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What We Learn From Leopard's Delay
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Don't forget we have an Apple event this Sunday at NAB - they'll surely make reference to the delay there.
I'm in the camp that I'm quite happy with Tiger, BUT I'm a bit worried about how the Leopard delay will affect the upgrading of products such as Final Cut Studio.
I was presuming that something like Motion 3 would make heavy use of Core Animation - please don't tell me they'll show off a fantastic new After Effects beater on Sunday, then say it needs Leopard to run and will ship in October!!
I'm in the camp that I'm quite happy with Tiger, BUT I'm a bit worried about how the Leopard delay will affect the upgrading of products such as Final Cut Studio.
I was presuming that something like Motion 3 would make heavy use of Core Animation - please don't tell me they'll show off a fantastic new After Effects beater on Sunday, then say it needs Leopard to run and will ship in October!!
It is a pain to wait, but it gives me more time to save for a MBP and I know that they will have spent time on developing a rock solid product and not shipping something sub-standard.
I don't believe the iPhone or Dual Boot reason, I'd prefer to hear that they are working on new useful features that will make it worth getting Leopard over Vista.
I don't believe the iPhone or Dual Boot reason, I'd prefer to hear that they are working on new useful features that will make it worth getting Leopard over Vista.
Sunday Morning Should Be Very Revealing Regarding 8 Core MP and FCS 6.
Yes, I'm worried about that as well. Moreover, I think the 8 core MP needs Leopard to properly manage all those cores' behavior with one another. This is part of why I imagined the next FCP 6 and Extreeme would need both the 8 core and Leopard to work properly and fully. Wondering now if they can start selling a FCS 6 that will work with 10.4.9 but reveal a bunch of new features once we get Leopard installed.
Arn is right about "integrated"
I reached the same conclusion on the rumour as Arn did (on the same day, too!) I posted this when Boot Camp with Vista support was released:
Another thing I thought of: I don't know DigiTimes too well, but it seems absurd that it would take Apple until October to add Vista support to Boot Camp, and that OS X would be delayed because Boot Camp (which could be update fairly easily) did not include support for Vista. Indeed, many people pointed this out when DigiTimes published the rumour, but I don't think they would be that stupid. So Arn's interpretation of "integration" as some Parallels-like solution is probably fairly accurate.
Whether the rumour is accurate is another matter, but today's news lends it some credence.
I reached the same conclusion on the rumour as Arn did (on the same day, too!) I posted this when Boot Camp with Vista support was released:
Another thing I thought of: I don't know DigiTimes too well, but it seems absurd that it would take Apple until October to add Vista support to Boot Camp, and that OS X would be delayed because Boot Camp (which could be update fairly easily) did not include support for Vista. Indeed, many people pointed this out when DigiTimes published the rumour, but I don't think they would be that stupid. So Arn's interpretation of "integration" as some Parallels-like solution is probably fairly accurate.
Whether the rumour is accurate is another matter, but today's news lends it some credence.
Hmmm, as a owner of both Parallels for linux and OS X, I hope this doesn't happen.
you should buy now, with a copy of Tiger, as Tiger is more than capable of being a life saver compared to XP you are running now. But if you want to wait for new hardware, okay, but don't let the OS hold you back.
WINE type?
I think that is close, but I would question whether or not the integration refers to more integration of WINE or a something closer to that. I, personally, think that some type of WINE-like integration is a bad idea, but to me that is more integrated than Boot Camp or Parallels.
I think that is close, but I would question whether or not the integration refers to more integration of WINE or a something closer to that. I, personally, think that some type of WINE-like integration is a bad idea, but to me that is more integrated than Boot Camp or Parallels.
Leopard
Apple now also updated it's Leopard Sneakpeek pages , and replaced all references to "spring 2007" with "October 2007"
Apple now also updated it's Leopard Sneakpeek pages , and replaced all references to "spring 2007" with "October 2007"
Sad for next version of Keynote... and a guess for bootcamp
I am waiting for the next version since january. Powerpoint and the Windows Presentation Framework are closing the gap. They still have a long way to go, but they are getting closer.
As for Bootcamp, my guess is that Apple will keep their word and stay on their Dual Boot approach..... but they will play on words a bit and make it Dual Log. I think we will be able to switch from an OS to the other as we swich dynamically (with cube transition) to another user. No more.
I don't see why they should cut the grass under the feet of the critically acclaimed Parallels. The delay shows engineering resources are too scare to lose brains duplicating things already on the market... and well designed.
I am waiting for the next version since january. Powerpoint and the Windows Presentation Framework are closing the gap. They still have a long way to go, but they are getting closer.
As for Bootcamp, my guess is that Apple will keep their word and stay on their Dual Boot approach..... but they will play on words a bit and make it Dual Log. I think we will be able to switch from an OS to the other as we swich dynamically (with cube transition) to another user. No more.
I don't see why they should cut the grass under the feet of the critically acclaimed Parallels. The delay shows engineering resources are too scare to lose brains duplicating things already on the market... and well designed.
At least we have a more solid time frame now. It always used to be guessing which part of spring Leopard would arrive, now it's just october.
Just thinking here, Vista's SP1 is sheduled to be released around then. Could apple be waiting for a [stable, complete, fast etc.(delete as apprioprate)] version of vista before releasing the ingrated version. Also would the delay , if any, in the release of SP1 delay Leopard further.
This Leopard delay SUCKS in every way. So if it ever really does get released IT WITH IT'S TOP SECRET FEATURES BETTER BE F@#%@ING, TOTALLY, 100% MIND-BLOWING AWSOME.
LEOPARD DELAY =
LEOPARD DELAY =
But after this delay, nothing says that on October 1st Apple won't delay Leopard again.
LEOPARD DELAY =
At least you are calming down
(Would post more smiles to counter the bad but there is a limit of 10 in any one post)Delay is bad but i feel it means we will get a more rounded OS at the end of it, which i am all for.
I agree. They will make up the revenue with the iPhone / Apple TV / iPod / and Software. I originally thought this would happen when the marketshare is over a certain percentage but now is the time with the Vista blunder and the iPhone revenue.
I can still see them selling Mac hardware and open it up to select partners such as HP, Sony, and Dell. Then gradually open it up to anyone. I really don't know how Microsoft will survive at that point. Perhaps it will be a 50 / 50 market with both co-existing.
As much as I'm pissed about the delay, Apple could redeem themselves in my view by doing just that - open OS X to standard PC hardware! That would be awsome SINCE APPLE STILL REFUSES TO MAKE A SUB-$1000 MINITOWER.
For that to happen i think there would be an even longer delay (read 1-2 years)
What if apple released a sub $1000 minitower? Would you still want generic OS X?
Well Apple, was about to buy a computer...now i will just wait.
No way Im buying a computer that doesnt have Leopard preinstalled on it...
So you'll have to wait close to half a year (if its in of oct. vs the june 15th shipd date) to get my money.
As for Windows, if that is a real reason, I can say...Apple, Im buying OSX - not window, or perhaps you didnt notice. If I want windows - that desperately - I will buy it for a PC. But to stop a release based on not supporting an outside O.S. - what a laugh. just integrate it later. (But maybe they feel its best for the marketing ploy to the majority of customers...run everything at once on your new mac...whatever.)
Boo...apple. Just saying you are on track, what a bold face lie. I realize you have a time so that you dont mess up your stocks before they are supposed to mess up...but again, boo.
And yes, ipod is their bread and butter, and now this phone.
No, Im not getting one...and no, the price is not justified, except to those who want to justify it.
Everything adds up nicely and points to this...it was great signs for selling short.
Peace
No way Im buying a computer that doesnt have Leopard preinstalled on it...
So you'll have to wait close to half a year (if its in of oct. vs the june 15th shipd date) to get my money.
As for Windows, if that is a real reason, I can say...Apple, Im buying OSX - not window, or perhaps you didnt notice. If I want windows - that desperately - I will buy it for a PC. But to stop a release based on not supporting an outside O.S. - what a laugh. just integrate it later. (But maybe they feel its best for the marketing ploy to the majority of customers...run everything at once on your new mac...whatever.)
Boo...apple. Just saying you are on track, what a bold face lie. I realize you have a time so that you dont mess up your stocks before they are supposed to mess up...but again, boo.
And yes, ipod is their bread and butter, and now this phone.
No, Im not getting one...and no, the price is not justified, except to those who want to justify it.
Everything adds up nicely and points to this...it was great signs for selling short.
Peace
Interesting, if wild, speculation. Certainly the majority of the donkey work has been done for them by the OSx86 community, and with elite hackers from that community like maxxuss vanishing off the face of the planet, it could be that Apple has hired them and had them beavering away in the lab for the past year working toward certified compatibility with other vendors' hardware...
The problem that exists though is that Apple would need to be very select about the vendors it partners with. Give up the hardware model too much and they'd end up in the same boat as Microsoft, where people berate them a lot of the time because their cheap USB ADSL modem's / dodgy mobo chipset drivers are really badly coded and keep causing crashes.
Not the OS vendor's fault, but that's the way a lot of end users see it. Keeping the hardware locked to partnered vendors would be a decent compromise - although Dell and HP's case design teams should take a leaf or three out of Apple's book
Hello btw - this is my first post (though I've been a murky lurker for a while!)
sorry, apples site says iphone was priority...that is what caused delays across the board. let us repeat like a mantra...iphone.
regardless of the fact that most of us hate it - not the iphone - but that the iphone is now in place of the computer part of apple...its what is going to get them more $$$ faster and more market share, in the phone area at least, quicker. OSX? What is that?
Leopard is the OSX I have been waiting for since OSX was released.
Peace
