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What to Expect From macOS 15

nt5672 said:
For example, why can't I change the size of certain windows under macOS? Why are certain window size and position not remembered like they used to be?
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This has been the case since 1984.
 
Mr.Mozi said:
macOS needs a lot more love than a new name and a copilot-like AI thing. Adding some AI would be nice but it’d better have some Apple innovation spice sprinkled on it rather than being a separate window with a text input like Chat GPT, Adobe firefly, Windows Copilot or subscription based service like Samsung’s AI.
- Like how about merging spotlight and siri together, let the user speak whenever they want or type and get text result whenever they want as well.
- I’d love to see a faster, more responsive and smarter spotlight with ability to develop plugins for it like it used to be… like Raycast?
- A complete overhaul of Apple Music and Podcast apps, they’re ridiculously slow and messy. There’s a bug introduced in Catalina where you search for a song, tap to play it in results, tries for a bit then skips to another track. HAPPENS A LOT and only on macOS
- Better cross integration of notes, reminders, calendar and freeform for better productivity, maybe some AI involved to give you a brief overview of today’s tasks?
- Ability to uninstall first party apps like iOS and iPadOS. I don‘t want news, stocks, podcasts, home, chess, …
- Better organization in freeform and feature parity among OSes, I need pen input on macOS and free vector tool on iPadOS
- Window management!
- A redesigned and more useful launchpad, with widgets maybe? Instead of having widgets in notification center
- Notifications sync between devices so I don’t have to clear them on every device
- It’s 2024 and I still have to run mail to fetch new mails and be notified about them while iMessages are received without it needing to be running
- A more powerful shortcuts app with automation features baked for macOS
- A toggle in Settings to reverse green button behavior from fullscreen to maximize (without needing to hold option). Something like fn keys setting
- A proper widget system that is not as dumb as iOS. A calculator widget like good old days
- Better web app integration: make a web app WhatsApp, open a link in a chat and another window pops on with that link. Imaging it’s a YouTube link, you have to accept the pop ups, login to your account again and so on. Just open the link in normal Safari, hmm?
- An extension manager button in Safari without the need of diving deep into the settings to turn on an extension you just installed!
- Bring back the old develop menu in Safari. I don’t like having to open developer settings to toggle CORS restrictions or setting device sizes manually in responsive view
- Better display scaling on 4K screens
- An updated dock with window previews, a music controller for Apple music and other media apps (I know they’re available in right click menu though it’s not that practical)
- Speed and responsiveness improvements before pulling the switch off of old Intel machines (like what High Sierra used to do for vintage machines)
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Wow, this is an impressive list of items - congratulations!
In fact, your list is so good and to the point, that macOS 15 will probably not address anyone of them.
Unless, of course, Apple would have totally changed their approach of an OS upgrade.
 
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coffeemilktea said:
AI-assisted writing in Pages sounds interesting: now instead of spending all of 5 seconds thinking of what to write in MacRumors comments or tweeting every random thought in my head on social media, I can get SiriGPT to do it for me. 🤪

But AI code writing in Xcode? As if Xcode doesn't run slow enough on my old iMac even without an AI making Clippy-esque suggestions every so often. 😭
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Sure, because learning English Grammar and sound writing skills is too much for America these days, right? All the assistants for basic stuff one should already have solid footings in basic skills makes everyone a slave to the most mundane tasks. It doesn't make you more productive.

Using AI to solve computational intensive problems is a tool to accelerate your work. Needing a crutch to stand by writing simple thoughts is embarrassing.
 
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nt5672 said:
I fully expect Apple to deprecate macOS and release iPad OS for mac. They have been moving that way for years.

For example, why can't I change the size of certain windows under macOS? Why are certain window size and position not remembered like they used to be?
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If they deprecate macOS I will probably switch to Linux.
 
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To move to AI is much easier with Intel, or with AMD, rather than with your own ARM chips. Most of the computers in the world runs either Intel or AMD. Since Apple "dropped" Intel, (not to mention AMD) Intel (and AMD) had gone so far forward with their chips. After this "adventure" with ARM chips, Apple might come back...👌
 
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seek3r said:
While I wouldnt be shocked if it did I’m expecting 1 or 2 more years, they sold the 2019 Mac Pro through last year, so I suspect we’ll get at least 1 more year of Intel for it (and likely the other 2019 and 2020 last gen Intel machines, if they’re keeping Intel support anyway) to mollify folks who picked up a 7,1 last year
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After the PPC to Intel transition - which was completed in mid-2006 - Apple dropped PPC support with Snow Leopard, released in mid 2009. So, 3 years support in that case.

On the other hand, the whole PPC to Intel transition was done and dusted in about a year - so even the big-selling PPC PowerBooks only got 3 and-a-bit years of "new release" support... and back then, it was 18 months to 2 years between releases, so the last PPCs only saw one new, compatible OS release.

C.f. today where what are probably the biggest sellers - the MacBook Air and entry-level MBP - switched 4 years ago and the M1 14/16" MacBook Pros (probably the real "flagship") will have been on Apple Silicon for 3 years by the next MacOS release... and their Intel predecessors have already had about 3 new MacOS versions. It's really only the Intel Mac Pro and the higher-end Intel Minis that lingered on until 2023.

While Apple would be in hot water if they dropped support and critical updates for your less-than-5-year-old computer, that doesn't mean they have to support it with new releases. Sonoma will get updates for a couple of years yet.

It's probable that many/most of the shiny new features in MacOS 15 will require Apple Silicon anyway - so there may not be a great incentive for Intel users to upgrade. Frankly, it would make more sense for Apple to make Sonoma a "long-term support" version and drop Intel support from 15. I suspect many owners of older Macs (and not just ones with Intel) would welcome the stability that provided.
 
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For people wishing other OS's would run on their devices, Apple makes sure you can't cross the line between iOS (cellular devices), iPadOS (tablets), tvOS (24/7 HDMI HDCP), and MacOS (multiple user desktop UNIX). Every OS they sell has limitations. ;)
 
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loby said:
My guess is macOS Sequoia

Though adding “a little” AI into the OS, my guess that if Apple is going to use Mammoth, than it would probably be 2025’s update that may include more developed AI and probably a conversion to a total iOS interface.

Not a fan of macOS becoming more like iOS, but that is what it looks like the direction of macOS for the future.

I prefer the separate OS concept for macOS where you have the ability to customize and configure etc., but like the world’s movement to “do everything for me without any effort from me” type of life, I see the trend with AI and the OS’s too.

MacOS Mammoth is probably reserved for a very “big” change. What is currently rumored about macOS seems like “minor” updates still.
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Looking at what some other had to say, as either name sounds likely. BGR had some comments about this.
It’s always hard to predict what Apple will call its latest macOS version. Rumors have previously suggested Apple was planning to call a future macOS Mammoth, as the Cupertino firm had asked for a trademark extension of this name in 2021.
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Mammoth was rumored for 2021 when Apple unveiled Monterey and again rumored in 2022. For 2024, currently, it’s unclear what Apple will call macOS 15. Internally, this software is known as Glow.
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Glow can be defined as "To have a bright, warm, usually reddish color"

That is suggestive of Sequoia for the naming. Now we had that nice dynamic screen saver of the Sonoma vineyard flyby. Probably something like below is what Apple might use for a MacOS Sequoia screen saver.

 
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MacRumors said:


When WWDC 2024 takes place in June, Apple will unveil the next-generation version of macOS, macOS 15. While most of what we've heard about upcoming software has been focused on iOS, macOS and iOS often share many features, so we have some idea of what's coming to macOS as well.

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AI Features

Apple is working to add a number of AI-centric features to its operating system updates, many of which are likely to be cross-platform.
  • AI-generated Apple Music playlists.
  • AI-assisted writing in Pages.
  • AI-assisted slide deck creation in Keynote.
  • AI code writing features in Xcode.
  • Siri improvements and deeper integration with Shortcuts.
Siri could benefit the most from AI improvements, and there are rumors suggesting the personal assistant will be better at natural conversation and user personalization, with the new functionality set to be available cross-device.

Apple is specifically working on improved interaction between Siri and the Messages app, so Siri will be able to do things like auto-complete sentences more effectively and follow multi-part, complex commands.

Deeper integration with the Shortcuts app could allow users to automate complex tasks that involve multiple apps.

There is a slim possibility there might be some kind of chatbot based on generative AI, as rumors suggest that Apple is considering partnering with Google or OpenAI to use their large language models, but Apple may also just be planning to use generative AI for system features.

Other New Additions

There are several other features that are rumored to be coming to macOS 15.
  • Accessibility - Apple is working on an Adaptive Voice Shortcuts feature for creating a custom phrase and linking an accessibility setting to it, plus there will be an option for organizing Live Speech into user-created categories.
  • Freeform - A Scenes feature will let users select specific sections or Scenes within their boards for faster navigation and sharing.
  • Maps - The Maps app may gain support for creating custom routes, and it may also be upgraded with topographic maps.

Name

Since 2013, Apple has been using California landmark names for the Mac operating system, and there's no sign that's going to change. Apple has trademarked several names over the last decade, and some of the possibilities that have yet to be used include Redwood, Grizzly, Sequoia, Mammoth, Pacific, Rincon, Farallon, Miramar, Condor, Diablo, and Shasta.

Apple could go with a non-trademarked name, and it has done so several times in the past.

These are the names that Apple has used since it started naming macOS after California landmarks:
  • Mavericks
  • Yosemite
  • El Capitan
  • Sierra
  • High Sierra
  • Mojave
  • Catalina
  • Big Sur
  • Monterey
  • Ventura
  • Sonoma

Release Date

macOS 15 will be previewed at the WWDC 2024 keynote on Monday, June 10. The first beta will be provided to developers that same day, and a public beta will likely follow in the summer.

macOS 15 will then see a public launch sometime in the fall, either in September or October based on past launch timelines.

Read More

For more on what to expect in macOS 15, check out our macOS 15 roundup, which we will keep up to date both before and after WWDC.

Article Link: What to Expect From macOS 15
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Apple is completely going the wrong way with AI. Think about it... with every new feature comes a new group of settings and interface items. It's becoming like the tax code. It is really impossible for an ordinary person to know how to do everything - and as time goes on - it is getting a lot worse. The same thing is happening with iOS too.
So, what Apple needs to do is to train an AI on every setting - for not only the OS, but all their Apps too. Then a user could converse with the AI and tell the AI what he wants done. Then the AI could do it for him.
That's the future for Apple. Not just trying to copy ChatGPT or Grammerly. They ought to put the AI as the primary interface to control MacOS and iOS. Now that would take it all back to the roots. I remember opening my MacPlus with external floppy, and seeing a friendly Hello on the screen. Let's go back to that. Steve would be proud.
 
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