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What would I miss going from Mac back to pc?
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I used to love the 12 hr/2 week battery life, small size, MagSafe connector of my MacBook Air.
I live the current iPhone SMS and photos integration.
I hate the macOS file management compared to windows and the cost.
I was at Costco looking at a dell 13" i7 tiny notebook with ssd etc for $650 thinking how I can justify keeping my late 2016 $2799 MacBook Pro.
I live the current iPhone SMS and photos integration.
I hate the macOS file management compared to windows and the cost.
I was at Costco looking at a dell 13" i7 tiny notebook with ssd etc for $650 thinking how I can justify keeping my late 2016 $2799 MacBook Pro.
Microsoft`s Windows of late is now very decent, not perfect mind; I think MS has woken up from it`s long sleep, while Apple and macOS is heading ever closer to hibernation.
As you pretty much said, it`s not possible to have intelligent conversation on this subject here, as anyone who see`s value in the other side of the coin is instantly flashed the "troll" card by the iSheep. Personally I see the good & bad in both OS, What I take away is that one OS is advancing, the other merely marking time. As my computers pay the way, I will always defer to the better OS for my needs, regardless of the provider...
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However you are comparing a $2k to $4k MacBook to a $500 to $1k Lenovo?
The 2015 rMBP was my first Mac, so I've been with Windows my whole life until last November (although the first computers I ever remember using growing up were the Apple computers in my school and library).
I can't tell you what you would miss, but I think I'd miss a lot of things if I switched back.
I work with design and photography applications and the retina displays are really good. Yes, you can find comparable laptop and external displays, but these are still among the best around.
Photoshop is my main photo editing software, which of course works fine on Windows. But now I also use a lot of Photoshop plugins made by third-party developers that aren't available on Windows, and they've become a big part of my editing workflow. Which reminds me, like iOS, there are a lot of developers that make high quality software apps and tools for Mac OS only (and it's the same story for accessories).
Apple makes great software too. Logic & Final Cut Pro in particular are two fantastic programs that I enjoy using and would definitely miss if I went back to Windows.
If you record audio or music, Core Audio's low latency performance still can't be beat by anything Windows offers.
The overall day-to-day experience of the OS is smooth, and software integration is tight. I've had a few bugs, but Time Machine saved me (and it works much better than System Restore).
My MacBook stays at a desk plugged in most of the time, but when I need to be mobile, it's light and portable, battery life is good, and it's well made (looks as new today as it did 13 months ago).
I can't tell you what you would miss, but I think I'd miss a lot of things if I switched back.
I work with design and photography applications and the retina displays are really good. Yes, you can find comparable laptop and external displays, but these are still among the best around.
Photoshop is my main photo editing software, which of course works fine on Windows. But now I also use a lot of Photoshop plugins made by third-party developers that aren't available on Windows, and they've become a big part of my editing workflow. Which reminds me, like iOS, there are a lot of developers that make high quality software apps and tools for Mac OS only (and it's the same story for accessories).
Apple makes great software too. Logic & Final Cut Pro in particular are two fantastic programs that I enjoy using and would definitely miss if I went back to Windows.
If you record audio or music, Core Audio's low latency performance still can't be beat by anything Windows offers.
The overall day-to-day experience of the OS is smooth, and software integration is tight. I've had a few bugs, but Time Machine saved me (and it works much better than System Restore).
My MacBook stays at a desk plugged in most of the time, but when I need to be mobile, it's light and portable, battery life is good, and it's well made (looks as new today as it did 13 months ago).
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Honestly, if you've had "hands on time" with the above systems "all year" your most likely in a better position to tell us what you feel you miss from macOS....
I haven't been switching back and forth between Mac and windows, so it's hard to tell. My last MacBook was in 2012 so my experience with Mac is a bit outdated. So far the MAIN thing i would miss the hell out of would be iCloud. Haven't tried iCloud for windows yet, but it's probably not nearly as good as it is on Mac.
Recent switchers or people that work on both everyday would have more educated opinions on this topic than me. Hence the entire reason for this thread
A coupe of hours of your life to settle, that's about what you will miss.... not much nowadays!
Yes you can, and be haunted by Edge for the entire time you own Windows 10.
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Yes and I take them for what they are..But remember I am comparing the operating systems in my argument for the most part. For the money the Lenovo is nice and if you can tolerate Windows it's a great value. Tolerate is all I can do with Windows. Just not a fan as you can tell. So much so I am willing to spend the money for Apple, which some would say are over priced.
Currently at home, I have an iMac and Windows 10, sitting next to each other. Rather difficult to guide the missus over to the iMac, best to leave that well alone.
Anyway, I like being on the iMac, and being able to receive phone calls, and reply to iMessages on the fly,while I continue to 'work'...
Anyway, I like being on the iMac, and being able to receive phone calls, and reply to iMessages on the fly,while I continue to 'work'...
How?
I've been a windows user since 3.1 and having a Windows 10 water cooled PC setup on my desk, the automatically updated Nvidia driver just screwed up the computer 2 days ago with no display signal to the monitor as soon as Windows boots up. Frankly I am tired of being PC guinea pig. Having had to cash out again and again to re-purchase Windows (Pro version) every time I upgraded components made it not cheaper than investing in an Apple machine either (at least Apple products have resale value)
Immensely enjoying Sierra now, never going back. I only regret not having made the switch sooner.
Biggest thing to miss for me would be Time machine and Mac's simplicity in restoring a system. With Windows, you have to deal with UEFI, NTFS and how a system is made bootable, a real PITA. OSX is so much simpler in that regard.
That's pretty much it.
I switched to Linux.
I'm travelling, so I've gotten to see how more people are reacting to the new machines. Of the three other Mac-only users in my immediate work environment, two are grudgingly using the 2016s, but griping a lot about the problems with them, and one said he'd rather be punched in the face than use the new machine. One of my friends in the area informed me that his die-hard Mac loyalist friend has given up on Apple over this, and it's been pointed out that every Apple design decision of the last few years can be justified with "because **** you, that's why" as a primary motive. (You want to be able to upgrade memory? We'll solder it on, because **** you, that's why. You liked Magsafe? It's gone, because **** you, that's why. Etcetera.)
I miss Textual and MailMate, and I have not found any paint programs that are even moderately tolerable. Darktable seems to me to be much nicer than Photos. So if Aperture were still maintained and all that, sure, I'd be happier with Aperture than I am with the Linux tools. But Apple killed the good tool that actually did the job, and replaced it with a consumer-level toy.
Remember "think different"? I do. Apple doesn't.
After trying the hardware on some of these new premium windows laptops, I'm not so sure about apple being the hardware leader anymore.
Not to be a jerk, but you're just mistaken / overreacting. There is absolutely no comparison. I don't want to go into a big rant about engineering and industrial design, but those other companies are a decade behind Apple's design department. Don't get me wrong – they're still great, well-engineered machines, but it's comparing Toyotas to Porsches.
No one's even in the same category as Apple in hardware.
Oh come on. I would love to hear you get into a long rant about the crappy hardware pc venders put out! I swear no allegiance to any company. I welcome all opinions. I can find common ground with just about anybody.
Maybe you can pick apart premium laptops like the hp spectre and tell me what you don't like about it
Personal experience, I use both Windows and Mac, I very much prefer Mac OSX over Windows for two things, consistency across programs and hardware platforms (iOS) and security.
Windows 10 is a very robust and well designed OS it's just that any regular use of the internet will, not if, cause a virus to infect your computer. With Windows it a a requirement to always keep the latest updates coming (think auto-update feature) and the running virus checker. Some might say to just avoid those sights and suspicious emails, however the reality is the attacks come from even "innocent" and "trusted" sources.
So what will I miss if I dropped OSX? Maybe you should ask, "what will I gain by switching to Windows 10?"
BTW Why is it many of the posters focus on the hardware over the OS? There's some really great Windows devices out there, but if you think you'll get a computer comparable to the MBP or even Air for $500 think again. Are there device choices that equal Apple's products for less? Maybe, but not that much less and that has been debated over and over agian.
So fucus on the OS when you ask the question.
Windows 10 is a very robust and well designed OS it's just that any regular use of the internet will, not if, cause a virus to infect your computer. With Windows it a a requirement to always keep the latest updates coming (think auto-update feature) and the running virus checker. Some might say to just avoid those sights and suspicious emails, however the reality is the attacks come from even "innocent" and "trusted" sources.
So what will I miss if I dropped OSX? Maybe you should ask, "what will I gain by switching to Windows 10?"
BTW Why is it many of the posters focus on the hardware over the OS? There's some really great Windows devices out there, but if you think you'll get a computer comparable to the MBP or even Air for $500 think again. Are there device choices that equal Apple's products for less? Maybe, but not that much less and that has been debated over and over agian.
So fucus on the OS when you ask the question.
I guess compatibility with most of the worlds software without having to load boot camp. Also being in an ecosystem that is supported by many manufacturers with lots of hardware options to choose from. Want the latest specs? You'd definitely have to be on windows for that. Want a solid premium laptop? Windows has some. Want a 2 in 1 convertible experience? Windows has it. Want a tablet with a full operating system? Surface pro has it.
So there's a lot of diversity of both hardware and software and that can be a definite pro. Also a con. Depending on how you look at it. And as far as viruses go, my cyber security buddy suggested simply using windows defender and keeping it up to date while just having general common sense on the internet. Take from that what you will
You just have to look at them. The design is cluttered, garrish, and cheap.
Apple is the only computer company that approaches hardware from a design-first perspective. Their work is in the MoMa. There is no debate about hardware quality. Surely this cannot be news to you. Look at the simplicity and solidity of this machine. It's unbelievable.
Bit disappointed. Was expecting a bit more than "ew. I mean look at that". I know things are subjective but the way you said it made it sound like there were these clear objective...things that could be brought up
When I see this, I don't think "oh godddd look at that ugly cheap thing!" I don't even know how you could unless you were already determined to not like it from the start. But it doesn't matter anyway. This thread is about os. Not hardware. Was just hoping to get your opinion real quick since you chimed in about hardware. Hoping there was something I missed that might be interesting to hear other than "ewww". Especially since there are a variety of designs on pc. Not just this 1 you don't like.
Ah oh well
This specific laptop is one I've used at work for a bit and it's been solid. Doesn't feel cheap to me.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=HUrUdeASLOA