to invest in such R&D, which is often harder to develop and refine compared to simply increasing the amount of ram or storage in a device.

And because Apple has the resources for this, they will also be able to continue charging a premium for their devices, and you can see how this breeds a virtuous, self-sustaining cycle.

In which case apple needs to sort out its software release cycle, the current one is not working, markerting is dictating annual software updates and development cannot meet such timelines, hence we got buggy software . Easy fix , but seems apple wants to release new MacOS and iOS each year to sell hardware, its not putting the customer first.
 
You are correct. The problem is that the smartphone peaked a few years back, we have reached the point where they are no longer constrained by CPU/GPU for the majority of the users.

That's so wrong. How could anyone who's a fan of tech say this? CPU/GPU performance is what drives new features/capabilities. You can NEVER have too much processor power.

I remember people saying at one time that home users didn't need to edit photos, video or similar on their home PC. Imagine if everyone thought that way and never bothered to push the envelope in what a processor could do?

The very reason we can enjoy such a wide variety of tech today is because of all the people who don't sit around thinking "it's good enough".
 
For a company the size of Apple, there is really little coming out. I hope their profits will sink and will pressure them to introduce real new stuff. As profits is their driving motivator the last couple of years, you can only hope it's going down.

Thank you Apple for turning your back to the moviemaking and graphic industry. At least you could tell us that we're not interesting for you anymore.
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Hardware may have peaked, but user experience never will.

With the best specs, you still get smartphones which stutter and freeze and require a reboot at least once a day.

The best specs don't guarantee me timely software updates or the latest OS.

There are still a lot of things that pure specs alone can't achieve.

The focus now will be on non-spec enhancements such as true-tone and force touch, and I think this is where Apple is uniquely positioned to shine. They control the hardware and software and have the resources to invest in such R&D, which is often harder to develop and refine compared to simply increasing the amount of ram or storage in a device.

And because Apple has the resources for this, they will also be able to continue charging a premium for their devices, and you can see how this breeds a virtuous, self-sustaining cycle.

That was true a couple of years ago. Competition has come a long way since then and surpassed Apple. You've to look at China for that where all the tech innovations take place these days. Apple today is solely betting on its brand name. That's one of the reasons they've hired Angela Ahrends. To transform it in the Gucci and Prada in tech. Their phones and computers are good. But gone are the days they were ahead of the pack. People start to realize and even the Galaxy 7 edge is cheaper over here then the iPhone 6s Plus. Can't blame the people switching for that. And they do in droves.

The Apple ecosystem might be good. But as most go mobile first, you won't see the benefit of it unless you go all Apple. So for most people ( the majority (90+%) who uses Windows) you don't see those benefits). Apple was cool and hip among youngsters a couple of years ago. But lost that to Samsung and others.

Maybe it's different in the USA. But here in the Netherlands Apple has lost that image and has only itself to blame.

Also their software like Siri, maps can't match what Google has to offer and the gap gets wider each day. AppleTV over here is overpriced and useless since it doesn't support Siri. All smarttv's sold here come with android installed, giving you the basics and connections with android related gear.

I've lost the hope Apple is able to compete. Since the pace of innovation from competitors is quadruple in speed and decent priced.

Thank you Apple by focusing on profits instead of consumers. I don't think we'll see lines for the Apple Store, like it used to be, with the to be introduced iPhone 7.

I can hear Tim Cook saying that Apple isn't about market share but about delivering the best experience and best products. That's a lie! Because they aren't the best experience and best product anymore.
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This will come off as trolling, but I am completely serious. As a mac user from the late 80's onward, I have been extremely disappointed with Apple's current course.
I think its time to finally come to terms with the fact that Apple, under its incompetent CEO, has completely abandoned its desktop/professional desktop customers.
We won't see any more mac pros, at least not any that can come anywhere near as upgradable or as easy to configure as a hackintosh.
The next macbook pros will have plenty of iOS wanna-be gee-gaws, but no real power or functionality innovations.
Every studio I've worked in (I'm a web graphics monkey) has been a mac studio and every year I see our and other offices having to resurrect older machines just to stay in business. New machines are still priced as if it was still 1996 with no regard to the customer or actual cost of production. It breaks my heart to see this once great manufacturer become no more than a bling-bling maker of mediator toys that are outstripped by their competitors.

I totally agree with you. Apple turned their back on their most devoted customers from the past. Their offerings are outdated tech with an exorbitant high price tag. Any other computer company would go out of business acting like Apple does. All I can hope that their profits will sink so they've to focus on the market again.

It's a shame of what Apple has become. Like you, it breaks my heart. We can only hope the market forces them to correct this and I'm very confident it will. I can only speak for the Netherlands where I live, but over here Apple has lost its cool.
 
Macbook Air refresh on Sept 7th (a definite maybe). Based on suitable lower power Intel Kaby Lake CPUs shipping now.

Kaby Lake for rMBP wont ship till Jan / Feb 2017.
 
This will come off as trolling, but I am completely serious. As a mac user from the late 80's onward, I have been extremely disappointed with Apple's current course.
I think its time to finally come to terms with the fact that Apple, under its incompetent CEO, has completely abandoned its desktop/professional desktop customers.
We won't see any more mac pros, at least not any that can come anywhere near as upgradable or as easy to configure as a hackintosh.
The next macbook pros will have plenty of iOS wanna-be gee-gaws, but no real power or functionality innovations.
Every studio I've worked in (I'm a web graphics monkey) has been a mac studio and every year I see our and other offices having to resurrect older machines just to stay in business. New machines are still priced as if it was still 1996 with no regard to the customer or actual cost of production. It breaks my heart to see this once great manufacturer become no more than a bling-bling maker of mediator toys that are outstripped by their competitors.
Oh and by the way, it's not trolling. It's the sad reality of today.
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Macbook Air refresh on Sept 7th (a definite maybe). Based on suitable lower power Intel Kaby Lake CPUs shipping now.

Kaby Lake for rMBP wont ship till Jan / Feb 2017.
They good at least offering all their iMacs with SSD and retina displays. There is so much more they could do without a cpu refresh to justify their price tags.
 
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Cook's statement: Apple isn't about market share but delivering the best experience and products is a lie.

If that what he mentioned was true he wouldn't deliver iMacs with soldered ram and 5400 rpm drives and other outdated tech for the same price today as it was years ago.

Apple of today is about about squeezing the most profits out of outdated products. If they aren't able to compete or interested in their computer business anymore, they should license their OS to others so their customers won't suffer.

They're losing in education, movie- graphic industry for that reason. Go Microsoft with your surface, go Google with your chrome Books! Go Samsung with your state of the art galaxy line! Go Huawei and Xaomi! Put pressure on Apple to make great products again for a justified price! Apple won't listen to their customers so you're my only hope.
 
In which case apple needs to sort out its software release cycle, the current one is not working, markerting is dictating annual software updates and development cannot meet such timelines, hence we got buggy software . Easy fix , but seems apple wants to release new MacOS and iOS each year to sell hardware, its not putting the customer first.
I have been very impressed with iOS 10 on my 5s so far. Performance is great and feels like it has been given second life.

This might be the year Apple finally manages to iron out the kinks and problems that crept back in when they revamped iOS 7. Moving forward, I hope we can see new features without any of the bugs or slowdowns which tend to accompany such annual software updates.
 
I have been very impressed with iOS 10 on my 5s so far. Performance is great and feels like it has been given second life.

This might be the year Apple finally manages to iron out the kinks and problems that crept back in when they revamped iOS 7. Moving forward, I hope we can see new features without any of the bugs or slowdowns which tend to accompany such annual software updates.

Interesting. I have not tried iOS 10, so will judge when it's released. Hope they finally got the development roadmap under control
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That's so wrong. How could anyone who's a fan of tech say this? CPU/GPU performance is what drives new features/capabilities. You can NEVER have too much processor power.

I remember people saying at one time that home users didn't need to edit photos, video or similar on their home PC. Imagine if everyone thought that way and never bothered to push the envelope in what a processor could do?

The very reason we can enjoy such a wide variety of tech today is because of all the people who don't sit around thinking "it's good enough".

Depends, when did you get your first computer?

Ive been into gaming my whole life, and when you have gone from seeing your machine grind to a halt running a virus scanning software to......being amazed how installing a sound blaster card has just revolutionanised your gaming....or having to upgrade CPUs to run games......or having to upgrade GPUs every generation to again meet the requirements not to get top graphics, but to run games.....trust me we have reached a state where a PC or Mac bought in 2016 can accomplish nearly every task for the average user without being CPU/GPU constrained.

See the problem happened.....when hardware outpaced software.....to this day my overclocked 5.1GHZ 6 core CPU is not fully utilised for most applications....when software utilises all cores on our CPUs....yeah you got a point. Ive got a gaming PC that was build in 2013.....unheard of that it would still kick ass in 2016....and given I don't game in 4K still maxing games out.....that is why I made that statement...

For specialised applications we have damn impressive CPUs / GPUs these days, completely wasted on the average user . Fact is, SSD was the game changer for the average consumer.
 
Cook's statement: Apple isn't about market share but delivering the best experience and products is a lie.

If that what he mentioned was true he wouldn't deliver iMacs with soldered ram and 5400 rpm drives and other outdated tech for the same price today as it was years ago.

Apple of today is about about squeezing the most profits out of outdated products. If they aren't able to compete or interested in their computer business anymore, they should license their OS to others so their customers won't suffer.

They're losing in education, movie- graphic industry for that reason. Go Microsoft with your surface, go Google with your chrome Books! Go Samsung with your state of the art galaxy line! Go Huawei and Xaomi! Put pressure on Apple to make great products again for a justified price! Apple won't listen to their customers so you're my only hope.

I agree but it's been discussed before. The iphone blurred the lines with Apple. Once a premium company with a niche of marketshare they suddenly hit a magic money machine in the form of carrier subs. They could price their phones in reach of most consumers (with carriers making up the difference) and make killer profits.

A better CEO would have produced even better numbers since the iphone. When you have the iphone coupled with MS's windows 8 mess, there's no excuse not to elevate Macs much more than they did. But even that combo didn't really put much of a dent in the market. The problem? Apple is a premium company. Premium companies that demand huge margins do NOT make for marketshare leaders. They are more niche.

What's a premium company like Apple to do? IMO, they need to resist focusing on the general "typical consumer." People on here love to justify Apple's decisions on here by saying "sorry, most people don't care about that..therefore you should accept it." I think that is wrong. It starts down the wrong path. Before, Apple focused on its core enthusiasts. Charge what you want Apple, but keep the tech bleeding edge. That's what the enthusiasts want. The "coolness" will trickle down to the masses.

The typical consumer doesn't care about OS. They don't even know what OS they're using most of the time. They won't get the full Apple experience because Macs are often out of reach for them. Only the idevices are in their range because carriers help sub or finance them. You can't focus on these guys or your product isn't going to be premium anymore. Ironically, by focusing on the masses, you lose the coolness and they won't buy into it.

More problems happened when Apple said screw google maps and tried to do their own Maps. Terrible. How can you charge premium prices if your services suck worse than the company handing out its OS for free? Siri uses bing..terrible. It's crippled before it starts. I don't even bother with it other than to set alarms or do strictly on device stuff.

You can't be a premium company and try to act like a cost cutter while letting your services suffer. I would double down on correcting what isn't working that well. Put the premium back into Apple. The overall experience is still the best IMO by far. Craig Federighi is the most Jobs like out of the bunch. I'd elevate him even more and let him focus on exciting the enthusiasts, bloggers, app devs, tech media. Give nods to the enthusiasts like us and release a 17" MBP or a special edition OLED 13" MPB with the works along with a graphics amplifier. Forget whether it'll be a huge margin winner. Think of it as branding or marketing costs. They sit on a huge pile of profits that don't go reinvested anyways...
 
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I also have a 6 Plus and have been very happy with it for the last two years.

I could keep on going with it with no problems, but when I look at what I'd be getting if I was to upgrade:
  • 3D Touch
  • Live Photos
  • 4K video recording
  • Faster Touch ID
  • Noticeable speed improvements.
Adding in camera improvements and whatever else is new in the iPhone 7, it suddenly becomes a pretty compelling upgrade...

6 Plus here has well. My biggest gripe is when switching apps, they nearly almost always have to refresh. I'd assume this is a RAM issue, so if the 7 Plus has triple the RAM, that becomes a compelling upgrade.

I'm still not sure I'm sold on the 5.5" size, though. It's nice, but I can't keep my phone in my pocket as much, and Apple hasn't done much to take advantage of the larger size (like split screen).
 
Macbook Air refresh on Sept 7th (a definite maybe). Based on suitable lower power Intel Kaby Lake CPUs shipping now.

Kaby Lake for rMBP wont ship till Jan / Feb 2017.

I think this is likely for one reason, the Air is their entry level computer and they will keep it around probably as long as the Mid-2012 MBP after the retina MBP was introduced.

As such, it will be the one Mac they can update now, that they can show alongside the new iPhone without a headphone jack, to which they have first added a Lightning port for compatibility of Lightning headphones across their entire product line. It will also have updated wireless hardware so it's fully compatible with their new wireless codecs.

This will signal to developers that they can expect full compatibility across Apple's entire product line with Lightning and BT 5 or whatever Apple introduces. The rMB will likely be updated along with the MBP when announced in October, along with the iMac, Mac mini & MacPro.
 
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I think this is likely for one reason, the Air is their entry level computer and they will keep it around probably as long as the Mid-2012 MBP after the retina MBP was introduced.

As such, it will be the one Mac they can update now, that they can show alongside the new iPhone without a headphone jack, to which they have first added a Lightning port for compatibility of Lightning headphones across their entire product line. It will also have updated wireless hardware so it's fully compatible with their new wireless codecs.

This will signal to developers that they can expect full compatibility across Apple's entire product line with Lightning and BT 5 or whatever Apple introduces. The rMB will likely be updated along with the MBP when announced in October, along with the iMac, Mac mini & MacPro.
What bothers me the most is that they haven't done a thing to make it any better or up to date. I'm not talking about the processor (although competitors didn't have problems updating them to today's standards). I'm talking about more ram, bigger SSD, better ports, better screens.
We all know that tech bought today you can get half the price next year. So they could even adjust the price.
This all didn't happen and is more proof to me that Apple doesn't care about their customers. They care about squeezing and milking as much of a profit it can out of their aging products. If I was Tim Cook I really would feel ashamed. Such arrogance will be their downturn.
 
Depends, when did you get your first computer?

Ive been into gaming my whole life, and when you have gone from seeing your machine grind to a halt running a virus scanning software to......being amazed how installing a sound blaster card has just revolutionanised your gaming....or having to upgrade CPUs to run games......or having to upgrade GPUs every generation to again meet the requirements not to get top graphics, but to run games.....trust me we have reached a state where a PC or Mac bought in 2016 can accomplish nearly every task for the average user without being CPU/GPU constrained.

See the problem happened.....when hardware outpaced software.....to this day my overclocked 5.1GHZ 6 core CPU is not fully utilised for most applications....when software utilises all cores on our CPUs....yeah you got a point. Ive got a gaming PC that was build in 2013.....unheard of that it would still kick ass in 2016....and given I don't game in 4K still maxing games out.....that is why I made that statement...

For specialised applications we have damn impressive CPUs / GPUs these days, completely wasted on the average user . Fact is, SSD was the game changer for the average consumer.

My first computer was an Altair followed by a TRS-80 (actually my dad had the Altair but I played with it).

Your comment said smartphones had peaked. So why are you talking about desktop PCs? Smartphones still have a long way to go in terms of how much power can be packed into them.

Apple realizes this as evidenced by their vastly superior ARM processors. They're not stupid enough to let the marketers tell the engineers they need 8 core CPUs when there's no software than can utilize them on a smartphone and they're only good for benchmark scores or bragging rights.

Which brings up an interesting point about Samsung. I guarantee you Samsungs processor engineers know full well a smaller number of high performance cores would be better than 8 cores that never get utilized. It must be infuriating to them to be told to make mega-core processors instead of letting them work on designing the best cores possible.

But I understand what they're going through. I've worked on projects where I wanted to implement the better solution, but was told not to for numerous reasons (cost, to keep a release schedule, because some other "visible" aspect is more important and so on). I'm just glad Apples processor engineers are being allowed to push the envelope.

Now imagine Apple decides to make an ARM based MacBook Air. They already have the superior cores. A quad core A10/11 would have a significant amount of power. What's Samsungs answer to this going to be? Start to make 16 core processors? Apple was very smart to stay with 2 cores and invest into making those cores more powerful. The A10 will be interesting.


Edited: Forgot one more thing. Apple is the first and only mobile vendor to use NVMe for their storage (something I've seen brought up but rarely discussed here). Samsung is using UFS, which has its roots in digital cameras and is inferior to NVMe. This is clearly overkill for many, but I can't see Apple implementing it without planning on making full use of it later on. It's clear to me Apple thinks there's a benefit to having insanely fast processing in a phone. Now I want to see what gets done with it.
 
I expect redundancy, people defending why they're purchasing said redundancy, and then funny stories about people purchasing said redundancy.
 
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