Completely agree.
I said it in a post earlier, i would rather have a more powerful system than a slimmer case (desktop class GPU).
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Completely agree.
I said it in a post earlier, i would rather have a more powerful system than a slimmer case (desktop class GPU).
The view I happen to agree with is that if there were a major chassis redesign, we should have seen part leaks by now.
i agree, but were there any parts in 2009? or in macbook pro uni redesign in 2008? if anyone can remember...
Two months before the late 2009 iMac:
https://www.macrumors.com/2009/08/07/next-generation-imac-to-offer-two-compelling-new-features/
And then 3 weeks before:
https://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/24/next-generation-imacs-already-in-production/
No pictures of parts, but strong indications of redesign.
Earliest reference to unibody MBP:
https://www.macrumors.com/2008/09/22/macbook-brick-codename-speculation/
Parts pics were actually only a couple weeks before release.
Good to see this "in writing".. hopefully Apple already has what they need for GPUs and there's no other potential roadblock.
My early 2008 MBP is taking a dump. I am maxed out on RAM and I just need more power. Im definitely getting an iMac, but I am ready to buy now. Just waiting for the new ones next month to see if the internals change at all? I want it to be easier to swap in a 3rd party SSD. Right now, you have to take the whole damn thing apart and possibly use double sided tape. I'd like to see if they make it Plug and play... Plus, if I don't like the upgrade, I can just get the mid 2011 model at a discount
It's a Mac, not a PC. They would never make it easy to install an SSD in an iMac. Not intentionally.
Considering this, does anyone remember the time difference between the availability date of the last processors and the release of the last iMac?
Doesn't Apple get shipments of the processors early sometimes?
I don't understand all of the arguements against a touch display for the iMac. The only one that makes sense to me is that it is a business decision for Apple to make based on the prospective market. For those of you saying that a large touch screen would cause fatigue I argue that a mouse and keyboard is far worse for you than any touch display could ever be. I have two friends that are graphic/web designers in their 20s with carpel tunnel already. I am a plumber by day and an audio engineer by night. In my day job I hold heavy tools and supplies at arms length all day long. At first it takes a toll on your body but you build up the stamina to withstand over time. Same would go for a touch screen iMac, in any position.
I would expect many of you are creative professionals. Have you seen this product? http://www.wacom.com/en/Products/Cintiq/Cintiq24HD.aspx
If they can make money for the niche market, surely Apple can incorporate it into their already great product and profit from it.
Also, with Apple's commitment to those with disabilities ( http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ ), I am surprised they have not already made the iMac with a touch screen already. There are many instances where motor challenged individuals greatly benefit from the accessibility that a touch screen provides.
Just because EVERYONE won't benefit from a touch screen does not mean that there are not those who can. It all depends if Apple thinks they can do it cost efficiently.
EDIT: Typos all over! Sorry, originally typed on my iPad.
I would expect many of you are creative professionals. Have you seen this product? http://www.wacom.com/en/Products/Cintiq/Cintiq24HD.aspx
If they can make money for the niche market, surely Apple can incorporate it into their already great product and profit from it.
Also, with Apple's commitment to those with disabilities ( http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ ), I am surprised they have not already made the iMac with a touch screen already. There are many instances where motor challenged individuals greatly benefit from the accessibility that a touch screen provides.
Just because EVERYONE won't benefit from a touch screen does not mean that there are not those who can. It all depends if Apple thinks they can do it cost efficiently.
EDIT: Typos all over! Sorry, originally typed on my iPad.
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In addition to the ergonomic considerations (which you're welcome to disagree with), consider that a UI designed for a pointer device with 2 buttons (or easy emulation of that) doesn't translate well into Touch. You'd need more iOS-like controls, not just from OS X but from each of the applications, for a touchscreen to make sense.
Apple got an early shipment of a motherboard chipset last year. I don't think there's a recorded instance of an early shipment of CPUs. Of course, I'm taking "early" to mean "before the street date". If the CPUs are on sale at retail chains, then certainly there's some for OEMs to start making computers out of too.
Some fun with Wikipedia/Google:
Sandy Bridge
Intel - January 2011
iMac - May 2011
Nehalem/ClarkDale
Intel - January 2010
iMac - July 2010
Nehalem/Lynnfield
Intel - September 2009
iMac - October 2009
Core/Wolfdale
Intel - March 2009
iMac - March 2009
Core/Penryn
Intel - April 2008
iMac - April 2008
Core/Merom
Intel - May 2007
iMac - August 2007
(and that's as far back as I'm willing to go
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Normally when you add resolution, the interface elements gets smaller. The idea with Retina is that you double the screen resolution and double the resolution of the interface elements so that everything remains the same size, but has more clarity and detail.
Apple could do the same with 1.5x or some other number, but the presence of the HiDPI images suggest going with 2x, which is easier for developers to update to.
https://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/2...-processors-reportedly-launching-on-april-29/
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2012/03/first-ivy-bridge-based-macs-could-launch-in-late-april.ars
Just saw these posted today, looks promising, so I guess were looking at april 29 - may 2 depending on when apple gets their hands on ivy bridge
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2012/03/first-ivy-bridge-based-macs-could-launch-in-late-april.ars
Just saw these posted today, looks promising, so I guess were looking at april 29 - may 2 depending on when apple gets their hands on ivy bridge
This is good news. I can't wait to see if there will be a redesign on the iMac or if it's just a spec bump. Either way, i'm getting one this summer / fall.
Hi there everyone,
I don't get why everyone thinks the release date of Ivy Bridge has anything at all to do with the iMac release. We already know that the Ivy Bridge architecture has little to no benefit to processing power over Sandy. Where the chip shines is the builtin graphic but for an iMac that chip is basically irrelevant.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Apple isn't going to release a product if it doesn't do anything really better/faster than the previous version. (Except it's a redesign) Just look at the current iMac site on Apple's homepage. I don't think it says the new iMac is just a little faster than the last one, if you know what I mean.
The parts we should all be hyped up about are the new mobile GPU's from AMD. Does anybody have any info or guess when those will be released because I think those will be the most important parts in the refresh.
I don't get why everyone thinks the release date of Ivy Bridge has anything at all to do with the iMac release. We already know that the Ivy Bridge architecture has little to no benefit to processing power over Sandy. Where the chip shines is the builtin graphic but for an iMac that chip is basically irrelevant.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Apple isn't going to release a product if it doesn't do anything really better/faster than the previous version. (Except it's a redesign) Just look at the current iMac site on Apple's homepage. I don't think it says the new iMac is just a little faster than the last one, if you know what I mean.
The parts we should all be hyped up about are the new mobile GPU's from AMD. Does anybody have any info or guess when those will be released because I think those will be the most important parts in the refresh.
AMD's 7xxxm is already out.
Ivy Bridge was probably the last holdup (and wanted for USB 3 if no other reason).
Alright, well maybe I'm blind but AMD doesn't have anything on their site regarding the 7xxxM GPU's. They recently refreshed their desktop graphics though, so I'm a bit confused.
Yup, apple will refresh, its just going to happen, period. Its over due for a refresh and apple sticks pretty tightly to these, no later than may. According to buyers guide we are at day 321, apple usually doesn't let it go longer than 309 days. Apple has often in the past waited for intel before releasing updates
.Top of the line mobility radeon is the hd 7600m... I think that would be a step back from the 6970m you can find in today's imacs. I hope they make the jump to the desktop radeons.
Why do you expect the HD 6970m to outperform the HD 7600m?
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Note that as mentioned elsewhere, you'd need a major chassis redesign to be able to stuff a desktop chip in there.
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Also note that until nVidia got a chip off the press a couple weeks ago, the 7600m was holding the overall mobile performance crown.
Okaaaay, thanks for the link
seems like those sneaky bastards haven't updated their European sites. Still those ain't the new 28nm chips as far as i know but i could be mistaken. I just think Apple needs as much power as they can get before release, because without slogans like 3 times more powerful graphics or any superlatives, they won't sell as much and they know that. Especially if they cancel the Mac Pro line.Well maybe that's just how I think. Either way I'll buy a new 27" iMac in June since my 15" mid2007 Macbook Pro is getting kind of slow especially when I'm watching high-def internet videos.
I do expect the 6970m to outperform the 7600m because 7600m is just a revamped 6770m.
If we look at AMD site we can see the specs of both 7600m & 6900m:
6900m:
TeraScale 2 Unified Processing Architecture
960 Stream Processing Units
48 Texture Units
128 Z/Stencil ROP Units
32 Color ROP Units
7600m:
TeraScale 2 Unified Processing Architecture
480 Stream Processing Units
24 Texture Units
32 Z/Stencil ROP Units
8 Color ROP Units
Look also at a site like notebookcheck.net which lists all mobile graphics cards:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html
6970 is number 26 in the list while 7690 is number 70 in the list.
7000M series doesn't have any technology change over the 6000M series, they are in fact still using the same 40nm process while in the desktop line they have moved to the 28nm process.
The thing about the chassis redesign... that's something that could be possible with a design refresh. 6970M has a TDP of 100W while the desktop 7850 (which is faaaster) has a TDP of 130W. Only 30% more power... considering the shrink in technology of ivy bridge and the possibility of the removal of the ODD and even the standard use of SDDs... It is very possible.
radeon 7700m (macbook pros) and 7900m (imacs) arent out yet
those should bring 50% power boost over previous generation with 10 watts less tdp
if you're interested, this forum sums all the rumors
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...pu-info-thread-6xxm-7xxxm-discussions-14.html
7600m and below, previously mentioned, are just rebrands of 6xxxm, not the new GCN 28nm we're waiting for
those should bring 50% power boost over previous generation with 10 watts less tdp
if you're interested, this forum sums all the rumors
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...pu-info-thread-6xxm-7xxxm-discussions-14.html
7600m and below, previously mentioned, are just rebrands of 6xxxm, not the new GCN 28nm we're waiting for