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Wow.. after months of speculation and hundreds of people's predictions we've gone to that place now?

Seems to me that someone's been smoking too many iSpliffs.

Hah hah.

Fact is though, that a 'refresh' is not going to be innovative. It'll have faster graphics, use a bit less power, be a bit quicker and have USB-3. That's hardly innovative. iMac style machines are pouring onto the market too, that for Joe user may look much the same as an iMac except for price differences and the brand.

In the notebook arena, Apple have been highly innovative. Solid chassis; top battery life; high speed; compact designs and providing next year's (or the year after next year form factor solution) right now. In the phone arena - so too highly innovative. So too the Pad arena.

Conservatives here say that the delay in the iMac is due to Intel, and due to screen card supply issues.

Both issues are ones that Apple would have been aware of a great deal of time ago.

So ... for me the question is, do Apple want to be innovative? Their mojo - their whole history - shouts innovative to me.

And another thing. If this iMac is going to be a conservative update, then surely Apple would have announced it along with the highly innovative macbook pros, as they did the Powermac's very minor change.

A singular iMac announcement would be required for something innovative and worth talking about IMO. Updating an iMac to the Macbook Pro's architecture with a bigger screen card is hardly something to shout about. Perhaps Retina will be, but I hope that the Apple skunk works still regard the desktop as something worth physically innovating.
 
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Hah hah.

Fact is though, that a 'refresh' is not going to be innovative. It'll have faster graphics, use a bit less power, be a bit quicker and have USB-3. That's hardly innovative. iMac style machines are pouring onto the market too, that for Joe user may look much the same as an iMac except for price differences and the brand.

In the notebook arena, Apple have been highly innovative. Solid chassis; top battery life; high speed; compact designs and providing next year's (or the year after next year form factor solution) right now. In the phone arena - so too highly innovative. So too the Pad arena.

Conservatives here say that the delay in the iMac is due to Intel, and due to screen card supply issues.

Both issues are ones that Apple would have been aware of a great deal of time ago.

So ... for me the question is, do Apple want to be innovative? Their mojo - their whole history - shouts innovative to me.

And another thing. If this iMac is going to be a conservative update, then surely Apple would have announced it along with the highly innovative macbook pros, as they did the Powermac's very minor change.

A singular iMac announcement would be required for something innovative and worth talking about IMO. Updating an iMac to the Macbook Pro's architecture with a bigger screen card is hardly something to shout about. Perhaps Retina will be, but I hope that the Apple skunk works still regard the desktop as something worth physically innovating.

Not every update can be innovative, it's just not possible to maintain that kind of momentum. Also, from a sales point of view a company very rarely releases so many individual features/innovations in a single release even if it's technically possible - where would they go on the next update.

My money is on a standard update for 2012 (GPU, CPU, USB 3, some configuration tweaks with regards to RAM and SSD). I personally think 2013 will be the year of an overhaul for the iMac in respect of form factor and features.
 
Car manufacturers don't need to re-invent the wheel in order to keep selling cars.

Precisely - unfortunately for Apple (and, to a certain extent a problem of their own making due to the hyperbole of their own marketing) people seem to think every product release should be an amazing innovation and when it's not express disproportionate disappointment. An example is the iPhone 4S, a perfectly good upgrade from the iPhone 4, nothing spectacular but still had some welcome additional new features but the widespread howls of disappointment were deafening.
 
in Apple terminology everything is amazing, innovating and magical.. probably even the Mac Pro update they just did :D So, depends on how you look at it.

Most people will be happy with a tinyy specbumped iMac, as long as something happens.
 
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Option for a wireless numeric keyboard, something that should have been done ages ago.

I will add more as I think of it.

I may be wrong so don't hold me to account on this one but when I was looking at buying one the other day it had the option to change to a numeric keyboard when you was on the customise page?
 
I may be wrong so don't hold me to account on this one but when I was looking at buying one the other day it had the option to change to a numeric keyboard when you was on the customise page?

The option for a wired numeric keypad keyboard has always been available, however wirelessly there is only the option without the numeric keypad.
 
The option for a wired numeric keypad keyboard has always been available, however wirelessly there is only the option without the numeric keypad.

Oh that makes sense I suppose (well it doesn't, I mean it makes sense that I read it wrong.) The missing numeric keyboard isn't a huge deal for me but it's annoying
 
Oh that makes sense I suppose (well it doesn't, I mean it makes sense that I read it wrong.) The missing numeric keyboard isn't a huge deal for me but it's annoying

Keypad or not, I'd like to see a lighted wireless keyboard. Might be too hard on batteries though.
 
Keypad or not, I'd like to see a lighted wireless keyboard. Might be too hard on batteries though.

Yes, but this IS Apple we're talking about. They could put a photo-sensor in the keyboard that drove the lights inversely proportional to ambient lighting, and/or put a physical or software switch to enable the user to disable the lighting if desired. Lighting around my Mac is not the best, and I can't see the keys as well as I'd like to oftentimes. I touch-type, but for function keys, media control keys, etc. the lighted keyboard would be AWESOME.
 
Yes, but this IS Apple we're talking about. They could put a photo-sensor in the keyboard that drove the lights inversely proportional to ambient lighting, and/or put a physical or software switch to enable the user to disable the lighting if desired. Lighting around my Mac is not the best, and I can't see the keys as well as I'd like to oftentimes. I touch-type, but for function keys, media control keys, etc. the lighted keyboard would be AWESOME.

It's all sounding a tad "pimp my PC"
 
Things are really slow at work at the moment. I'm betting the new iMac will be released just after I'm made redundant!
I'm still thinking 24th with ML. Will just be a speed bump with USB 3 and maybe a standard SSD or bigger hard drive.
If you want the big design change with Retina and form change you will have to wait for the 2013 which will be released at WWDC along with the new Tabby Cat OS.
 
Definitely could be but don't hold your breath.


Ok....Phew....nearly ran out of breath.

I am very confused, why, on Amazon, market place sellers would sell a brand new imac for more than the Apple price (2.7GHz i5 / 27"). Do people really buy at more than the Apple price or the Amazon price?

Seems weird.
 
Today's a tuesday :)

(I know, almost 0% chance of a new iMac today but we can dream can't we?)
 
If new iMacs were imminent, they would have been announced at WWDC.

Even a minor speed bump would now seem several months away at the earliest.
 
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