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What We Learn From Leopard's Delay
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Could be worse...
At least it's not over 2 years with half the functionality jettisoned, like Vista.
yeah, pretty much
i mean, October is a long ways away....why not July or August.....September?
At least it's not over 2 years with half the functionality jettisoned, like Vista.
Macrumors is the site, Arn is a person
I kind of agree with Multimedia, I learned that I'm getting a quad core, the octo is a piece without an OS that can make full use of it
Like most rumors, only parts of them are true. I suspect either DigiTimes was lucky or only partially right with the October date.
As stated in the other thread, this delay is a Good Thing. We will work with a solid feature-rich Leopard (which is it nowhere near currently) and we know exactly when everything is coming. My iPhone should tie me over in June. I'll be okay.
As stated in the other thread, this delay is a Good Thing. We will work with a solid feature-rich Leopard (which is it nowhere near currently) and we know exactly when everything is coming. My iPhone should tie me over in June. I'll be okay.
You have over 500 posts and you don't know this already?! Tsk tsk
I thought Arn ran the site.
Man I am confused.
Score 1 for DigiTimes--but that feature alone, Vista support, seems unlikely to be worth delaying Apple's OWN OS for. It's more complictated than that I think.
We may know soon, though, since the dev preview in June is going to be "feature complete".... so they say.
As for the word "integrated," I can't read too much into that. It's a term I might use myself for when Boot Camp "becomes a feature" of Leopard as expected. Integrated can simply mean "part of the package"--it doesn't necessarily imply virtualization, which would be removing the "Boot" from Boot Camp
We may know soon, though, since the dev preview in June is going to be "feature complete".... so they say.
As for the word "integrated," I can't read too much into that. It's a term I might use myself for when Boot Camp "becomes a feature" of Leopard as expected. Integrated can simply mean "part of the package"--it doesn't necessarily imply virtualization, which would be removing the "Boot" from Boot Camp
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For crying out loud, "integrated" just means it'll be shipping with Leopard, as opposed to the publicly separate download available now. Have we not learned to avoid building belief systems off of rumors at this point? Can we not just do what Apple wants us to do--quietly enjoy what we have until they announce something new?
Ya - exactly my point.As for the word "integrated," I can't read too much into that. It's a term I might use myself for when Boot Camp "becomes a feature" of Leopard as expected. Integrated can simply mean "part of the package"--it doesn't necessarily imply virtualization, which would be removing the "Boot" from Boot Camp
Plus, I personally don't think Apple is interested in incorporating Windows any further.
What we learn indeed
We learn that a lot of people on this forum are a bunch of whinny little ...
Apple is becoming Microsoft, OS X is worse than Vista, I hate the iPhone, Apple's loosing it, Apple's lying, Apple is being hypocritical, Apple doesn't care about computers, Apple's trying to do too many things, Apple sucks, Apple doesn't care about my feelings, ect. You're all a bunch of drama queens.
Have drink, smoke some weed, whatever, just relax. Patience.
We learn that a lot of people on this forum are a bunch of whinny little ...
Apple is becoming Microsoft, OS X is worse than Vista, I hate the iPhone, Apple's loosing it, Apple's lying, Apple is being hypocritical, Apple doesn't care about computers, Apple's trying to do too many things, Apple sucks, Apple doesn't care about my feelings, ect. You're all a bunch of drama queens.
Have drink, smoke some weed, whatever, just relax. Patience.
Getting Ready to...
Take over the world. When bootcamp can boot with total ease, then more and more people will continue to switch. I think this is brilliant, and Microsoft's downfall, with the combination of all of this, and Google's web-based... everything, Apple may emerge as the victorious (in terms of sales and usership) out of all. Glory.
MK
Take over the world. When bootcamp can boot with total ease, then more and more people will continue to switch. I think this is brilliant, and Microsoft's downfall, with the combination of all of this, and Google's web-based... everything, Apple may emerge as the victorious (in terms of sales and usership) out of all. Glory.
MK
Hahaha, My sentiments exactly. This is not the beginning of the end for Apple... it's just another day.
Hahaha. Well stated.
Didn't Jaguar/Panther and/or Tiger ship early? I thought one of them did, which means to bring balance back to the OSX release universe we need a late release of Leopard
Or at least that makes me feel better about having to wait until October. Plus Tiger is running perfect for me on both a G5 and Core Duo so I'm in no hurry to upgrade.I learned that Apple is not willing to rush their OS out just to meet a deadline that they put on themselves at the sacrifice of the features they want in it and the bugs they want to exclude (unlike Vista).
And how do we know that?
I am very disappointed as this is more than Leopard, but everything that relies on Leopard...it's going to be a very long summer
And how do we know that?
I am very disappointed as this is more than Leopard, but everything that relies on Leopard...it's going to be a very long summer
my thoughts exacxtly.
What I learned?
That Apple is indeed shifting their priorities around and it's becoming more of a consumer electronic company to cater the mainstream public and neglecting their real business, Macs & software.
I knew that dropping "Computer" from their name would have such consequences. They didn't do it just 'cause it was nice'n short.
That Apple is indeed shifting their priorities around and it's becoming more of a consumer electronic company to cater the mainstream public and neglecting their real business, Macs & software.
I knew that dropping "Computer" from their name would have such consequences. They didn't do it just 'cause it was nice'n short.
January 15, 2008 SteveNote Should Be A Doozy
Wonder what the impact this delay will have on Adobe's Master Collection due to ship in July.
Which means MacWorld Expo January 15-18 '08 will be Leopard's applications' real premiere. So it's the January 15, 2008 SteveNote countdown already.
Wonder what the impact this delay will have on Adobe's Master Collection due to ship in July.
As a geezer who went to college at a time when the Apple Macintosh was the latest and greatest technology, my only problem with the delay for Leopard is:
a) Apple's arrogance at making fun of Vista. If you can't mind your own house first, then don't try to knock the foundation from out beneath someone else's home.
b) Why should I buy that shiny new iMac I so desperately covet right now when it's clear that the one I really want won't materialize until October? I read several postings on this site today and yesterday indicating that people like me are a "bore" for raising legitimate questions, but how else does Apple learn? (I just can't bring myself to feel guilty because Jobs is a BILLIONAIRE and one of the richest people on the planet. Boo-hoo! that he chose the iPhone over the Macintosh, but he did the same trick back in the day between the Macintosh team and the Lisa people, but I guess it's only malcontents who remember that story.)
I choose to spend my money wisely. I have paid thousands of dollars over the years to enjoy Apple products, most of which have failed for reasons unknown to me. Only a couple of which were through my own clumsiness.
That doesn't mean that I can't ask an honest question about my next Apple purchase.
a) Apple's arrogance at making fun of Vista. If you can't mind your own house first, then don't try to knock the foundation from out beneath someone else's home.
b) Why should I buy that shiny new iMac I so desperately covet right now when it's clear that the one I really want won't materialize until October? I read several postings on this site today and yesterday indicating that people like me are a "bore" for raising legitimate questions, but how else does Apple learn? (I just can't bring myself to feel guilty because Jobs is a BILLIONAIRE and one of the richest people on the planet. Boo-hoo! that he chose the iPhone over the Macintosh, but he did the same trick back in the day between the Macintosh team and the Lisa people, but I guess it's only malcontents who remember that story.)
I choose to spend my money wisely. I have paid thousands of dollars over the years to enjoy Apple products, most of which have failed for reasons unknown to me. Only a couple of which were through my own clumsiness.
That doesn't mean that I can't ask an honest question about my next Apple purchase.
Hahaha. Well stated.
Didn't Jaguar/Panther and/or Tiger ship early? I thought one of them did, which means to bring balance back to the OSX release universe we need a late release of Leopard
I learned that Apple is not willing to rush their OS out just to meet a deadline that they put on themselves at the sacrifice of the features they want in it and the bugs they want to exclude (unlike Vista).
If you find the delay of Leopard funny, then you probably don't remember how unfunny many of us found the premature launch of OS X to be. OS X was not ready for primetime in many of the ways that Vista is not ready for primetime.
I'm okay with Gates being less than honest for a lot of reasons that I hope you already understand. By the same logic, Jobs & Co. should be held to a higher standard. It is Jobs, after all, that gave Gates the proverbial keys to the kingdom because he was so afraid of IBM and Xerox PARC didn't understand what it had.
At the same time, the shortcomings of the iPhone are far more compelling than Jobs' rationale for pulling people off of Leopard development. C'mon. You could drive a truck through these holes.
Does Apple really need 1 percent of the cellphone market in lieu of its CORE MARKET? The iPhone is beautiful, but when Jobs throws the Macintosh under the bus for a cellphone, shouldn't we begin to question whether the "emperor" of Apple is wearing the same "clothes" as the emperor of Microsoft? (In other words, they're both naked.)