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1. Some would say Copy and Paste itself is very 1990's. If you're relying on Copy and Paste so much that you need a dedicated copy and paste manager, odds are you're doing something wrong. There is definitely a better way.

2. And it is pretty terrible on Android. Also terrible on all of the 3rd party iOS keyboards that have tried to implement it. It was never meant to be used this way.

3. No idea what that means. Notification Center is just fine as it is.
Notifications are much better on iOS. I had to spend 9 days on S8 while insurance was replacing my iPhone X and notifications are annoying, every ****ing fart needs a notification. I stopped caring in few hours.
 
How do you know they aren’t a developer?
He didn't say they weren't a developer, he prefaced his statement with a conditional test.

He's right, though. iOS (and many other) betas are intended for use on development devices, not one's primary devices. If you put a beta on your primary device, you deserve everything that happens to it.

On a recent podcast, someone (I'm thinking it was John Siracusa) pointed out that, sure, you can back up your iOS device before loading a beta... but you can't back up your iCloud account. There's no point-in-time recovery there. If you load an iOS beta on your iPhone/iPad (whether primary or a spare/developer device) and then connect it to your normal AppleID, you run the risk of all sorts of unrecoverable pain (if a broken beta ate your mail, contacts, or photos, say, they could be really gone).
 
13.0 will never be seeded to the public, that is definite as of right now. 13.1.x will be released to the public on the original date for 13.0 (the week of September 16-20).
That would be far too fast for an x.1 release. In the past x.1 betas were released mid-September and official release happens early December.
 
That would be far too fast for an x.1 release. In the past x.1 betas were released mid-September and official release happens early December.
Correct. It would seem that they split some features that aren't quite ready for prime time (or where the integration with the rest of the OS needs too much work) out into a different branch, which still has some developers working on it. Meanwhile the main team can continue on 13, with possibly some integration headaches temporarily removed because of those features getting pushed off. So we'll get concurrent betas, of 13 and 13.1. 13 should release at the usual time, and then 13.1 perhaps a month later.
 
Good post. Everyone knows the point of the beta program is to find bugs but as we get into early September the betas become what is going to ship on these phones. Saying "it's still a beta" is technically true but completely ignores the fact that the prevalence of bugs this late is a bad sign for what is going to be released in a couple weeks (how could it not be?).

iOS 11 was one of the worst software releases I've ever experienced and those beta threads were full of people defending Apple close to public release by saying "Of course there are lots of bugs, it's the beta! Stop complaining!". Then what happened? They released an absolute garbage OS that took months of constant updates to become pleasant to use.
 
13.0 will never be seeded to the public, that is definite as of right now. 13.1.x will be released to the public on the original date for 13.0 (the week of September 16-20).
Perhaps you could explain what makes this so definite?

It seems you’re just repeatedly posting your theory, without any explanation or source. If you’re so certain of this, please take the time to explain it. It doesn’t seem to make sense to anyone else.
 
Perhaps you could explain what makes this so definite?

It seems you’re just repeatedly posting your theory, without any explanation or source. If you’re so certain of this, please take the time to explain it. It doesn’t seem to make sense to anyone else.
And how would advancing to 13.1 help with anything? Whatever they release, just call it 13.0, surely? Or does 13.0 get full up at some point?
 
I think this article is inaccurate. Dynamic wallpapers have been around since iOS 7. Remember the blue ball appearing and disappearing in the background? Those were the Dynamic Backgrounds.

iPhone X added new colors.

Unless this is a Mandella Effect thing and I'm in another dimension.

I think the article is correct. The dynamic wallpaper was different between iPhone 8 & iPhone X. iPhone X introduced the dark background dynamic wallpaper, iPhone 8 was the last of the brightly colored dynamic wallpaper.

The problem is that the 13 beta has broken the dynamic wallpaper so that the bubbles disappear forever and it has an ugly darkened orange filter effect. I'm hoping they bring it back to the brighter colored bubbles. It's ugly right now in iOS 13 beta.
 
Notifications are much better on iOS. I had to spend 9 days on S8 while insurance was replacing my iPhone X and notifications are annoying, every ****ing fart needs a notification. I stopped caring in few hours.
It's Android. You should expect that everything is customizable and notifications are no exception. You can select which apps can display notifications and which ones can't. It's that easy.
 
Perhaps you could explain what makes this so definite?

It seems you’re just repeatedly posting your theory, without any explanation or source. If you’re so certain of this, please take the time to explain it. It doesn’t seem to make sense to anyone else.

Shocking. It doesn't make sense to anyone because it is atypical. It is a disruption in the normal pattern of things, so that makes it completely incomprehensible.

Apple...not me...Apple has today provided every reason to expect what I've said. Instead of acknowledging that, the scared masses need to cling to what is familiar. I really don't care, and have lost interest.
 
It’s funny how people always say “it’s a beta”, then when it’s released how it is, they cry out loud “how dare Apple release an update this bad?”. SMH ‍♂️
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Shocking. It doesn't make sense to anyone because it is atypical. It is a disruption in the normal pattern of things, so that makes it completely incomprehensible.

Apple...not me...Apple has today provided every reason to expect what I've said. Instead of acknowledging that, the scared masses need to cling to what is familiar. I really don't care, and have lost interest.
I also believe that they’ll ship new iPhones with iOS 13 and ask to be updated to 13.1 on launch date. Hell, I even think they’ll flash 13.1 to new iPhones.
 
Shocking. It doesn't make sense to anyone because it is atypical. It is a disruption in the normal pattern of things, so that makes it completely incomprehensible.

Apple...not me...Apple has today provided every reason to expect what I've said. Instead of acknowledging that, the scared masses need to cling to what is familiar. I really don't care, and have lost interest.
Interest or marbles?
 
And they will also have to release 13.1 by launch of new iPhones. How are you supposed to use your 13.1 backup for restoring your new iPhone using 13.0?
 
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Anybody able to confirm these two still work ?

kCGColorSpaceDisplayP3_PQ_EOTF

kCGColorSpaceDisplayP3_HLG

If they are still a Go, wide support for them is the most-important thing Apple is likely to announce on Sept 10th !

Off the Radar of most, but should NOT be !

I don't think so. HDR has been supported since the iPhone X. CG got Rec 2020/HDR support last year. All that's new is Apple coupled Display P3 with HDR, which is arguably non-standard: Display P3 is already a non-standard backwards compatibility compromise as is.
 
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Is “natural” scrolling direction still the only option for mouse support?
Which is the opposite of true “natural” scrolling direction anyway.
Apple should include mouse control panel from macOS to iPadOS at this point.
 
Basically, Apple had features that had to be pulled because it was causing issues in 13.0 and they are testing them in 13.1. Not saying that all this happened Any time after 13.0 was released at WWDC. Just that they made the decision sometime around/before WW and then fixed those issues and are ready to roll out beta of 13.1. It may not even be user facing features. Could be all Developer stuff
 
This isn't unprecedented for iOS, and is a perfectly valid strategy of developing multiple release branches in parallel.

Just like, say, they are also shipping macOS 10.14.6 while also pushing 10.15 Catalina betas. And, you can bet, while also already having 10.16 Death Valley alphas.
It’s unprecedented for them to release a beta of the point release before they even release the GM of the major release.
 
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Nah the guy you quoted has a point. There are a LOT more features in iOS now. I’ve been following iPhone/iOS since 2007 and easily forget what this OS is capable of.

I didn’t know you could move multiple apps at once until a few months ago. There’s a lot of little things now.

I’m not complaining at all, but the gestures and shortcuts amp up every year.

I think the point being made is that all that other stuff is not necessary and does not change how to use the device. It does not get more complicated, it just adds more features. That does not mean you need to use them or learn them....
 
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