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Same here. In case AI will be all over the place, I will definitely speed up my digital detox.I'm so tired of all this AI BS already...
Not giving in to this hype.
No the real question to ask is will they drop Intel and Rosetta?
How about we just FIX Quicktime first?
You know, so you can save the last window size and settings like loop so when you open the movie it's the same as you saved it. How about fixing what's broken first!
You know, so you can save the last window size and settings like loop so when you open the movie it's the same as you saved it. How about fixing what's broken first!
Really hope they won’t partner with AI companies whose legal basis is dubious like OpenAI’s. It’s bad enough Microsoft is all in on it. I guess this is an example of ”if all your competitors jump off a cliff, will you follow them”.
But there’s still hope they will choose the high road.
If they choose the cliff, I’d vote for macOS Shafter. It’s a real place and accurately describes what the AI features would do.
But there’s still hope they will choose the high road.
If they choose the cliff, I’d vote for macOS Shafter. It’s a real place and accurately describes what the AI features would do.
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When WWDC 2024 takes place in June, Apple will unveil the next-generation version of macOS, macOS 15. While most of what we've heard about upcoming software has been focused on iOS, macOS and iOS often share many features, so we have some idea of what's coming to macOS as well.
AI Features
Apple is working to add a number of AI-centric features to its operating system updates, many of which are likely to be cross-platform.
Siri could benefit the most from AI improvements, and there are rumors suggesting the personal assistant will be better at natural conversation and user personalization, with the new functionality set to be available cross-device.
- AI-generated Apple Music playlists.
- AI-assisted writing in Pages.
- AI-assisted slide deck creation in Keynote.
- AI code writing features in Xcode.
- Siri improvements and deeper integration with Shortcuts.
Apple is specifically working on improved interaction between Siri and the Messages app, so Siri will be able to do things like auto-complete sentences more effectively and follow multi-part, complex commands.
Deeper integration with the Shortcuts app could allow users to automate complex tasks that involve multiple apps.
There is a slim possibility there might be some kind of chatbot based on generative AI, as rumors suggest that Apple is considering partnering with Google or OpenAI to use their large language models, but Apple may also just be planning to use generative AI for system features.
Other New Additions
There are several other features that are rumored to be coming to macOS 15.
- Accessibility - Apple is working on an Adaptive Voice Shortcuts feature for creating a custom phrase and linking an accessibility setting to it, plus there will be an option for organizing Live Speech into user-created categories.
- Freeform - A Scenes feature will let users select specific sections or Scenes within their boards for faster navigation and sharing.
- Maps - The Maps app may gain support for creating custom routes, and it may also be upgraded with topographic maps.
Name
Since 2013, Apple has been using California landmark names for the Mac operating system, and there's no sign that's going to change. Apple has trademarked several names over the last decade, and some of the possibilities that have yet to be used include Redwood, Grizzly, Sequoia, Mammoth, Pacific, Rincon, Farallon, Miramar, Condor, Diablo, and Shasta.
Apple could go with a non-trademarked name, and it has done so several times in the past.
These are the names that Apple has used since it started naming macOS after California landmarks:
- Mavericks
- Yosemite
- El Capitan
- Sierra
- High Sierra
- Mojave
- Catalina
- Big Sur
- Monterey
- Ventura
- Sonoma
Release Date
macOS 15 will be previewed at the WWDC 2024 keynote on Monday, June 10. The first beta will be provided to developers that same day, and a public beta will likely follow in the summer.
macOS 15 will then see a public launch sometime in the fall, either in September or October based on past launch timelines.
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For more on what to expect in macOS 15, check out our macOS 15 roundup, which we will keep up to date both before and after WWDC.
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Every single thing on that list is stuff that I don't care about. I care about stability. I care about a decent system preferences. All the other functionality of needed for a long time is still there and working... In MONTEREY.
Almost don't rely on Apple applications at all. I've never used Apple maps, I don't use Safari, I don't use apple services, I turn on my mac, I turn on Adobe, I use my dropbox, and I shut the computer down when I'm done.
I'm not doing yearly updates I could give a crap what Apple does. Stability is the key.
Some of us have more important needs than what's the latest Prince of features that's going to be broken and needs constant updates anyway. I'll update eventually, either this one or the next whatever works. But that list just doesn't sound awesome.
These yearly updates have to stop it's just ridiculous.
I wouldn't know, I have never used it. Not a single time. Especially since I don't on an iPhone or any of Apple's gear, I simply don't need it and keep it turned off or whatever.
Het siri, **** 😂
I just wish they would do a quality update, fix all the bugs and junk in macOS. I really don’t care about AI anything, when the OS has become an unstable mess. They recently released an update that accidentally removed the print system on a bunch of computers. How does something like that get out the door? There’s no quality control, just a rush to feed the marketing machine.
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AND as long as the system doesn't give continuous notice to switch the AI back on, or to "Finish setting up your device!". (Like they do when iCloud is off.)
Or worse, have the AI switch itself back on after a software update.
It'll be time to drop the code names and focus on bigger issues.
I have an Intel MBP 15" 2018 and Sonoma works quite well, just as the OSs before it. I don't mind staying with Sonoma, if Apple might "think" that Intel Macs cannot run macOS 15, just to make them obsolete. But, if macOS 15 would be allowed on Intel Macs, I'd install the 1st public beta as soon as it's available. 👌
Within year it all hallo around AI will cool down. In some areas as graphics and video it will become normal and boring.I'm so tired of all this AI BS already...
But in some areas it would be great if it persist as computing becomes very complex. Coding is one area.
Other is why I should ask Google how to do something on iPhone/mac. OS should be able to tell me what to do, what settings or how to make multiple step shortcuts to manage task and should be aware of already created shortcuts one can utilize. The same about apps in AppStore so can suggest them to fulfill need.
Last are I find most dangerous and it’s general search. AI models are programmed to return answers certain way. If creator is wrong in its perception answers will be biased. That’s what I saw already.
I'm so tired of all this AI BS already...
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Oh elaborate on this, I would love to hear what that user experience looks like in your head
I don't mind the epic Cali place names that Apple chooses - the problem is when the features are less than epic, it feels like a mismatch.
So I think that if they name the OS after slightly boring suburbs or towns, that would be better.
MacOS Cupertino, Santa Clara, San Hose, Glendale, Santa Ana or something.
With desktop wallpaper featuring strip malls and parking lots etc.
Hmm, thought provoking. I'm not a user of Apple Music, Keynote, Pages, or Freeform. I'll upgrade of course, but will wait for a couple of point revisions unless the AI features turn out to be more impressive than outlined here.
macOS needs a lot more love than a new name and a copilot-like AI thing. Adding some AI would be nice but it’d better have some Apple innovation spice sprinkled on it rather than being a separate window with a text input like Chat GPT, Adobe firefly, Windows Copilot or subscription based service like Samsung’s AI.
- Like how about merging spotlight and siri together, let the user speak whenever they want or type and get text result whenever they want as well.
- I’d love to see a faster, more responsive and smarter spotlight with ability to develop plugins for it like it used to be… like Raycast?
- A complete overhaul of Apple Music and Podcast apps, they’re ridiculously slow and messy. There’s a bug introduced in Catalina where you search for a song, tap to play it in results, tries for a bit then skips to another track. HAPPENS A LOT and only on macOS
- Better cross integration of notes, reminders, calendar and freeform for better productivity, maybe some AI involved to give you a brief overview of today’s tasks?
- Ability to uninstall first party apps like iOS and iPadOS. I don‘t want news, stocks, podcasts, home, chess, …
- Better organization in freeform and feature parity among OSes, I need pen input on macOS and free vector tool on iPadOS
- Window management!
- A redesigned and more useful launchpad, with widgets maybe? Instead of having widgets in notification center
- Notifications sync between devices so I don’t have to clear them on every device
- It’s 2024 and I still have to run mail to fetch new mails and be notified about them while iMessages are received without it needing to be running
- A more powerful shortcuts app with automation features baked for macOS
- A toggle in Settings to reverse green button behavior from fullscreen to maximize (without needing to hold option). Something like fn keys setting
- A proper widget system that is not as dumb as iOS. A calculator widget like good old days
- Better web app integration: make a web app WhatsApp, open a link in a chat and another window pops on with that link. Imaging it’s a YouTube link, you have to accept the pop ups, login to your account again and so on. Just open the link in normal Safari, hmm?
- An extension manager button in Safari without the need of diving deep into the settings to turn on an extension you just installed!
- Bring back the old develop menu in Safari. I don’t like having to open developer settings to toggle CORS restrictions or setting device sizes manually in responsive view
- Better display scaling on 4K screens
- An updated dock with window previews, a music controller for Apple music and other media apps (I know they’re available in right click menu though it’s not that practical)
- Speed and responsiveness improvements before pulling the switch off of old Intel machines (like what High Sierra used to do for vintage machines)
- Like how about merging spotlight and siri together, let the user speak whenever they want or type and get text result whenever they want as well.
- I’d love to see a faster, more responsive and smarter spotlight with ability to develop plugins for it like it used to be… like Raycast?
- A complete overhaul of Apple Music and Podcast apps, they’re ridiculously slow and messy. There’s a bug introduced in Catalina where you search for a song, tap to play it in results, tries for a bit then skips to another track. HAPPENS A LOT and only on macOS
- Better cross integration of notes, reminders, calendar and freeform for better productivity, maybe some AI involved to give you a brief overview of today’s tasks?
- Ability to uninstall first party apps like iOS and iPadOS. I don‘t want news, stocks, podcasts, home, chess, …
- Better organization in freeform and feature parity among OSes, I need pen input on macOS and free vector tool on iPadOS
- Window management!
- A redesigned and more useful launchpad, with widgets maybe? Instead of having widgets in notification center
- Notifications sync between devices so I don’t have to clear them on every device
- It’s 2024 and I still have to run mail to fetch new mails and be notified about them while iMessages are received without it needing to be running
- A more powerful shortcuts app with automation features baked for macOS
- A toggle in Settings to reverse green button behavior from fullscreen to maximize (without needing to hold option). Something like fn keys setting
- A proper widget system that is not as dumb as iOS. A calculator widget like good old days
- Better web app integration: make a web app WhatsApp, open a link in a chat and another window pops on with that link. Imaging it’s a YouTube link, you have to accept the pop ups, login to your account again and so on. Just open the link in normal Safari, hmm?
- An extension manager button in Safari without the need of diving deep into the settings to turn on an extension you just installed!
- Bring back the old develop menu in Safari. I don’t like having to open developer settings to toggle CORS restrictions or setting device sizes manually in responsive view
- Better display scaling on 4K screens
- An updated dock with window previews, a music controller for Apple music and other media apps (I know they’re available in right click menu though it’s not that practical)
- Speed and responsiveness improvements before pulling the switch off of old Intel machines (like what High Sierra used to do for vintage machines)
I could care less about the AI stuff, but if they can make it smart and unobtrusive yet useful they will have nailed what Microsoft has failed to do with Copilot. Copilot is in your face so much that there are even ads for it in the developer tools in the java script console in Edge for crying out loud. Copilot has only made Windows tackier than it used to be. Please Apple, no AI buttons on the keyboard.
Apple should focus on something useful and if they want to steal from Windows then steal Snap. That is the only thing in the Windows UI that beats the Mac.
The places where MacOS could use updating are (to me) 1) The new settings app needs improvements, 2) multitasking apps could use a feature like Snap from Windows, 3) if they do anything with AI tie it into Spotlight and keep it unobtrusive.
Apple should focus on something useful and if they want to steal from Windows then steal Snap. That is the only thing in the Windows UI that beats the Mac.
The places where MacOS could use updating are (to me) 1) The new settings app needs improvements, 2) multitasking apps could use a feature like Snap from Windows, 3) if they do anything with AI tie it into Spotlight and keep it unobtrusive.
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I fully expect Apple to deprecate macOS and release iPad OS for mac. They have been moving that way for years.
For example, why can't I change the size of certain windows under macOS? Why are certain window size and position not remembered like they used to be?
For example, why can't I change the size of certain windows under macOS? Why are certain window size and position not remembered like they used to be?
Nothing on that list excites me. How about something simple like networking fixes? Or Bluetooth fixes. Something people will actually use.